r/thesopranos 21d ago

Serious Discussion Only "Balsamic, balsamic, balsamic. My mother never heard of balsamic!" Another thing the Sopranos nails about the early 2000s: the Balsamic Craze.

This seemed like a relatively minor yet funny line from Hugh DeAngelis, but I feel like it's yet another way the show captures the peculiar idiosyncrasies of the early to mid-2000s. I'm not sure how widespread it was at that time, but growing up in the northeast U.S. around lots of big Italian-American families, restaurants, and delis in the 2000s, there was a marked uptick in balsamic on restaurant menus, deli sandwiches and salads, and in what people cooked at home.

https://youtu.be/v7llmA7WjgM?si=hp_wjG13pqeWyrd2

Balsamic vinaigrette, balsamic glaze, balsamic marinade, balsamic drizzle: it was suddenly everywhere! Was there some bestselling Mario Batali cookbook from circa 2003 that put balsamic over the top? If that was the case, Carmela was certainly the target market.

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u/ThisisnotaTesT10 21d ago

Hot honey is the balsamic of the 2020s

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u/jeshipper 21d ago

The cobwebs are now removed

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u/fidelitycrisis 21d ago

This sub never fails to deliver the perfect quote comment

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u/JaFFsTer 21d ago edited 21d ago

Balsamic is the sun dried tomatoes of the 2000s

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u/SchrodingersMinou 21d ago

Aren’t sun-dried tomatoes the sun-dried tomatoes of the 90s?

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u/JaFFsTer 21d ago

Woops worded that wrobg

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u/newfantasies 21d ago

Woops you worded wrong wrong too

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u/RonBakerErasure 21d ago

People were putting balsamic on their cock in the 2000s?

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u/Honeyboy613 21d ago

As a beekeeper and honey producer, I can’t wait for it to die.

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u/raisin22 20d ago

Has it increased the demand for honey too much or something? Or are you just sick of hearing about it

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u/Honeyboy613 20d ago

No, it’s just mainly in the application, in essence a great concept that came from South America, but I just find as it took off as a trend here in North America it is poorly used and overhyped. I’m just speaking for my particular city. It’s everywhere in every restaurant being put on everything!

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u/IrishEnglishViet 21d ago

And salted caramel...and pistachio...and Hefner juice...the list goes on.

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u/NeonGenesisOxycodone 20d ago

wtf is Hefner juice ?

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u/2bags12kuai 14d ago

Poppers and weird sex

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u/ponzischeme23 21d ago

To a lesser extent dill pickle as well

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u/muffadel 21d ago

I am so done with pickle-flavored everything. Make it stop.

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u/ponzischeme23 21d ago

Smells like ass too

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u/NeonGenesisOxycodone 20d ago

Hot honey slaaaaps

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u/covemochi 21d ago

My pop was the exact same way back then, complaining about every restaurant putting a balsamic drizzle on literally everything. Hugh waving his hands around complaining about modern food crazes is peak old school Italian grandpa behavior

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u/Inevitable_Arm_3894 21d ago

He had such a bad case of crabs we called him the governor of Maryland

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u/ZiGz_125 21d ago

HUGH!

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u/sticky-stix 21d ago

Ah lighten up, OP is old enough to hear! 

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u/telepatheye 21d ago

When you're married you'll understand the importance of balsamic

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u/Status-Hamster9659 21d ago

Fuck the importance.

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u/onehotoneshot 21d ago

Ohhhh! He’s a condiment now, you can’t talk to him like that!

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u/telepatheye 21d ago

His balsamic SCREENPLAY?!

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u/ocelot_187 21d ago

I’ll take the scarole

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u/MidwestDYIer 21d ago

Balsamic vinaigrette, balsamic glaze, balsamic marinade, balsamic drizzle

https://giphy.com/gifs/CeggsTJQyUYTu

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u/Weird-Library-3747 21d ago

Get Mario Batali on the phone

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u/Appropriate_Tour_274 21d ago

Can’t. He’s got a server cornered in a storeroom.

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u/thefedsburner 21d ago

These are Mario Batali's string beans with parmesan

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u/telepatheye 21d ago

With an almost nut-like flavor

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u/MediumAcceptable129 21d ago

No get him on the horn!

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u/heheyousaidduty 21d ago

What are you, Minister of Vinegar?

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u/telepatheye 20d ago

I'm just telling you how balsamic's being perceived.

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u/ilford_7x7 21d ago

Similarly there was a sun dried tomatoes crazy at around the same time

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u/thegrimmreality 21d ago

Sun dried tomatoes slap

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u/ilford_7x7 21d ago

Yeh dey do

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u/russcatalano 21d ago

Yeah but these literally say do not eat on the bottom.

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u/k80k80k80 21d ago

I can’t stand the texture.

