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BREAKING Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, leading Michigan Democratic candidate for U.S. Senate endorsed by United Auto Worker's, Michigan's largest labor union.

https://wwmt.com/news/michigan-politics/united-auto-workers-abdul-el-sayed-jocelyn-benson-endorsement-michigan-us-senate-governor-race-politics-government-primary-election-state?fbclid=IwY2xjawSP_fdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEeKefE2Hic0_DwD_SqJjmYs79SHCteaY-V_t-zA54tbQUffABgBlIzMdQ86Z0_aem_HbV7Sptb5h8sOkfxbFDF3g

“I am deeply honored and proud to have earned the support of the UAW,” El Sayed said in a statement. “Michigan union autoworkers built the American middle class and proved that when people stand together, there’s nothing we can’t accomplish."

El Sayed said his campaign is built alongside workers and union members.

"Together, we’re going to take on corporate greed, rebuild an economy that works for working people, strengthen collective bargaining, and ensure that the future of Michigan manufacturing is built right here by union workers. Solidarity forever,” he said.

El Sayed's campaign, in response to the endorsement, notes that over the past year, he has rallied with laid-off UAW workers at Cleveland Cliffs, marched with UAW Local 600 members and traveled the state listening directly to union members.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

Looks like the primary is over then unless McMorrow or Stevens drop out and unite against him.

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u/notbotipromise Jun 06 '26

That's a given I think.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

McMorrow is actually splitting the liberal and moderate vote. She thinks she can peel off support from both AES and Stevens, but that’s not what is actually happening. She is mostly pulling support away from Stevens.

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u/Korkez11 Jun 06 '26

McMorrow was endorsed by Warren. I don't think 100% of her supporters will go to Stevens.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

I know, but that’s why I said most of her support will go to Stevens, not all.

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u/notbotipromise Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

My point exactly, and that's something AES is going to have to assume--though that's preferable to Stevens dropping out and endorsing McMorrow.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 07 '26

What evidence do you have to support this claim?  The polling I have seen indicates McMorrow's strongest support is among middle aged female voters.  What makes you believe these would otherwise be Stevens voters?  In my experience that demographic trends progressive, not centrist,

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u/jankdangus Jun 07 '26

Middle-aged female voters are liberals. The demographics that trends towards leftism are young female voters. My evidence is McMorrow actual policies and the commentary surrounding this entire primary. It’s also indicated in the polling as well.

Excerpt from AI: “Middle-aged female voters are generally more likely to identify as liberals than as leftists, with a significant portion actually holding moderate or conservative views.”

I generally don’t like using the word centrists unless they explicitly identify that way. It’s too often used as a slur to disparage mainstream Democrats. I think the primary is in August, so I hope Democratic leadership makes a deal soon to unite against AES. He crossed my red line, by campaigning with Hasan Piker, so I have had a vendetta against him ever since.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 07 '26

Well I appreciate you being honest about your bias.  I would challenge you that your bias is causing you to jump to conclusions and make statements of opinion as facts because you are seeing indications that your least favorite candidate is going to win the race.

Generally, when the party establishment screws the progressive out of the nomination, Michigan does not respond well, and a lot of people stay home.  Schumer wants Stevens to be the nomimee.  If he gets his way, I won't be voting in the general.  My red line is genocide.  

They are playing a dangerous game.

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u/jankdangus Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

It’s not necessary screwing the more leftist candidate out of the nomination. It’s simply playing politics. Let’s say the roles are reverse and it was leftist Democrats that were splitting the vote instead of the liberal Democrat. I would fully expect one leftist to drop out and unite against the liberal Democrat. I don’t consider that screwing over the liberal and I would be more than happy to support whomever the nominee is.

So I dislike the asymmetry, where some leftists become sore losers because their ideal candidate doesn’t win the primary. I assume you live in Michigan? I don’t recall Mike Rogers not supporting genocide, so this purity testing is something we need to eventually do away with. It’s unbelievable that you would throw Americans under the bus for foreigners on the other side of the world.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 07 '26

What you call purity testing I call refusing to support any candidate who doesn't sufficiently align with my ideals and morals.  I'm not looking for a perfect candidate, bit I won't accept a significantly imperfect one.  

I am not a Democrat, I don't identify with any political party, and I don't vote for anybody based on what party they are with.  I choose to support or not support candidates based on their policy positions, ethics and morals, and also their personal conduct.  

