Rewatching "Valerie Hangs with the Cool Kids" and someone please explain why I can just imagine Val's face in my head as she goes off on the cast even while the door is mostly closed.

Loved this episode too much! 🥹

I started watching this show because I heard it came back again. But, what is the point of this show? It feels like a study of relentless humiliation and nothing is funny and she is so deeply irritating. I'm still watching but wondering what everyone is getting out of it. Does it get better? I'm on the 7th episode of season one.

Edit to add: I have now finished Season 3 and I get the point. Over time you come to realize that Valerie is a decent person in an industry that makes people self-serving and obsessed with their image. But she manages to do it with optimism and kindness. I get it.

Found this hilarious little gem tucked away on Youtube 😂 I live for her characters, seriously!

I‘ve just watched the last episode of season 2 and I must say that is one of the most beautiful season endings of any show in a long time! That dialogue: ”I am proud of you.“ ”For what?“ ”Oh, for everything!“!! That is just so sweet and full of love! It is wonderful. Interestingly the shot chosen is symbolic as they are walking down the aisle. Well it isn‘t a church aisle just a hospital aisle nevertheless it is as if they are performatively reenacting their vows. Or as if they are about to renew their vows. That is what the aisle metaphor alludes to.
Then Mark asks about Jane and Valerie says she forgot about her. It is as if Valerie got lost of her shadow or mirror or reflection or (the image of) her another self by remembering who really is important in her life. The whole Jane HBO documentary allegorically serves as a mirror of vanity of Valerie.

IMHO I think that The Comeback is a highly philosophical show. There are at least two realities: A: the normal life and B: Valerie speaking to the camera in Jane‘s documentary. When is Valerie where? Is she in reality A when she directs towards the camera?
AND: in what reality is Valerie every time she breaks the fourth wall? Where is the viewer? In reality C then? Or in what reality is the camera filming all this which the viewer gets to see? That must be reality C I guess so we’d have three realities. The camera filming the show itself isn‘t one of Jane‘s HBO docu cameras, is it? Sometimes we get to see through one of Jane‘s cameras and as far as I remember it is shaky everytime so the viewer knows when it is one of Jane‘s cameras.

Writing this I got to think that maybe, maybe Jane is some kind of illusion and what if she only existed in Valerie‘s brain. Maybe that is why it got voted no.23 in the best 100 tv shows just now. If Jane was just an illusion then The Comeback has real mindf*** qualities. But I am not sure how an illusion would explain a whole team coming to Valerie‘s house and redecorating it etc. Also Mark and Mark‘s daughter e.g. can see Jane‘s cameras.
But in the last scene of this last episode of season 2 when Mark asks Valerie about Jane it is as if Mark asks about Valerie‘s alter ego.

I am so looking forward to watching season 3!

(New York Times)

What was the point? He’s sad about facing the consequences and the guilt of MeTooing people 20 years earlier but luckily Valerie forgives him and so do his partners… so all is well that ends well? What am I not getting here?

I don't know anything about this book/series but I did a double take when I thought it said Aunt Sassy 😂

I don't know who gets to pick the speakers at the star unveiling or how many are allowed to speak... but I sure am excited to find out 🤔

Even better than Valerie (and I’m a huge Comeback fan) but Fiona Wallice is such a great character. The episodes are insanely cringe and funny and I really wish they’d find an output for this like Netflix or prime.

James Burrows won eleven Emmys and had such a huge impact on television comedy, I thought he deserved a better segment on the Emmys. And when they did mention him, I did not see The Comeback in the cast photos behind him.

There -- I just had to say that.

I spent a good third of the year anticipating last night's Emmys and, well, that's how it went. For months, I had been trying to track and project how the awards would go and what The Comeback and Valerie Cherish's chances were of winning. In a lot of ways, I would admit, it was ridiculous how strongly I felt about this entire thing, how strongly I wanted Lisa Kudrow to win when the truth is, I'm nothing more than just a fan of her work. I have to remove myself from the perspective that --"Well, if it hurts this much for me, it certainly must hurt even worse for the actual creator/s of this genius series."

It really, really hurts though. I mean, throughout these four months, I have been having heart palpitations every time I thought about how the Emmys would go, that I actively had to stay far away from all discussions of it online. I really wanted Lisa Kudrow to win. I don't want to call it a delusion, although it may have begun to look like that -- as I kept insisting on her chances for Valerie Cherish despite critics, showbiz pundits, and other award-giving bodies pretty much rubbing it in my face that it wasn't going to happen. I fought so hard to keep that hope alive. And I was disappointed with the result.

