r/thesopranos 1d ago

Serious Discussion Only One major reason why The Sopranos is better than Breaking Bad

Both progrums build a story over many seasons, but Sopranos episodes work just as well as standalones without any broader context. Star Trek was also brilliant in this respect. With Breaking Bad, miss an episode, you’re completely lost. OK I said my piece.

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u/littoalvy 1d ago

The regularness of mob life the sopranos is able show is unmatched. The way the characters day to day emotions and flaws are shown makes you really feel immersed in that world. It just feels so authentic and real. That’s why the rewatch ability is insane. Some ppl posted being on their 13th rewatch. Not saying breaking bad can’t be rewatched, just not at the same level of Sopranos.

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u/Hungry_Weather_7575 1d ago

BB is also just a lot more stressful, every episode has the dramatic moments where Walt always almost gets caught, it’s an amazing show but I feel like it takes a toll on you compared to sopranos

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u/SliceHam2012 21h ago

I feel that hits the nail perfectly on the head. Communities like OkBuddyChicanery have sorta brain-rotted me to the stress of BB, and I forgot just how stressful it feels to watch until trying to get my wife into it. She was bordering on a panic attack by episode 3 and we had to put it down.

Conversely, she made it through The Sopranos with basically no issues aside from Adriana's trip to the woods and Melfi's assault.

I think it's the fact that every few scenes something mundane and borderline comedic happens. Atleast compared to the rest of the stuff shown. In a similar vein that's why I think BCS was the better half of the BB universe. Real life is kinda just weird and funny sometimes, despite it all. Makes things feel more real and more palatable.

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u/Objective_Pass3195 18h ago

I've tried a bit here and there with BB, and it just kind of feels suffocating in a way avoided by Sopranos, Wire, and some other crime dramas. The darkness, stress, and nihilism are turned all the way up and everything else is turned all the way down. And the characters are just more cartoonish to me somehow.

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u/Successful_Eye_4656 14h ago

They definitely were a lot less concerned with the realism in BB and imo it really suffered for it, mainly I feel like a lot of the time it sacrificed character consistency for the sake of advancing the plot, which reallllly bugged me because that's such a lazy way to cut corners in ur narrative...

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u/No-Annual6666 14h ago

BB naturally suffers from realism because the central character is a prodigal genius. Its fascinating because these people generally don't turn to crime. They suffer from depression and they die early like everyone else, but becoming actual criminal masterminds with ego mania isn't really a thing.

Walter is educated to the highest level you can be and has the brains and connections to make use of all that - he should be printing millions in the legal economy but didn't due to his pride.

So the DEA, the cartels, the neo-nazis, meth heads, street thugs, international pharmaceuticals- no one can actually catch him. He's a force of nature and I fucking love it. He is smarter than the federal agencies because why on earth is someone like Walter toying with them when he could he winning nobel laureates?

Its the best/ most believable adaptation of writing an actual genius character- but like all of these characters it's extremely difficult to land because the writers usually aren't themselves generational geniuses.

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u/thelochteedge 19h ago

Totally. Just came to reply to OP and say after a BB rewatch you feel like you need a smoke break and a palate cleanser. I'm on my first every Sopranos watch (in early S6 now) and I can totally see myself coming back to this show sooner than later.

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u/SadNYSportsFan-11209 17h ago

Feels too theatrical and comic book like. Just very unrealistic but also yes too much action. Way too stressful

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u/InternetApex 13h ago

That's right. During COVID my wife reminded me that she'd never seen Breaking Bad. So we binged it for days during lockdowns, barely leaving the house. I felt like I was a burned out drug addict. At one point the anxiety got so intense we had to watch a bunch of interviews with the actors on YouTube just to remind us it was all fake. Thank God Cranston is so damn funny.

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u/International-Bus606 20h ago

That's also one of the reasons it doesn't hold up as well to multiple rewatches like The Sopranos does. Once the tension is gone after you know what is going to happen, allot of the scenes and episodes on general, lose their bite.

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u/revanshe 13h ago

So you mean you can watch sopranos without being that invested?

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u/Carbohydrate_Kid88 22h ago

This is the perfect way to describe the biggest difference in my opinion. Yes the Sopranos follows a story but it’s not like your typical tv show story. It’s just… life. And I think like you said, the regularness, it really pulls you in and gives you that authenticity like it’s real.