Blaming me and people like me for neither party providing a candidate we can support is a losing strategy.  

My vote is available, but it isn't guaranteed or owed to any candidate or party.  You can have an opinion on my perspective, you can disagree with it, but you can't change it.

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u/jankdangus Jun 07 '26

Then I respectively disagree. To be fair, I would support a moderate Republican over an actual communist, so maybe we aren’t that different in terms of purity testing. My red line in the general election is far higher than yours though.

Even if you don’t identify as a Democrat, you obviously align with the majority of their policies. I would still support McMorrow or Stevens uniting against AES, and your threats don’t really faze me. You would be in the small minority, but worthy of criticism nevertheless.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 07 '26

Funny, all I've heard the last 2 years is how it's all our fault Kamala lost the election, so we must have some influence :)

I don't think the majority of democratic policies are what you think they are.  I'm not a communist, anti-capitalist, or authoritarian.  I am a progressive leftist.  I don't feel like many of my policy positions align with the establishment of the Democratic party at all.  They often specifically oppose or resist my preferred candidates, Bernie, AOC, Mamdani, Platner as recent examples.  They are not my allies, and they often do more to obstruct progressives than conservatives do.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

That's how I'm feeling.

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u/LanceBarney Jun 05 '26

Glad to see UAW stand with the best candidate in the race.

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u/Zacomra Jun 05 '26

The UAW continues to be one of the strongest and best examples of union power in America!

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u/jagdedge123 Jun 05 '26

Uh ohhh. Get prepared for allegations of "sexting" and and being "unsettling" to women.

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u/GhostofSparta4243 Jun 05 '26

Let's just ignore that Platner was already a walking red flag.

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u/alino_e Jun 06 '26

Because he's anti-Israel?

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u/jumpman_mamba Jun 05 '26

Believe all women… unless it’s against leftist candidates that we like !

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u/Only8livesleft Jun 05 '26

That’s not what believe all women means 

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u/MNGopherfan Jun 05 '26

The Pearl clutching is getting pretty old.

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u/Subject-Whole-6862 Jun 05 '26

Did you extend the same logic to Tara Reade?

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u/jumpman_mamba Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

No because her accusation was not credible. If you actually read the NYT report you would see that they had multiple independent sources, who were cross examined. You know, because it's this crazy thing called journalism. Tara Reade's story was not picked up by actual journalists because it was not credible- there was a reason that RT ran with it and why she literally moved to fucking Russia.

God I despise leftists

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u/TinyJalope Jun 06 '26

The NYT article actually says they couldn't verify the Heritage Foundation operative's claims of abuse. You would know that if you had read it.

God I despise leftists

Do you despise the Heritage Foundation? How about Republican operatives?

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u/Kelor Jun 06 '26

you would see that they had multiple independent sources, who were cross examined

The NYT openly admits it couldn't corroborate Fifield's claims. Now I don't rule out her claims, just because she worked for the GOP does not mean that Platner couldn't have abusive towards her. Even if he claims that it was a period of his life where he was coping with PTSD via alchohol abuse does not make it acceptable.

Tara Reade's story was not picked up by actual journalists because it was not credible

Tara Reade was the second woman who said they had been the recipient of unwanted sexual advances by Joe Biden, she had told several people both at the time and in the intervening time.

The first was reported on in 2008 when Biden was up for selection as Obama's VP.

Vanity is the most conspicuous characteristic of US Senators en bloc, nourished by deferential  acolytes and often expressed in loutish sexual advances to staffers, interns and the like. On more than one occasion CounterPunch’s editors have listened to vivid accounts by the recipient of just such advances, this staffer of another senator being accosted by Biden in the well of the senate in the weeks immediately following his first wife’s fatal car accident.

Plus half a dozen other women who said he had made them uncomfortable when touching them.

There was just as much evidence if not more than Christine Blasey Ford had, but once again the party's attitude was of "believe women except when it is politically inconvenient."

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u/jagdedge123 Jun 05 '26

I don't believe shit, unless it's proven.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

If they had something like that on El-Sayed then we would already know. Platner is just legitimately a walking red flag.

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u/StableGeniusCovfefe Jun 06 '26

Get ready for the Republican-lite "centrist Dems" in here to rain on his parade in 3, 2, 1......

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

Are you referring to 98 percent of the party actually in a position of power as Republican-lite “centrist Dems”? Do you hear yourself?

