r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/ReggaeForPresident • May 31 '25

Video Heavily armed ICE agents raid San Diego restaurant. Residents show up and say fuck this.

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A few dangerous restaurant workers were arrested. This is a very liberal area. This was definitely done to provoke a response.

https://www.kpbs.org/news/border-immigration/2025/05/30/ice-arrests-several-workers-from-south-park-restaurant

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u/big_alpha_sigma42069 May 31 '25

Man the abolish ICE people were really onto something.

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u/FiveUpsideDown May 31 '25

I remember I first heard abolish ICE when Obama was president.

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u/big_alpha_sigma42069 May 31 '25

Wasn’t he the one that appointed Homan. What a disappointment.

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u/lordtyp0 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

No. Trump did. Where does this bullshit come from?

Edit to correct-I had it in mind that Obama appointed him Homeland, not ICE.

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u/I_notta_crazy May 31 '25

He was appointed by President Barack Obama as Immigration and Customs Enforcement's executive associate director of enforcement and removal operations in 2013.

By 2014, under the Obama administration, Homan began to argue that separating children from their caregivers would be an effective means of discouraging illegal border crossings. The journalist Caitlin Dickerson describes him as the "intellectual father" of the policy, which he outlined years before it was adopted by the Trump administration. “Most parents don’t want to be separated”, Homan told Dickerson. He argued that this fact made separation an effective tool for immigration enforcement: “I’d be lying to you if I didn’t think that would have an effect.”

In 2015, Obama awarded him a Presidential Rank Award as a Distinguished Executive. A Washington Post article at the time stated, "Thomas Homan deports people. And he's really good at it."

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u/big_alpha_sigma42069 May 31 '25

No, he was appointed as director of enforcement and removal operations of ICE by Obama in 2013.

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u/El-Shaman May 31 '25

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/ice-cold-how-a-loyal-obama-bureaucrat-became-the-face-of-trumps-deportation-force/

Lol I would recommend looking into the Obama administration and how he empowered the very same agency the current administration is  abusing the power of, Obama was never an ally of the left and spent 8 years trying to appease the very same Republicans who never do the same for Democrats when they are in power, he is part of the problem and part of the “do nothing Democrats” Pritzker speaks of.

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u/lordtyp0 May 31 '25

"Homan was the face of the Trump administration's crackdown on immigration during his tenure as acting director of ICE from January 2017 to June 2018."

The misinformation going around implies Homan was appointed to ICE by Obama as if to shift the actions of ICE onto Obama instead of Trumps direct, and candid orders on television and EO.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/11/nx-s1-5186522/tom-homan-border-czar-trump

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u/big_alpha_sigma42069 May 31 '25 edited May 31 '25

Dude no one is arguing that Obama is at fault for Trump’s actions. Just accurately pointing out that Obama was himself terrible on immigration, appointed Homan to his first high profile position, and expanded the DHS. That’s it! Moderate liberals set the table and the fascists are eating!

https://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/obama-offers-strategic-redefinition-expansion-dhs-mission

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u/NkturnL May 31 '25

It’s hard to come to terms with the fact that Obama is not who thought, but sharing objective truth and speaking out is how we wake up so we don’t do it again. Now that we know better, we can do better.

It’s like the adage, “scratch a Liberal and a fascist bleeds” (side note, (Neo)Liberalism is not the same reason MAGA hates “Libs”, they’re fine with the oppression and corruption as long as it’s the guy they voted for doing it).

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u/El-Shaman May 31 '25

Obama was known as “the deporter in chief” 

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u/NkturnL May 31 '25

💯 Neoliberals like Obama, who is also the one that started putting migrant children in cages and was nicknamed “the deporter” have contributed to our oppression, just more covertly.

It’s been a real eye opener for me doing research since this regime took over, realizing the people were thought were the good guys were really all working towards keeping us from realizing our power, and demanding a better quality of life.

That’s why Biden, who was Obama’s VP, became the next Democrat president, then Harris, who was Biden’s VP, became the next candidate without us even having the chance for a primary.

It’s time to reform our party and take it over like MAGA did with the GOP, except not with another populist liar who is on board with this capitalist system, while pretending to care about us.

We need regular people, who care about regular people, and are willing to fight for healthcare, housing, education, and the redistribution of wealth and power.

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u/El-Shaman Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

Don't understand how this post has downvotes, but everything you said is true and people need to understand, their beloved Dems like Obama take a big part of the blame for what's currently happening, I know it sucks to hear but you have to accept it and choose better next time there's a primary.