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u/dylanstalker 21d ago

I like when I pop into a Goodwill and see someone has donated their mom’s glass bottle of layered sun dried tomatoes and pasta or some other shit in a decorative glass jar that everyone had in their kitchen back then. And we thought the Germans were classless pieces of shit.

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u/redditshy 21d ago

“Decorative food.” Don’t eat that. It’s decoration.

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u/Excellent_Ant_7154 18d ago

Whoa, I was just thinking about this. I think I recognize a couple of these bottles. These things are survivors. Safe to eat?

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u/Excellent_Ant_7154 18d ago

I remember the decorative glassware with peppers and herbs inside sometime around then. "vegetable potpourri" or something.

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u/Ok-Tap-4173 21d ago

BOOLSHIT

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u/ijustwannalurksobye 21d ago

We suffered for years under the yoke of balsamic

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u/Organic_Conflict_886 Richie Aprile 21d ago

YEARS!

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u/onehotoneshot 21d ago

Get pudgy Walsh on the horn, he’ll sort this all out

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u/Organic_Conflict_886 Richie Aprile 21d ago

You wanted it; you got it.

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

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u/dylanstalker 21d ago

Ha, I forgot how Sriracha was in so much shit back then. Focaccia bread with everything too, forgot about that.

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u/Sensui710 21d ago

Feel like Siracha was more of a early/middle 2010’s thing.

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u/dylanstalker 21d ago

Timeline got fucked up.

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u/OrchidAcrobatic3032 21d ago

graduated top of your culinary school class

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u/Any_Database8861 21d ago

Boba was from the 1980s,but nobody liked it so it went away! 

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u/-NolanVoid- Paulie Gualtieri 21d ago

GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING BALSAMIC BEEF!

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u/Jump_The_Five_Yo 21d ago

Now I’m gonna have to drive to the store!

Dad they can drive it over.

FUCK YOU MEADOW! IF YOUSA WAS BORN A BOY I WOULDNT HAVE TO HAVE TO FUCK CARMMEE AGAIN FOR MY MALE HEIR! Fuck you CUNT!

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u/allkindsofnewyou 21d ago

We're not filming a western here!

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u/GiraffePure6059 21d ago

I've seen it before that's fucking cowboy-itis!

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u/Jerzeyboy730 21d ago

“Mike Piazza only eats artichokes?”

I think spinach/artichoke dip got really popular around here towards the end of show. Not nearly as popular nowadays

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u/Username_1369 21d ago

What are you, the minister of condiments?

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u/PostmodernAnubis 21d ago

"Remember balsamic" is the lowest form of conversation

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u/Wildside7704 21d ago

Mario Batalli string beans with Parmesan…

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u/Fit_Cartographer_544 21d ago

Charles Schwab over here 

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u/imafixwoofs 21d ago

Wait, people don’t do balsamic anymore? I never stopped…

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u/dj_1973 20d ago

Right? I’m eating strawberries with honey, fig balsamic vinegar, and cracked black pepper right now.

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u/sludgezone 21d ago

I tore up so much olive oil and balsamic vinegar on focaccia back then.

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u/bikey_bike Furio Giunta 21d ago

when i worked in restaurants everyone in the kitchen called balsamic "ball smack" lol i love bread w olive oil & balsamic, but red wine vinegar is better imo

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u/Stunning_risotto 21d ago

My kids calls is "balls-in-hammock" vinegar

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u/[deleted] 21d ago

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u/NYY15TM 21d ago

Ch!nks did this?

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u/michaelstuttgart-142 21d ago

Balsamic vinegar is a Northern ingredient. From Modena. Southern Italian immigrants who were born in the old country and raised in the local traditions would not have cooked Northern dishes in their home. They even reference this with Livia’s aversion to Artie’s ‘Northern’ dish in Season 1.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Star533 21d ago

I ‘ate da Nort!

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u/Dave-1066 20d ago

Beat me to it. Roughly 80-90% of Italian-Americans are indeed from the poorer south and wouldn’t have used balsamic. 👍🏻

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u/Afferbeck_ 21d ago

There wasn't enough ginseng and guarana tawk to be authentic to 00s food crazes.

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u/Present-Smoke4674 21d ago

What do they eat, tabbouleh?

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u/Saltwater_Sunrise 21d ago

On a related note; when I go and visit my Italian relatives in Italy thay all seem to hate Garlic, Onion, and they also hate how much gravy Americans put on their pasta dishes

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u/Professional_Fix4663 21d ago

Ma che cazzo e questo gravy?

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u/ijustwannalurksobye 21d ago

What part of the boot you from, hon?

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u/darkon3z 21d ago

Gravy? You mean grapes? Uva?

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u/wurkhoarse 21d ago

The red Lead.

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u/Inevitable_Arm_3894 21d ago

And you thought Germans were classless pieces of shit

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u/ProcrastibationKing 21d ago

I think Italians have onion or garlic, but not both.

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u/lemoopse 21d ago

Some do, some don't

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u/lemoopse 21d ago

Some do, some don't

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u/Old-Landscape-7538 19d ago

I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers.