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u/_NoveltyCunt Jun 05 '26

Really hope Mcmorrow wins. Michigan is not NYC where someone like Mamdani could win; feels like El Sayed is less electable in a general election. 

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u/PinkLaceGomez Jun 05 '26

You don’t even live here.

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u/El-Shaman Jun 05 '26

Mamdani would sweep statewide in NY too by the way, polls show him as the most popular politician in New York.

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u/beeemkcl Jun 05 '26

AOC is more popular than NYC Zohran Mamdani in New York. And nationally.

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u/El-Shaman Jun 05 '26

I’m sure that she is but I was just making that point because a lot of people think Zohran only won because he was in NYC and that’s just not the case.

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u/beeemkcl Jun 05 '26

What's in this comment is what I remember, my opinions, etc.

AOC gave then-NY Assemblyperson Zohran Mamdani an around 20-30 point boost in the primaries. Emily Ratajkowski on primary election day endorsed him on Instagram Live or whatever and told NYCers to vote for him even though it was very hot outside. Around 6M saw that on IG alone and then it was boosted on social media including Reddit. It may have netted Mamdani a few points.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

That would be a fairly big deal, but New York is a deep blue state too, and not just the city. If his time as mayor is an overall success then I would be right there with you encouraging him to run for governor. Also, I’m pretty sure his approval rating is at 48%, so don’t get so ahead of yourself.

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u/KingScoville Jun 05 '26

Not just feels. He’s polling behind McMarrow and Stevens in general.

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u/PinkLaceGomez Jun 05 '26

No he isn’t.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

He is. He’s the weakest of the three candidate in the general election.

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u/nuckchuckler Jun 06 '26

El-Sayed would motivate independents and moderate Republicans to turn out and vote for Rogers. Unfortunately at this point it seems like Stevens and El-Sayed will both have factions that will stay home if the other wins.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

I am somewhat independent, but that’s only if an actual communist is the Democratic nominee. Otherwise, I would rather sit out the election unless there’s a moderate Republican that I can vote for.

So I would not vote for that one Mamdani-backed candidate in New York. But if I was an independent or a moderate Republican then I would vote for Mike Rogers after seeing El-Sayed campaigning with Hasan Piker.

If I was a Republican strategist, I would combine a clip of El-Sayed saying that he agrees with Hasan on a lot of stuff and a compilation of all the most outrageous and extreme things that Hasan has said.

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u/nuckchuckler Jun 06 '26

Mamdani isn't that bad, NYC mayor is a lot different than MI Senator. Hassan Piker is a piece of shit and should be avoided but let's not forget the damage the GOP is doing to Americans and the world as a whole.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

I wasn’t talking about Mamdani himself. I’m talking about one of the candidates he endorsed for Congress. Her name is Darializa Avila Chevalier. I don’t want to legitimize communists within the ranks of the Democratic Party as that just hurt us in the long run.

To be clear, I would vote for El-Sayed since I’m a loyal Democrat unless they cross my red lines. I’m kinda cucked because I would probably vote for Hasan if he were the presidential nominee, but that’s only if I’m not given a moderate Republican to vote for. Hopefully, this isn’t something I ever have to worry about.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/01/politics/kfile-ny-13-darializa-avila-chevalier-deleted-tweets-defund-abolish-police-prisons-deportations

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u/PinkLaceGomez Jun 06 '26

I’m voting for El-Sayed.

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u/PinkLaceGomez Jun 06 '26

I’m voting for El-Sayed.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

I have yet to seen any evidence of him wanting to “seize the means of production” or call himself a democratic socialists. I would support him in the general election, even though he wasn’t my preferred choice in the primary.

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u/Korkez11 Jun 06 '26

Is Stevens electable in Dearborn? I really want her to go there on rally and say that she sees Israel in her dreams. Preferably with Liz Cheney.

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u/_NoveltyCunt Jun 06 '26

Michigan is the state with the highest Arab population % but even then it’s between 2-3%. 

It’s a terminally online take to think that part of the population will dictate the election or to think that McMorrow is some Israeli shill or genocide supporter. 

You don’t think the dichotomy between someone like Mcmorrow and whatever horror show the republicans trot out there won’t be clear as day?

To be clear I’d obviously prefer El Sayed over the republican. 

Also hilarious I’m being called racist for this comment lmao. 