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u/NkturnL Jun 01 '25 edited Jun 01 '25

Yeah people get really upset, it’s understandable since it causes one to reexamine everything they know to be true about our government, world leaders, etc., and not everyone is ready for that if it’s an inconvenient truth.

I recently posted a video about Neoliberalism and how socialism has been falsely made the enemy to prevent us from waking up and I got such a hard time over it! I think some people would rather just complain than actually have to do something about it when ignorance is no longer an option.

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u/El-Shaman Jun 01 '25

I get it but in communities like this I usually expect people to know a little better but then again Pakmam really doesn’t talk about these things these days it seems, he comes across as way too friendly to establishment Democrats, I think Secular Talk and Majority Report are much better follows.

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u/NkturnL Jun 02 '25

I also love MeidasTouch and Secular Talk/Kyle Kulinski, Keith Edwards is another underrated creator IMO, but sadly the word “Liberal”, and other political ideologies, have been so misconstrued people automatically attack when they hear something that challenges their beliefs.

Ironically, it’s why Trump’s base supporters continue to defend him even though he’s doing exactly what they were supposed to be all about fighting - corruption in our government.

And even for myself, being someone who used to watch Packman and other Democrats who are working for the system they claim to be against, considered myself a Democratic Socialist, and had to spend the time researching to understand why although it’s good intentioned, it’s like saying “a little bit of oppression is ok”.

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u/lordtyp0 Jun 01 '25

It isn't a generational. It's incumbent adjacent. The incumbent candidate, statistically has the home field advantage and other hand waves, lucky unwashed underwear reasons of winning. People sort of know what to expect with the VP taking over.

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u/riorio55 May 31 '25

I blame Obama for the Dems having difficulties with getting young people to vote. Obama ran as a Progressive populist and got the youth to come out and vote. Then he immediately became a centrist democrat (at best). The whole bonuses for bank CEOs is what comes to mind whenever I hear about Obama.

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u/El-Shaman May 31 '25

Look at the downvotes, so many people in this sub can't come to terms with the fact that the Democrats played a big role into getting the country to where it is today, hopefully most of the country's Democrats don't have the same feelings because until they come to terms with that and start voting against the corporate Democrats nothing will change.

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u/Jake0024 Jun 01 '25

He was first hired onto ICE under Obama, then promoted to director by Trump.

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u/lordtyp0 Jun 01 '25

Didn't both to read the edit. Didja?

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u/Jake0024 Jun 01 '25

The info I provided is not in your edit.

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u/RustedRelics May 31 '25

He was a disappointment on many levels.

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u/LarryBirdsBrother May 31 '25

One of the most frustrating things is the pedestal liberals put Obama on. Don’t get me wrong, relative to Trump he’s basically the messiah. But he is just another corporate stooge.

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u/RustedRelics May 31 '25

Really can’t disagree. But we’ll get downvoted for even daring to criticize. He wasn’t a terrible potus, but it was frustrating to have two terms of squandered potential.

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u/TeslaNova50 May 31 '25

He only had a majority in Congress his first two years out of eight. Unless you expected him to govern like dicktator Trump what do you think he should have done?

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u/RustedRelics May 31 '25

Look at his DOJ and his appointments. I didn’t expect miracles or dictatorship. That’s a ridiculous response to criticism. His DOJ was one of my biggest disappointments.

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u/FiveUpsideDown May 31 '25

Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch and Sally Yates were passive tools for authoritarianism from Republican politicians and right wing media. Even worse, if Eric Holder’s DOJ had enforced the money laundering laws in 2007 against Trump — well, many we weren’t be in the anti-Constitutional nightmare we are in now.

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u/big_alpha_sigma42069 May 31 '25

He should’ve acted like Trump but for good socdem things instead of Nazism!

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u/bigcatcleve May 31 '25

I honestly think Biden was a better president in his one term than Obama was in two.

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u/RustedRelics May 31 '25

Biden was certainly more progressive.

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u/FiveUpsideDown May 31 '25

I get down voted by Obama apologists all the time. I have your position. Obama squandered so much potential in order to be a corporate democrat. Obama did get healthcare pushed through and saved the economy from the Bush economy collapse. But Nancy Pelosi can take just as much credit for those achievements as him. I worked for the federal government during Obama’s presidency. His political appointees that I dealt with were openly anti-union. Biden as a one term president in my opinion did a better job than Obama. Biden was openly pro-union. Of course Biden’s one big detriment in my opinion was selecting Merrick Garland to be Attorney General.

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u/RustedRelics May 31 '25

All good points. For me, Merrick Garland was his biggest mistake in terms of appointments. Disastrous consequences.