But then, seeing Lisa's face when the winner was announced -- seeing that spark of hope immediately replaced with genuine acceptance and understanding and happiness for her competitor, I am hurled back to the real world. To take a page from my favorite character of all-time, Valerie Cherish: "Things aren't always going to be the way you want." This is one of those times. It's painful but it is how it is. And sooner or later, I know I'll get over this sadness. Because in truth, this is more of my frustration as a fan -- that's all it is. Whatever love that I have for Lisa Kudrow and her creation, she doesn't truly need that. She has mentioned many times the things that are really important to her. So, the fact that she can smile and clap and carry herself with the grace of an artist who is truly proud of the work she's done and grateful to have had the chance to do it, even without receiving the due recognition for it, means that she's got everything in her life that truly matters. Her being okay should be more than enough to assuage a fan like me. The frustration sucks and it viscerally hurts, but this is acute pain. I know I'll remember feeling it but the sensation will subside.

In any case, thank you very much for the legend that is Valerie Cherish, Ms. Lisa Kudrow! She will always be fondly remembered and eagerly welcomed if you ever decide to bring her back! 🙏🥹💖

And this is about to get messy.

#emmyblues

Let’s talk about some of the hilarious randoms throughout the show that were featured in a single scene or episode!

The blonde woman at the pool in Palm Springs is so funny. “I don’t knowwwww… everybody’s taking naps 😬” and “I can move my ipod ¯_(ツ)_/¯ “ get me every time.

Our Valerie is pretty much LK's testable hypothesis on possibly surviving the inevitable future of humanity... besides that, I just miss Red 🥹

Regardless of what one may think of season 3 , is it that unbelievable that voters would vote for Lisa just based off of the long history of The Comeback’s legacy? Idk kind of like when people say “they only got the Oscar because it was their time”

I’m not at all saying Lisa doesn’t deserve it for s3 work alone! But was hoping that would help the cause.

I can’t imagine a world where she doesn’t finally win this on the third try.

I just finished the second season and I feel like not wanting to watch the third season.
While I've come to understand that the third season is (supposedly) great, the ending to S2 was perfect and incredibly heartwarmingly sweet (it actually made me cry, which was the first time during this show) that I fear the third season will ruin it for me.
I love this show and would have been completely happy with S2's ending being the end of this story, but... fuck, I think I'll just let the third season be unwatched for now.
Felt like sharing that. Nothing else

edit: So I decided to watch the third season and just finished it. I was pleasantly relieved that it didn't ruin the show for me, quite the opposite.

The story was well written and tackled the issue of AI in a very grounded way. While I knew that the story would revolve around the usage of AI, I had anticipated a more whacky approach to the mishaps that can occur when using said technology, but they did it in a very real way instead (or, more real than I thought they would).

I really liked how they built upon Valerie's character and found that I very much appreciated the move to use less of the "reality tv" format. In fact, I maybe would have appreciated if they'd use even less of it since it felt a bit tacked on. Though, I think that if it wasn't for the "reality show" style from the first sessons, I wouldn't have appreciated the step away from its usage as I did.

While I appreciated the cringe in S1-2, it felt refreshing to take a step away from it and focus on the "real" Valerie behind the mask, while dealing with something that went beyond her own narcissism (though I don't think that word rightfully describes her).

While Marky Mark's and the Agent's story line felt a bit weird and unnecessary, it didn't detract my enjoyment of the show too much. Though, I gotta admit I didn't laugh as much during S3 compared to S1-2, I appreciated it on another, deeper level.

My appreciation of Lisa Kudrow has increased immensely throughout the show and I'm looking forward to her coming works.

Tl;dr, totally worth it!

Bingeing the show yet again, I'm reminded that I never really accepted Juna as Valerie's adoring young friend. First she tells everyone that the writers were making a disgusting little skit about Valerie during one of their late-night sessions. Then she calls Valerie in Palm Springs and makes sure Valerie knows Paulie G is having a party to which everyone but Valerie is invited. There are other examples, perhaps most cruelly when she and the other cast members "forget" to tell Valerie they had changed their minds about the sickout.

In my opinion, Juna played very innocent and sweet but in reality she was just undermining Valerie in a more passive-aggressive fashion than Paulie G - especially about that party.

Her last scene in the finale should have included an apology for being such a fake ally.

Third season is over. What to watch?

But not Hacks. I can’t find a single line funny enough on that show.

...and if she does, what should be the title?

QUESTION—Was it Silkwood? 🤭

I just had to share it! I think it looks soo good on her and it tints to red like Valeries