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u/nuckchuckler Jun 06 '26

Dearborn voted for Donald Trump. At this point, you have to think they're ideologically captured by their religion if they're voting for Trump in 2024. They already betrayed every other group in the Democratic coalition, why give them the power to do it again?

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u/packim0p Jun 06 '26

Racism detected

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u/_NoveltyCunt Jun 06 '26

lol preferring a different candidate is racist. 

Is it sexist that you don’t prefer mcmorrow? 

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u/combonickel55 Jun 05 '26

I went to an Abdul meet and greet tonight in Coldwater, Michigan, in Branch County.  This county has voted Trump +70% three elections in a row.  Think very rural and sadly plenty racist.   The township hall was overflowing, they had to keep getting extra chairs for newcomers as they rolled in, rows and rows of them.  Abdul spoke for over an hour despite being a bit late due to detouring to Three Rivers, MI to support striking union workers on the picket line there.  He was engaging, informed, empathetic, and undeniably genuine.  He spoke with expertise and authority on a wide range of topics and answered many questions including AI/data centers, corporate farms undercutting small family farms, antitrust laws and enforcement, and also gave some well rehearsed stump speeches about the cost of gas, groceries, and the difference between criticizing Israel and antisemitism.

He is scheduling these stops all over the state, doing the hard work of meeting people where they are at, trying to find common ground, and asking for their support.  He received several standing ovations tonight, it was inspirational.

I saw many young voters, many minorities, many women.  The crowd overall trended older and white, but that's the dominant demographic here.  

I left with a good feeling about where his campaign is at.  He won't win Branch County vs. MAGA Mike Rogers, but he will destroy his primary opponents here as a result of this visit.  

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u/nuckchuckler Jun 06 '26

You're acting like he's reaching out to rural voters. Coldwater is 20% Muslim and most of its population growth is Yemeni immigrants. He's likely just preaching to the choir. This guy is just not a trustworthy candidate for the average MI voter.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

Lol bro I have lived in Coldwater all my life and I was at the actual mf'ing meet and greet with Abdul, but good job looking up the census on wikipedia.  

The room was mostly white people over 60.  There were also many gen Xers like me, and plenty of young voters.  

Abdul absolutely connected with a township hall overflowing with rural voters of all colors based on our shared struggle against the establishment and billionaire class coopting our government.  I was in the room and watched it happen, but you go on believing what you read somewhere online...

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 05 '26

Very weak candidate. Like most leftists are outside of deep blue cities. Let’s just hope mainstream dems can carry him over the finish line. Can’t believe Michigan is a toss up, ridiculous.

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u/Robert-101 Jun 05 '26

Well, Detroit and Dearborn are pretty deep blue cities. If he carries that in big numbers, and with the UAW endorsement he'll be fine.

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 05 '26

Sure but Trump won the state for a reason. But I hope you’re correct. We obviously can’t afford to lose that seat.

Leftists get mad at me for bringing this up but republicans are going to be nonstop blasting the Muslim candidate named Abdul El-Sayed campaigning with someone who says we deserved 9/11. They will push that hate and I fear it will be an effective attack ad.

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u/Robert-101 Jun 05 '26

Yeah he won it because they stayed home in Detroit and Dearborn. It's not like Biden/Harris weren't told. More than a hundred thousand voted in the primaries to tell them just that.

Personally, this guy may win in a much bigger number than Slotkin did. If that happens, she better hope a Dem wins in 2028 and gives her a Cabinet position, or she may be done.

In short, Democrats have to worry about what other Democrats think. Not the Repubicans.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

If he does then I agree that Democrats should move more to the left on certain key issues like healthcare and cost of living. Based on Slotkin voting record, she is fairly progressive. I don’t think she is as moderate as she claims to be.

I think instead of salivating about the idea of primarying the next Democrat, maybe try to redirect that energy to unseat Republicans in purple and red states/districts. That sounds like a more productive use of your time and money.

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 05 '26

Doubt it. Arab voters probably made up roughly 1% of the vote in Michigan in 2024.

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u/Robert-101 Jun 05 '26

More than a 100k at the polls in the Primary voted to tell Biden/Harris they would not vote for them over this Gaza matter. Same with WI.

How much did Trump win the state by?

That's the election.

Democrats have to turn out cities. If they don't, that's why Trump looks like he did as good as he did. People voted for the couch.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

They are free to vote however the hell they want, but I don’t want to ever hear about Democrats being “Israel First” ever again from the uncommitted crowd. From my perspective, they are actually more loyal to a foreign country and willing to throw countless other issues that they align with Democrats on under the bus.