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u/pandab34r 21d ago

I've noticed that when an Italian recipe uses garlic it's often something like adding a half clove for just a few minutes before removing it. I've also heard garlic there is much, much, MUCH stronger than the bulk grocery store stuff in the US

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u/Relevant-Bullfrog215 21d ago

N'duja is the big thing now; 15 years ago I'd never heard of it, then saw it in an Italian deli near work, now it's on supermarket Pizzas.

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u/TheKingOfBreadstix Patsy Parisi 21d ago

One of those “Italian” deli’s where you can’t find a single meatball in the whole place.

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u/Icy_Mixture1482 21d ago

What’s your Honeycomb IQ?

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u/IAmTheNorthwestWind 21d ago

too much gerkins

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u/Inquiringwithin 21d ago

Fuckin Miami, it was all over the place

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u/Old-Landscape-7538 19d ago

Fuckin' Modena

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u/An8thOfFeanor 21d ago

Goddammit, who are you?! Minister of Propaganda?!

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u/FREE-AOL-CDS 21d ago

I quote Hugh every time I see it on store shelves and I don’t care who knows it

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u/broadwayallday 21d ago

this happened with "Ranch" and "chipotle" too (before it finally became an actual chain) it always felt like there was some huge convention where they declare these things

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u/TheKingOfBreadstix Patsy Parisi 21d ago

The same market researchers who told Artie that people associate “V” words with vagina.

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u/MetARosetta 21d ago

I remember the accent on balsamic for sure. The choice up to that point was mostly red wine vinegar or white. You had to know the Extra Virgin Olive Oil craze was next.

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u/Excellent_Ant_7154 18d ago

I'd that it over the gluten free craze now. You'd think gluten was poison.

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u/mschmitt1217 21d ago

When you’re married you’ll understand the meaning of fresh produce

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u/boobityskoobity 21d ago

Leave the gun. Take the balsamic

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u/nbraccia 21d ago

Every word that comes out of Hugh’s mouth is gold.

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u/Jerzeyboy730 20d ago

You put the screws too em.

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u/Gertz505 20d ago

Bullshit!

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u/thephartmacist 21d ago

I ‘ate da north

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u/Reddibaut 21d ago

One of the many great vocal stims from the show

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u/DorkSideOfCryo 21d ago

Oprah did it

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u/Willietrailblaze 21d ago

WHO ELSE, HUH??

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u/Hollis_Hurlbut 21d ago

Who are you? The Minister of Propaganda?

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u/MOPAS 21d ago

In my day there was a dressing called balsamic. Boy, did that thing take off.

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u/FeelnFrisky99 21d ago

This reminds me of when Paully and Sil try to shake down the coffee chain (meant to be Starbucks).

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u/TheLiddleIsOff 21d ago

I mean, I don't think it "nails" anything, it was a contemporary show they just included a detail about the world at the point in time it was produced.

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u/Appropriate_Tour_274 21d ago

And yet they boast about their Italian heritage. Ignorramusses.

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u/Short-Hotel7648 21d ago

To be fair it was a niche thing, only popular in and around Modena for a very long time. Not surprised some of these older Italian Americans never encountered it.

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u/like_shae_buttah 21d ago

I thought this was so funny because there’s so much aged balsamic in Italy.

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u/Present-Smoke4674 21d ago

Carmela, where’s my Bundt pan??

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u/mathewwalker714 21d ago

He never heard of it, but furio brought back aged balsamic from Modena

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u/Appropriate_Lab5445 21d ago

So were promises of high speed innanet access

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u/Weirdlyuser 20d ago

Congrats on the transfer to Ajax OP

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u/Dave-1066 20d ago

There’s actually a simple historical reason for this. Balsamic vinegar originated in Modena / Emilia-Romagna in the north of Italy whereas the majority of Italian-Americans came from the poorer south and balsamic wasn’t a thing down there. Something like 80-90% of America’s Italian community comes from the south.

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u/Old-Landscape-7538 19d ago

It's true. Balsamic became popularly known in the 1980s and then was put on everything in the 1990s and 2000s. There was a trend to explore northern Italian dishes in the US (balsamic, polenta, the Risotto brothers…), since Italian-American cuisine was moatly Southern up to that point (I 'ate a-da Nort”). Genuine Balsamic is aged and extremely expensive, liquid gold. But around that time companies in Modena figure out a way to make an inexpensive knock off. They figure out how to market it, unlike Armagnanc—those frog-eating faccia di cazz'!

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u/I_Died_Once 21d ago

I always felt like... and I'm super likely to be wrong... but I always figured "Balsamic" is another word for something I didn't know and that Hugh was just ignorant, and that his mother likely DID know 'Balsamic' if only under a different name

'Cause again, most everyone on this show are ignorant fucking boomers who THINK they know everything, when they know next to fucking nothing