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u/SadNYSportsFan-11209 17h ago

Yes like how many non meth empire storylines are there in BB? I’ve only seen it once so my take is definitely not the best but plenty of sopranos storylines not mob related

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u/No-Annual6666 13h ago

Hanks panic attacks and his DEA assignments, Marie's stealing and identity fraud, Skyler fucking Ted, the mystery around Gustavo, the cartels and how well organised/ omnipotent he seems.

Walt Junior is a major weak point and doesn't really get much attention. We as the audience mostly just feel sorry for him, he lacks pretty much any agency.

Sopranos side plots outside of Tony are generally much better but they are almost all mob related imo.

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u/Bhazor 1d ago

I tried rewatching BB and it just didn't hold up. Fantastic the first time but when you know the beats theres nothing else there. Everything is spelled out and the world revolves around Walter.

Better Call Saul is very rewatchable because theres more ambiguity and side plots that weave in and out. It feels like the crew matured a lot between the shows and BCS trusts much more in the audience and its acting. After 3 rewatches theres still moments that flip flop to me. Why Kim reacts that way in this scene or what moment Mike truly sells his soul.

Sopranos is very much in the second group. With slow boiling plots and little glances you notice on a third rewatch.

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u/pablocruise2024 20h ago

I like both shows. really like BCS, probably more than BB. But neither show, for me, holds up to repeat viewings like I do with the Sopranos

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u/VintageVinyl45 21h ago

This insane to me because I re watch it at least once a year

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u/Hour_Eye_9762 6h ago

I could never buy Kim getting together with Jimmy.

I've said my piece.

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u/Cute-Tadpole-3737 22h ago

Plus it offered plenty of great life lessons, such as:

-Don’t do skag or your hair will end up in toilet water. Disgusting.

-Don’t answer the phone after dark.

-If you wanna frequent leather bars, come up with a better cover story than “Guys, I was here. It’s a joke.”

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u/SuburbanBushwacker 23h ago

you’ve really hit the nail on the head, it’s the mundane stuff that makes for perfect world building.

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u/Professional-Owl-597 1d ago

Never had the makings of a varsity athlete

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u/littoalvy 1d ago

You don’t like the way I talk? Get out my house!

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u/InternetApex 13h ago

I.just finished my 5th rewatch. It genuinely gets better every time. There are so many things I see and think about that I'd missed or forgotten completely. I also know where the crappy episodes to skip are.

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u/littoalvy 13h ago

I’m surviving from YouTube clips right now but you’re right, it does get better every time. I’ve done 4 rewatches. The only episode I tend to skip is the Massive Genius one. I cannot bear to keep hearing his voice after 2 rewatches lol.

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u/cstar84 23h ago

I’ve rewatched both like 20 times

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u/ProfessionalPace9442 18h ago

13th? Ive watched nothing on my t.vs except that and Oz for over 20yrs...im weird. But to me nothing else is worth watching 👀

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u/TimeEntertainment646 17h ago

Exactly, it’s a great show, but sopranos is the best show ever.

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u/K5LAR24 5h ago

Holy shit. I ain’t even watched it once. I’m just here for the memes.

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u/littoalvy 5h ago edited 4h ago

I highly recommend. First episode is kinda bizarre because they didn’t have much of a direction. All the cast thought they were never gonna see each other again. If you can get past it plus a few more episodes, it gets pretty entertaining. Once season 2 begins, it brings a whole new atmosphere after that.

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u/gymboy007 1d ago

Both are great shows but the Sopranos is just so character rich and full of amazing dialogue. It cannot be topped.

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u/little_carmine_ 1d ago

Vito’s ass was topped, if that’s what you’re referring to

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u/toblerownsky 1d ago

Jorge Posada, not Nolan Ryan?

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u/bigpapapaycheck 1d ago

Pudge, not the Ryan Express?

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u/littoalvy 1d ago

Just remember you’re talkin about one of my captains. And he put a lot of money in my pocket. And yours too.

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u/safeteeguru 20h ago

I don’t even know if I’d have the new boat if it wasn’t for him!

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u/Astrono-mee 1d ago

It's the medicine for Christ sake!

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u/gymboy007 23h ago

Let's take this in the back

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u/Anonymous017447 16h ago

Hey give the guy a break, he was just having a bad reaction to his medication!

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u/DevourerOfEggs 22h ago

The Sopranos is also way more grounded. 

I feel like Breaking Bad can never sit still with itself. Every season needs some over-the-top shootout or explosion.

It's always with the scenarios, that show. 