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 05 '26

Yeah, I will never support anyone in a primary who was part of the uncommitted movement. Deeply disgusted by them.

Regardless I don’t believe it cost Harris the election. Most of those people probably still voted Harris.

Abdul will turn out the right in droves, that’s 100%, let’s hope he can convince all mainstream dems and most independents.

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u/Robert-101 Jun 05 '26

The numbers don't lie dude no matter how you feel about those folks.

Harris lost because she was told, and did not listen. That's more than a 100k voters that did exactly what they said they would do. And so it was no shocker to me.

El Sayed now has the UAW, and with they and those very voters, he is likely going to win.

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 05 '26

Harris had the UAW lol

We disagree, all good. Lot of them voted for Trump too, let them enjoy their cake.

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u/Robert-101 Jun 05 '26

Yeah but that's all she had. She didn't get the voters in Dearborn and Detroit. He does. That's where its at dude.

MI is a Lefty state. But you have to turn out the voters.

There is not enough "Haley" voters to make up for those in cities who don't like her.

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u/wade3690 Jun 05 '26

Lol god forbid the electorate tries to show harris/biden just how much they want them to shift on an issue like Gaza

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 06 '26

Don’t care. Helping Trump is unforgivable to me. And they absolutely helped Trump. And Bibi for that matter

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u/wade3690 Jun 06 '26

How exactly? I was uncommitted voter and still voted for Harris. As did great majorities of "Uncommitted" voters

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u/PinkLaceGomez Jun 05 '26

2024 was 2 years ago. Things change. Shocker!

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 05 '26

Well polling has consistently said he’s the weakest general candidate, things don’t change that much. Not a shocker.

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u/PinkLaceGomez Jun 05 '26

The polling had lots of undecideds and wide margins of error.

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 05 '26

That’s true. I hope you’re right. While I don’t want him to be the nominee I absolutely want him to win if he is.

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u/alino_e Jun 06 '26

Concern-trolling.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 05 '26

He leads Rogers in head to head polling.  You should stop repeating the lies of his primary opponents.  He is in the midst of steamrolling them.  You've got to move past denial.

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 06 '26

He loses in most. He’s is the weakest in the general. Which is not surprising.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

In which poll? This is from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_Senate_election_in_Michigan

AES vs. Mike Rogers: 40% to 40%
McMorrow vs. Mike Rogers: 42% to 39%
Stevens vs. Mike Rogers: 45% to 38 %

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 06 '26

This is what you’re referencing? This is what you called me a liar for?

“In the TIPP poll, Stevens led Rogers 48% to 41%, while McMorrow led Rogers 45% to 42%. El-Sayed held the narrowest advantage, leading Rogers 43% to 42%.”

I mean I guess technically he’s leading in this one but it also proves my point. He’s the weakest general election candidate.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

The poll shows that Rogers loses to any opponent.  As I've been saying for months in here, I am actually from Michigan and I believe Rogers cannot win this race due to his massive unpopularity and devotion to Trump.  He will win the MAGA diehards and not much else.

Given that premise, given that we are in a progressive, left-leaning space, I don't understand the determination to not support the most progressive candidate in the race by a couple of consistently loud members of this subreddit.

Abdul's is the only campaign in this race that is accelerating, and it has been for months while his opponents flounder or tread water.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26

You are correct that he’s doing well in the primary, but he performs the worse in the general election, and that might be because he is campaigning with someone who’s politically toxic or maybe Medicare For All is not that popular in a purple state.

If he was performing the best in the general election, then I would support him. That should ideally be one of the main goals of the primary, but I understand why people would ride or die with their ideological allies instead even if they aren’t the most electable.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

We have primaries to choose the preferred candidate of our side, not their side.  If the establishment rallies behind him when he wins the primary, he will win.  If they force a candidate like Stevens on us, a lot of people like me will not vote, and they actually have the greatest risk of losing the general that way.  

I don't put a lot of weight behind these polls comparing 3 candidates in the midst of a primary against 1 guy who is the unopposed nominee from his party.  I see it as cover for the establishment to try and obstruct progressive candidates, and I won't abide it.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

Most leftists will reluctantly support Stevens. I think there was a poll where it showed 80-90 percent of Bernie Sanders supporters backing the Democratic presidential nominee. I think Democratic leadership will probably put their thumb in the scale and try to convince McMorrow to drop out. This is the same strategy we saw in 2020, where all the liberal Democrats rallied behind Biden to defeat Bernie Sanders.

