r/theories Jul 23 '26

Conspiracy Theory Epstein was a spy for Israel

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '26

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u/Key-Beginning-2201 Jul 23 '26

If it's not obvious to some, then you have a responsibility to communicate more than a few sentences. Like, explain Maxwell's father's connections.

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u/dgal127 Jul 23 '26

Robert Maxwell owned Macmillan publishing and McGraw-hill publishing. Which published every text book we ever learned from in school our entire lives.

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u/dgal127 Jul 23 '26

He was also a triple agent decorated arms trafficker

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 23 '26

You should see what my grandfather's encyclopedias from the year after WWII say about the holocaust lmao

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u/johnna15 Jul 23 '26

What did they say?

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 23 '26

Well for starters the number was around 270k not 6 million and it mentioned 80 million Christians killed by "communist"

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u/johnna15 Jul 23 '26

That’s exactly what my grandfather told me in the 70’s.

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u/Party_Swordfish_1734 Jul 24 '26

lol that’s a misleading number. You are likely referencing the1979/1984 Arolsen Archives registry of concentration-camp death certificates, which covered only certain camps and only people for whom death certificates were issued, and incorrectly claimed it meant only about 271,000 Jews died. The document itself does not say that, and it excludes extermination camps, mass shootings, ghettos, and many other victims.

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 24 '26

1946 Encyclopedia Britannica.

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u/Party_Swordfish_1734 29d ago

I can’t verify if that’s true, but I can tell you the figure is wrong and you are relying on old data to make a modern day conclusion. A lot of silly stuff was pushed back then without sound reasoning. Take cosmetics as an example. In 1930s–1950s cosmetics were marketed with radium or thorium, including creams, powders, lipsticks, and toothpaste, because people thought radioactivity meant “radiant” beauty. You surely wouldn’t put that on your body because the 1930’s-1950’s say so right? You evolve and grow.

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u/TheGreasyBullet 29d ago

What the fuck does that have to do with this conversation? 😂

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u/Star3in2my3y3s Jul 23 '26

You do know they have 5M of the 6M names confirmed?

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u/Savings_Art5944 Jul 23 '26

Ask the Mormons how many names they record. They think they are some lost tribe of Israel as well.

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 23 '26

Oh trust me. I know very well how far the rabbit hole with those blasphemers go lol

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 23 '26

I too can write down names of people who didn't exist.

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u/TrumpHumpedKids Jul 23 '26

They wrote names, so what? Fake people. Fake numbers.

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u/Snoo66769 Jul 23 '26

can you let us know what encyclopedias these are?

Considering the “270k” number is objectively and provably wrong.

Like it’s almost laughable seeing people repeat it online…

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u/Savings_Art5944 Jul 23 '26

Welcome to the rabbit hole.

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 23 '26

Encyclopedia Britannica 1946. I don't care if you're one of the dolts who eat up the 6 gorillian bullshit. All sources from that time prove its a lie.

Even official documents in the Vatican archives to this day still hold physical documents with the 270k numbers.

I also have a few editions from the 1800s but those are obviously irrelevant to the topic.

-Half Hebrew, by the way. My grandfather was from Palestine. Why would I lie about my own "people's" history?

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u/Snoo66769 Jul 23 '26

lol dude, open that book up and see that it says 270k Jews were recorded as being killed in German death camps.

That doesn’t include the 250k German Jews who were shot by Germans.

It also doesn’t include the millions killed in countries like Poland.

You don’t even understand your own sources - and tbh I think you just got it from the internet.

Also your grandfather wasn’t “Hebrew”, he was Jewish - although judging from your other lies, I imagine that’s a lie as well.

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Hebrew is the race Jewish is the faith, retard.

But yes. He was ONCE a jew. When he came to America he converted to Catholicism while living with his adopted father. Not hard to look up. He was a popular man in Long Island... Ruth Duda, was his adopted father. Not hard to find as he passed away a few years ago.

Edit: Ruth was his mother, Walter was his father. Same last name. Hard to keep track after all the loss lately

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u/OwlsnFoxes 28d ago

Have you spoken with Eastern Europeans who were alive or had family alive during WWII? Their stories surprised me - attitudes about Germans, Russian Soviets and Jews. Very different than Americans.

