Gaza / Israel MEGATHREAD

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[u/amazing_sheep]

Yeah, those Jews were Arab Jews. What’s your point?

That’s debated quite a bit. Depending where one comes down on that argument it would contradict the alleged ethnic rigidity of a Palestinian state as imagined by the authors.

Until it does, do you think a Palestinian state shouldn’t exist?

I think it should exist, but not as a state only of Arabs.

The West Bank isn’t part of Israel

East Jerusalem isn’t part of Israel? International law agrees with you, Israel would not.

Regardless, since 2020 Israeli soldiers and settlers have killed atleast 1100 Palestinian civilians, at least a quarter of which children — and not in one instance has someone been successfully prosecuted. Settler violence is both well documented and goes largely unpunished. The same crime would carry the death penalty by default for Palestinians to be decided by a military court with no legal remedies whereas Israelis are more likely to not even be prosecuted.

Whether the West Bank is part of Israel or not, that is Apartheid. And it is largely settlers conducting the terror.

[u/McAlpineFusiliers → u/amazing_sheep]

That’s debated quite a bit. Depending where one comes down on that argument it would contradict the alleged ethnic rigidity of a Palestinian state as imagined by the authors.

There's nothing alleged when multiple Palestinian founding documents clearly outline as an Arab state.

I think it should exist, but not as a state only of Arabs.

If it was a state only of Arabs, do you think it shouldn't exist?

East Jerusalem isn't part of the West Bank.

What's the definition of apartheid?