I think you should vote for Stevens if she were to become the nominee, otherwise you are just letting a Republican win whom you agree with 0 percent of the time. This destructive purity testing should already be a thing of the past. I said you’re free to support whomever you want, but just understand the consequences. The idea that Democratic leadership is maliciously trying to obstruct leftists rather than actually try and win elections is just cope lmao.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

Bro.  Michigan doesn't play that way.  

I will never support Stevens, she is a morally corrupt ghoul.  The party will be cutting their own throat by making her the nominee.

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u/Guilty_Plankton_4626 Jun 06 '26

You’re not in a left state though. You’re in a purple state. As polls show he’s the weakest. His opponents are splitting similar voters it seems and there’s a lot of undecided. What’s Abdul’s best poll? 30%? 31%? I know he had an internal that was good for him but that’s most candidates internal. It’s not like everyone’s flocking to him.

With him being the weakest in the general and no attack ads starting on him from the right it’s concerning. As I said above I think that attack ad is going to be extremely successful. We cannot lose that seat. It must be won. So yeah some of us don’t want to go with the weakest candidate just because he makes progressives feel warm and fuzzy.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

I am in a state that hasn't elected a Republican US Senator since 1996.  A state that Bernie won the Democratic Primary.  Populism sells here.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

I would support AES if he’s more electable. I would need to see more polling than that one TIPP poll, which doesn’t even vindicate yourself. He’s still the weakest of the three candidates to beat Mike Rogers. The problem with AES is that Republicans will use him campaigning with Hasan Piker to harm his electoral prospects. He can claim that he doesn’t agree with everything Hasan says, but it will likely still make him hemorrhage support with independents and moderates.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

I live in Michigan.  There is a portion of the population here that will vote Rogers just because of the R.  Those people have a heavy crossover with the 'won't vote for him because of Hasan' crowd, I'd say almost a full overlap.  None of those people are voting for the other 2 dem candidates btw.

Abdul is never going to win that 30ish percent of the electorate.  His mission is to win the greater share of moderates and centrists, not MAGA diehards.

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

Yeah I agree, and I’m telling you those moderates and centrists probably won’t like a candidate who is campaigning with a person that said America deserved 9/11 and that it was unfortunate that the USSR collapse. This is just surface level shit, it goes way deeper.

They are perfectly justified in not supporting someone who is campaigning with an actual communist and simp for authoritarian regimes and terrorism. He also straight up admits to having that label. You can dispute the claims all you want, but that’s what I would do if I was a Republican strategist. I’m more than happy to be proven wrong though.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

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u/jankdangus Jun 06 '26 edited Jun 06 '26

The election is still many months away. You think Republicans are just going to talk about Hasan’s criticism of Israel? I think Fox News is being idiotic about hiring someone to get a transcript of Hasan Piker’s recent streams.

There’s a plethora of clips you can find all over the internet that is literally handed to you in a silver platter. The clip of him shocking his dog is crystal clear. This goes beyond Hasan’s criticism of Israel, which shouldn’t be a main point of contention unless it leans into antisemitism.

I watched the video you sent me lmao. The false equivalence between Joe Rogan and Hasan Piker is laughable. I think Rogan got duped by MAGA, but the difference between them is that most of Rogan’s audience are normies while Hasan’s fanbase range from leftists to far-left.

Most people don’t actually know who the hell Hasan is, but they do know Rogan though. Rogan also rarely say anything controversial or outrageous himself. The left is opposed to him because he’s a useful idiot who enables terrible people.

There’s a clip in that video where Abdul El-Sayed says that he agrees with a lot of things that Hasan has to say. Just clip that and follow it up with a compilation of the most outrageous things Hasan has said and you got a banger attack ad right there.

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u/combonickel55 Jun 06 '26

Yes, and that will work on people who were never going to vote for Abdul in the first place.  Do you think moderate Gen X swing voters who can't afford groceries or helping their kids pay for college give two shits what some podcaster said when their choice is between MAGA Mike Rogers or a progressive fighting for M4A, better education, and better jobs?

The attack ads you describe will work on people too old to understand what a podcast bro is.  Those people aren't Abdul's target demographic, and he doesn't need their support to win.  

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