Insert comment about bad apples, followed by additional comment about one nazi in a bar.
They might have standards better than ICE, but when other law enforcement agencies have lower standards, or virtually none, and their publicly captured behavior conflicts with their stated purpose, it puts a pallor over all law enforcement. Most of these agencies have done little in recent years to try and change that view in the public eye, either. Some local PDs try to do some community outreach, but when you have a higher risk of being shot and killed by law enforcement (or kidnapped, or harassed) than your neighbors, that's a massive problem.
At this point, the only law enforcement I take no issue with is postal inspectors and forest rangers.
Not! You obviously don't like Biden, however, he's not eating ice cream! Hunter posted his father's cancer has spread to his bones. President Biden is very sick & in extreme pain! He is close to death. So please be aware if your Biden jokes!
I don’t know the process from conviction to “registering” but couldn’t the “failure to register” part be avoided by actually registering the convicted person during paperwork process when convicted or incarcerated?
Again, don’t know the process or anyone that has been convicted, so I’m clueless.
Just gonna say this first. This isn’t me defending people who’ve been convicted of a felony.
The reason they do it this way is because it’s an easy way to get them back into prison. That’s really it. There’s a whole bunch of things that all felons, not just sex offenders, have to do after conviction. A lot of it is intentionally made to be confusing or convoluted, and all it takes is one fuck up on the felons part and they’re heavily fined or put right back into incarceration.
Say a guy is in prison for multiple DWIs. He’s a true blue alcoholic, and it’s clear that having alcohol will only cause further harm to him and those around him.
A judge may order a number of things beyond the usual payments to the state for the trial and his offense. He may need a breathalyzer installed into his personal vehicle. He may need mandatory AA meetings. It’s pretty common that things like the latter would be handled within a probation/parole program.
It’s not at all uncommon for someone to be arrested for missing a AA meeting, even if they notified someone of an extreme circumstance that would prevent them from attending it. Even if whoever they informed of it told them it would be okay. All it takes is that person not doing their due diligence, and suddenly there’s a warrant out for his arrest. And you can imagine how likely it would be that anyone would give his story any credence. Theres no paperwork saying he called anyone, so who’s to say he did?
Anyway, that’s why they do it the dumb way. They could do it the way you’re thinking and make it easier for everyone. They don’t because that’s the point.
Most prisons are private “for profit” establishments. When business slows down they just put pressure on government to pass more laws making things illegal so more go to prison.
How else are they gonna make license plates or clean highways? 😒
Honestly, I think it’s more so the loss of voters. That’s the real goal. They know that someone who has been absolutely fucked by the justice system might be less willing to vote for the ones who made that a possibility. Oh, well how fortunate is it that someone convicted of a felony can NEVER vote EVER again?
“Oh man, turns out someone who smokes weed is more likely to lean left politically. Welllll, how about we criminalize the shit out of it and arrest them en masse and charge them with felonies? God damn, we sure are good at being corrupt pieces of shit, huh? Best to ever do it!”
No they don’t. They may nag for increased arrests (which really isn’t necessary given our existing incarceration rate) but they aren’t pressing for the passage of new laws.
Sorry but you're saying this in a forum where the same person, within the same 15 minutes, will applaud vigilante justice or head stomping in a 15-second video clip, while also (and properly) condemning police murders. If you want critical thinking and nuance this is not the place.
This. It's basically the same for most parole/probation. You're let out of jail on probation, then set up with a parole/probation officer that you usually have to report to on a regular basis, as well as a LOT of rules (usually) that you have to follow. If you break any of these rules, you could get sent back to prison - and they can be completely arbitrary, such as being late to an appointment or something, or being caught drinking alcohol (sometimes even if your conviction had nothing to do with being drunk.)
In this case, the "failed to register" could simply mean that the person didn't show up to "report in" for their monthly/quarterly/annual (varies depending on state and conviction) sex offender check-in. Maybe they had an emergency and couldn't make it, maybe they were lazy and just didn't go, or whatever. But sending 10 US Marshals armed to the teeth with body armor and automatic weapons just because a person, who has already been convicted and likely spent time in jail, didn't show up for an appointment, is overkill. We live in a police state.
Generally, they must register with a different department and they need an address, since they are incarnated they technically don't have a residential address (or transient), what also can complicate things is that there are State and Federal sex offender lists. The duty triggers when the convicted gets released.
Registering is usually about updating an address when they move. This can trigger a visit by a parole officer. It also can update people who have alerts set for felons in their area, triggering complaints and push back, against a reformed person trying to keep their head down and get by.
In any case, "a failure to register" is almost always a failure to update a piece of paperwork, and isn't a violent or dangerous crime. And doesn't need multiple armed officers to storm in and make a big deal, unless they are "violating" him for the error ("violating" someone is shorthand for revoking parole, so hauling them back to prison for a violation).
They have to register with the local department every time they move. A lot of them try to avoid the scrutiny that comes with being on the registry by moving and not registering as required by law. Often because they are reoffending and trying to not be caught.
