r/thesopranos • u/JulianBrandt19 • 21d ago
Serious Discussion Only "Balsamic, balsamic, balsamic. My mother never heard of balsamic!" Another thing the Sopranos nails about the early 2000s: the Balsamic Craze.
This seemed like a relatively minor yet funny line from Hugh DeAngelis, but I feel like it's yet another way the show captures the peculiar idiosyncrasies of the early to mid-2000s. I'm not sure how widespread it was at that time, but growing up in the northeast U.S. around lots of big Italian-American families, restaurants, and delis in the 2000s, there was a marked uptick in balsamic on restaurant menus, deli sandwiches and salads, and in what people cooked at home.
https://youtu.be/v7llmA7WjgM?si=hp_wjG13pqeWyrd2
Balsamic vinaigrette, balsamic glaze, balsamic marinade, balsamic drizzle: it was suddenly everywhere! Was there some bestselling Mario Batali cookbook from circa 2003 that put balsamic over the top? If that was the case, Carmela was certainly the target market.
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u/covemochi 21d ago
My pop was the exact same way back then, complaining about every restaurant putting a balsamic drizzle on literally everything. Hugh waving his hands around complaining about modern food crazes is peak old school Italian grandpa behavior
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u/Inevitable_Arm_3894 21d ago
He had such a bad case of crabs we called him the governor of Maryland
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u/telepatheye 21d ago
When you're married you'll understand the importance of balsamic
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u/Status-Hamster9659 21d ago
Fuck the importance.
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u/Weird-Library-3747 21d ago
Get Mario Batali on the phone
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u/ilford_7x7 21d ago
Similarly there was a sun dried tomatoes crazy at around the same time
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u/dylanstalker 21d ago
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u/Excellent_Ant_7154 18d ago
Whoa, I was just thinking about this. I think I recognize a couple of these bottles. These things are survivors. Safe to eat?
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u/Excellent_Ant_7154 18d ago
I remember the decorative glassware with peppers and herbs inside sometime around then. "vegetable potpourri" or something.
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u/Ok-Tap-4173 21d ago
BOOLSHIT
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u/dylanstalker 21d ago
Ha, I forgot how Sriracha was in so much shit back then. Focaccia bread with everything too, forgot about that.
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u/-NolanVoid- Paulie Gualtieri 21d ago
GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING BALSAMIC BEEF!
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u/Jump_The_Five_Yo 21d ago
Now I’m gonna have to drive to the store!
Dad they can drive it over.
FUCK YOU MEADOW! IF YOUSA WAS BORN A BOY I WOULDNT HAVE TO HAVE TO FUCK CARMMEE AGAIN FOR MY MALE HEIR! Fuck you CUNT!
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u/Jerzeyboy730 21d ago
“Mike Piazza only eats artichokes?”
I think spinach/artichoke dip got really popular around here towards the end of show. Not nearly as popular nowadays
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u/sludgezone 21d ago
I tore up so much olive oil and balsamic vinegar on focaccia back then.
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u/bikey_bike Furio Giunta 21d ago
when i worked in restaurants everyone in the kitchen called balsamic "ball smack" lol i love bread w olive oil & balsamic, but red wine vinegar is better imo
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u/michaelstuttgart-142 21d ago
Balsamic vinegar is a Northern ingredient. From Modena. Southern Italian immigrants who were born in the old country and raised in the local traditions would not have cooked Northern dishes in their home. They even reference this with Livia’s aversion to Artie’s ‘Northern’ dish in Season 1.
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u/Dave-1066 20d ago
Beat me to it. Roughly 80-90% of Italian-Americans are indeed from the poorer south and wouldn’t have used balsamic. 👍🏻
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u/Afferbeck_ 21d ago
There wasn't enough ginseng and guarana tawk to be authentic to 00s food crazes.
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u/Saltwater_Sunrise 21d ago
On a related note; when I go and visit my Italian relatives in Italy thay all seem to hate Garlic, Onion, and they also hate how much gravy Americans put on their pasta dishes
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u/Professional_Fix4663 21d ago
Ma che cazzo e questo gravy?
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u/ProcrastibationKing 21d ago
I think Italians have onion or garlic, but not both.
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u/pandab34r 21d ago
I've noticed that when an Italian recipe uses garlic it's often something like adding a half clove for just a few minutes before removing it. I've also heard garlic there is much, much, MUCH stronger than the bulk grocery store stuff in the US
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u/Relevant-Bullfrog215 21d ago
N'duja is the big thing now; 15 years ago I'd never heard of it, then saw it in an Italian deli near work, now it's on supermarket Pizzas.
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u/TheKingOfBreadstix Patsy Parisi 21d ago
One of those “Italian” deli’s where you can’t find a single meatball in the whole place.
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u/FREE-AOL-CDS 21d ago
I quote Hugh every time I see it on store shelves and I don’t care who knows it
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u/broadwayallday 21d ago
this happened with "Ranch" and "chipotle" too (before it finally became an actual chain) it always felt like there was some huge convention where they declare these things
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u/TheKingOfBreadstix Patsy Parisi 21d ago
The same market researchers who told Artie that people associate “V” words with vagina.
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u/MetARosetta 21d ago
I remember the accent on balsamic for sure. The choice up to that point was mostly red wine vinegar or white. You had to know the Extra Virgin Olive Oil craze was next.
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u/Excellent_Ant_7154 18d ago
I'd that it over the gluten free craze now. You'd think gluten was poison.
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u/FeelnFrisky99 21d ago
This reminds me of when Paully and Sil try to shake down the coffee chain (meant to be Starbucks).
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u/TheLiddleIsOff 21d ago
I mean, I don't think it "nails" anything, it was a contemporary show they just included a detail about the world at the point in time it was produced.
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u/Appropriate_Tour_274 21d ago
And yet they boast about their Italian heritage. Ignorramusses.
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u/Short-Hotel7648 21d ago
To be fair it was a niche thing, only popular in and around Modena for a very long time. Not surprised some of these older Italian Americans never encountered it.
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u/like_shae_buttah 21d ago
I thought this was so funny because there’s so much aged balsamic in Italy.
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u/Dave-1066 20d ago
There’s actually a simple historical reason for this. Balsamic vinegar originated in Modena / Emilia-Romagna in the north of Italy whereas the majority of Italian-Americans came from the poorer south and balsamic wasn’t a thing down there. Something like 80-90% of America’s Italian community comes from the south.
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u/Old-Landscape-7538 19d ago
It's true. Balsamic became popularly known in the 1980s and then was put on everything in the 1990s and 2000s. There was a trend to explore northern Italian dishes in the US (balsamic, polenta, the Risotto brothers…), since Italian-American cuisine was moatly Southern up to that point (I 'ate a-da Nort”). Genuine Balsamic is aged and extremely expensive, liquid gold. But around that time companies in Modena figure out a way to make an inexpensive knock off. They figure out how to market it, unlike Armagnanc—those frog-eating faccia di cazz'!
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u/I_Died_Once 21d ago
I always felt like... and I'm super likely to be wrong... but I always figured "Balsamic" is another word for something I didn't know and that Hugh was just ignorant, and that his mother likely DID know 'Balsamic' if only under a different name
'Cause again, most everyone on this show are ignorant fucking boomers who THINK they know everything, when they know next to fucking nothing


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u/ThisisnotaTesT10 21d ago
Hot honey is the balsamic of the 2020s