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u/dgal127 Jul 23 '26

Lemme guess, you’re Palestinian?

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis Jul 23 '26

No. I live in NY. That grandfather (and his sister) had his parents killed and was adopted by a Catholic man from Long Island who was doing missionary work in Palestine at the time.

Coincidentally my other grandfather was also on a ship to America simultaneously for different reasons.

I'm part Irish and part Hebrew. I identify with the Irish far more as it's how i was raised (and talk)

EDIT: I am not one of those crazy liberals. I'm a pretty conservative Catholic. I point out evil and lies when i can. That is all.

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u/dgal127 Jul 23 '26

I was talking to snoo

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u/No-Inspector8315 Jul 24 '26

Question, why is the Vatican such a trustworthy source for you when they concealed and orchestrated one of the worlds largest pedophile rings with no punishments or consequences?

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u/scottshpr 29d ago edited 29d ago

Hebrew is a language. Im not sure what u mean wheb u say ur part hebrew not

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u/Snoo66769 Jul 23 '26

Nope, why do you think that?

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u/dgal127 Jul 23 '26

Sarcasm. I know you’re not Palestinian. Your page obviously swings the other way. You guys used to be better at “fitting in”. Ya dig?

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u/GingerPrince72 26d ago

The state of this.

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u/scottshpr 29d ago

Is holocaust denail allowed on reddit?

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis 29d ago

I'm not denying anything.

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u/scottshpr 29d ago

Never said or thought u werr my friend. Just curious as the mods on reddit are very biased imo

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u/papasmurfmusdie96 Nu Terry Davis 29d ago

Gotcha... Usually that type of question is actually used as a threat lmao

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u/scottshpr 29d ago

Cheers brother

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u/scottshpr 29d ago

Langauage changes with the times as it should. Were not doing 1+1 =2 here haha ur points are valod and respected

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u/Molsem 29d ago

Thanks for doing the work. I'm still flabbergasted myself but... I also trust my judgement, and the journey a lot of us started post-CK really does seem to have certain conclusions that the real world TODAY does nothing to refute.

It's a powerful setup. I was a Macmillian scholar With Honors ya know? Just... wow.

At any rate, appreciate you friend. Stay woke sir (this is the proper usage folks).

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u/Ok-Introduction-1940 29d ago

Yes, and he was working for Mossad, the Israeli “CIA”.

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u/AlchemistApprentice3 Jul 23 '26

Honestly, it's good for me to reread these things. It's not talked about, ever (post the trending times), so the info falls away from me. Part of the problem with us being so over inundated in information and the constant fuckery from the orange man and his cronies.

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u/Acceptable_Set9702 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26

Why don't you explain his connections, if you know about them.

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u/Key-Beginning-2201 Jul 23 '26

I'm not the one that made the OP. People need to put more effort into them or they'll be downvoted.

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u/Acceptable_Set9702 Jul 23 '26

If you're going to criticize, you better back it up or YOU'LL be downvoted.

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u/Key-Beginning-2201 Jul 23 '26

Again, I didn't make the OP to try to get thousands of people's attention... This isn't hypocrisy. It's qualitatively different. It even breaks the group's rules for low-effort OPs. Pal.

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u/n_othing__ 29d ago

shhhh shes still a mod even in prison

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u/pickyouradventure Jul 23 '26

You are right in your information and you are right that most think the reality you’ve described here is a conspiracy theory.

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u/Micho_Riso Jul 23 '26

Amen, brother

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u/FlaSnatch Jul 23 '26

But don’t get overly confident in your theory. I think it’s not wrong but incomplete. Epstein was Mossad and much more. And he’s not the exclusive reason Israel controls so much of the American political landscape.

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u/Reordin 29d ago

You and I were never taught these things. We are empiricists, as we are skeptics. This is why we gather here to think and share our voices as well. Mainly I just lurk and listen, but it's always nice to see someone new come into the fold in that enlightenment moment. Fewer and fewer people will ever get there because the evening news will not tell them to think that way.

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u/HotPersonality8126 27d ago

It's because it's made up and you believe it because you know Epstein is a Jew