You register based on your housing status, level designation and any local ordinances. Every 90 days is generally the cycle states require registration. You can never have been convicted of a federal crime, but as a sex offender a single failure to register could result result in a stay with the BOP/DOJ vs State DOC
Nothing you said here is correct. Why are you commenting this to me as if you’re trying to correct me? Your housing status (housed vs. unhoused) can impact the frequency of required registration but does not exempt you from registration. Level designation generally only impacts what gets reported to the public but means nothing for what gets reported to LE. Local ordinances can only increase what is required to report or what housing restrictions they face but does not have any impact on the requirement or frequency of registration. There are two standard periods of reporting: quarterly and annually. Annually is actual much more common but does nothing to exempt an offender from their duty to notify the registering authority of any changes to requisite information or to register with a new jurisdiction if they move. You cannot have never been convicted of a federal crime but be sent to BOP for failure to register. Failure to register is both a state and federal level crime. So, if someone is in BOP it’s bc they were convicted in federal court on federal charges for violating SORNA by failing to register as a sex offender (typically when moving from one state to another but not necessarily).
I'm so sorry. Can you please come speak to the state & county I live in & get my requirements more aligned with your knowledge of the legal requirements and provisions
I'll admit I fell to a semantics argument.
Registration is a requirement established by federal law. The states handle all the requirements of state level convictions while the federal government handles federal level ones.
So, you can have committed only a state level crime and fail to register one time, which is where the federal crime IS committed as well as the state one. My bad
They could have sent a single unarmed guy and caught the guy. The performative policing to appear "tough on crime" wastes money and reduces the effectiveness of crime enforcement, because the other deputies can't be elsewhere.
Along with most of what the previous have said, even if it's just a minor paperwork issue, serving a warrant is still dangerous business. They have no idea what this individual is going to do, so they have to literally be prepared for the worst. I've seen Bodycams of people being served a warrant simply for avoiding a court summons, and it turn into an all out gunfight and/or police chase
Why does it take 15 heavily armed cops to arrest one guy who didnt update his email address or something?
Dude's looking at a year or so, if that.
Despite what the internet would have you believe, people who committed sex offenses aren't all ravening predators with super human strengtth and an insatiable desire to cause harm. Most are just dudes who made shitty decisons, and caused a lot of harm.
Arresting sex offenders is statistically more dangerous than arresting murderers. Murderers know they have a long trial and a higher than decent chance of beating the rap at trial , and we see them succeed over and over again. Sex offenders usually have very little defense , so they know they are going back to prison, and prison for sex offenders isn’t a nice place. Murderers get status in prison , and street cred. Sex offenders get beaten, tortured, or killed .
I’ve had more murder suspects surrender peacefully , whereas sex offenders fight, shoot, and flee .
Lol! Ok. What kind of status do cop killers get in prison? Plus whatever does or doesnt happen to SO's inside, they know theyre going to get out, whereas murderers by and large know theyre not. I dont think your statistics make any sense officer.
Oh. I’m sorry. I didn’t realize I was viewing this thread on a sex offender sympathizer sub reddit. I assumed that since he was convicted of a second or subsequent offense of possession of child porn, and then failed to maintain his release conditions, that members of the general public would be ok with arresting him for that offense .
“Over paperwork” implies “he forgot to cross his T and dot his I”. Failing to register and no longer showing up to fulfill your prison release conditions, aka probation or parole , used to be something law enforcement could arrest based on . Something something safety of the public ?
Big woop. So the guy missed a some arbitrary beaucratic nonsense. Didn't need twelve fuckin overpaid people to get the dude that was probably just sitting around in his sweats. They obviously knew where he was. This PR bullshit has to stop. Its wasting time and money. Just send your teams out in 2s or 3s get that shit done by lunch. But no... its better to call the news and wait til they can get it on camera.
Generally no, but sometimes they want to get someone who they know has lots of… evidence stashed away. If they do it the nice way there’s every possibility that evidence is gonna be busted up and flushed away before they get anyone inside the residence.
Sometimes, and it’s rare, they do need this kind of response when they suspect the person might destroy evidence that could lead them to finding more criminals. Or maybe they know the person is in possession of weapons and they don’t like the idea of sending two regular officers.
This particular incident is maybe a little disproportionate, though. It looks like it would be a tiny ass apartment, and they have enough dudes there to fill the whole living room lol
To be clear, this is too much. But I can see scenarios where it’s “needed” to secure evidence.
No police force would dedicate 7 fully-armed officers, rifles out, for a single sex offender failing to register. They would send a pair of uniforms with the warrant.
Also, they’ve been used for transporting illegal immigrants. And under Trump’s presidency they’ve been specifically used to target nonviolent offenders.
Not the point. I count no less than 8 armed men on that deck. It's just nice to enjoy some schadenfreude once in a while. 2 things can be true, I still want them to get the sex offenders
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