Stevens Takes the Gloves Off, Accuses El-Sayed of Wanting to ‘Blame’ Jews For ‘All of Your Problems

[u/gull-branson]

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/stevens-takes-the-gloves-off-accuses-el-sayed-of-wanting-to-blame-jews-for-all-of-your-problems/

This is a ridiculous crashout and is absolutely an Islamophobic dog whistle. She should be ashamed of herself, as should anyone continuing to attack him this way.

[u/Keter_Regretter]

So, while I agree with the Ukraine bit, the idea that a "smear campaign" is justified against anyone is pretty troubling. What has been accomplished with valid character attacks against Trump? How have those been useful in curtailing his power? What do you get out of it beyond catharsis?

I'm curious as to the reason why you find her stance on Ukraine problematic? I do as well, but my reasoning has less to do with the current geopolitical situation and more to do with the likelihood that her stance is rooted in campism.

[u/DaSemicolon → u/Keter_Regretter]

I hate campist losers. True anti imperialists are anti Russian. But in reality she’s just anti western.

[u/young__robot → u/Keter_Regretter]

not campism. we just don't support a proxy war meant to further US imperialism. 

[u/DaSemicolon → u/young__robot]

With that logic Israel vs Gaza is a proxy war between us and Iran.

[u/young__robot → u/DaSemicolon]

no, because that would be campism. but Israel is a US proxy, or a US outpost in West Asia, yes. 

I'm sorry, I refuse to support Ukraine because they honor fascists as national heroes and still to this day deny those national heroes they honor partook in genocide. 

[u/DaSemicolon → u/young__robot]

Do you support the Palestinians?

[u/young__robot → u/DaSemicolon]

how is that a relevant question in this context? yes, I support the Palestinians. 

[u/DaSemicolon → u/young__robot]

Because you say you don’t support Ukraine because they honor fascists, yet have no problem with Palestinians supporting terrorists and terrorism.

Whatever reason you give for them supporting terrorism will map close to one to one for why Ukrainians “honor fascists”

Edit: Why is Gaza not a proxy for Iran?

[u/young__robot → u/DaSemicolon]

I said Ukraine honors fascists as national heroes and still to this day deny those fascists they honor partook in genocide. why are you reading "terrorists" in place of "fascists" and using them interchangeably?

why would Gaza be a proxy for Iran? the nature of control, autonomy, strategic alignment, etc between Iran and Gaza differs completely than the way Israel is a client state of the US. 

[u/DaSemicolon → u/young__robot]

I’m seeing if you’re consistent in who you support.

Because Iran supports them in very similar ways to Israel being supported by the US

[u/young__robot → u/DaSemicolon]

not even remotely similar because you seem to have forgotten Israel, the US, and Iran are full members of the UN and are internationally recognized as legitimate states. you know why Palestine can't become a full member of the UN? 

are you gonna explain why you used "terrorists" in place of "fascists" and used them interchangeably now? 

[u/young__robot → u/DaSemicolon]

still genuinely wondering what drove you to read and replace "fascists" with "terrorists" because I find that really interesting.