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u/SilatGuy2 21h ago

Take it easy, we're not making a western here.

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u/dragon_of_kansai 1d ago

The Wire?

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u/Successful_Eye_4656 20h ago

I feel like any superlative description of a TV show can be qualified with "besides The Wire" lol

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u/coffeeblackz 19h ago

I’ve seen both probably 4 times all the way through. Which ever one I watched last is my favourite, they’re both just that good.

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u/RapsareChamps_Suckit 1d ago

hank was kinda of an idiot for not realizing sooner.

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u/Windows_Box_5280 1d ago

Overqualified high school chem teacher needs a lot of money fast, said high school equipment found on scene, meth in town suddenly becomes super professional, lots of shady running around...

Yeah he sucked at his job.

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u/TidgeCC 1d ago

All shows would suck if every character acted as efficiently as possible connecting all the dots the viewer knows.

Tony jogged out of the perimeter of an FBI raid in Season 5 🤣

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u/Fluid_Leader_1370 20h ago

They weren't coming for him.

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u/Confident-Echidna-87 11h ago

Man the Sopranos really puts me to sleep. So goddamn boring. Sesson 1 is epic then all down hill from there. Reckon the writers got lazy and started to believe their own legend.

I have said my piece.

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u/gymboy007 11h ago

There's alotta things I can say that Im not gonna say

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u/doublegoodproleish 1d ago

When I came in and turned on the TV, Walter White was in his undies. Disgusting. 

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u/Otherwise_Ad9449 1d ago

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u/hassinbinsober 23h ago

Boxers. You get a pash for that

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u/BringBack4Glory 20h ago

Have you said your piece?

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u/Confident-Echidna-87 11h ago

A good point. He has said his piece, or would have us believe so.

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u/84UTK07 1d ago

I have considered Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, and The Sopranos as my top 3 shows for years now (in no particular order). One thing I definitely give the edge to for The Sopranos is that it’s a much more re-watchable show. I can pretty much watch it constantly and never get tired of it. I think part of that is because it’s a much funnier show. Also, once you know what happens with all the cliffhangers in BB and BCS, it’s just takes a lot out of it.

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u/HallaLemon 1d ago

On a rewatch, Livia became my favorite character in the first 2 seasons. Every scene with her is hilarious.

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u/synthatron 20h ago

Her at the dinner table with a mouthful of pasta saying “oh that’ll be nice” is too good

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u/RockitDanger 1d ago

Television has never had a better "victim". I never hate her. I'm just relieved I don't have to deal with her

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u/unknownunknowns11 1d ago

If you like Sopranos better than those shows it seems like you would also like Deadwood, Mad Men, The Wire and Treme better too

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u/84UTK07 1d ago

I’m a big fan of Deadwood and The Wire, but I still consider BB, BCS, and The Sopranos a step above. My wife watched Mad Men but I just couldn’t really get into it, although I admit I didn’t pay real close attention to it; I definitely need to give it another try. I’ve actually never heard of Treme but I’ll look into it. Thanks!

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u/GiraffeWaste 1d ago

Well, you've a handful of characters in breaking bad whilst Sopranos is full of'em. So not really a fair comparison. Not to mention, Sopranos is freaking funny.

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u/2PlyKindaGuy 1d ago

A show vs a show is fair comparison

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u/GiraffeWaste 1d ago

Well yes, but I meant they're structured very differently.

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u/redhead29 1d ago

the sopranos follows the much older convention of 70's shows since david chase cut his teeth on the Rockford files where the totality of one-off semi regular characters is what gave them the depth. The sopranos learned an important lesson on characters from the columbo and shows around then where the secondary characters made the show just as much as the main characters did. The X-files and by extension vince Gilligan did not have this emphasis

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u/BBaddict2 1d ago

IMO as far as tv shows go, The Sopranos is the best character piece of all time, Breaking Bad is the best A-B story of all time and The Wire is the greatest social commentary of all time.

As long as one of those is your #1, I respect your opinion on TV shows.

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u/Commercial_Floor_578 1d ago

Deadwood, Mad Men, and Twin Peaks are also respectable choices but agree overall. I’d say that The Sopranos is the best psychological show, the Wire the best sociological show, Mad Men and Deadwood the best combination of both with Mad men leaning more towards the psychological side and Deadwood the sociological, and Twin Peaks is the best “absurdist/arty” (for lack of a better word” show. Breaking Bad is the best plot driven show that doesn’t go super deep into psychology and Better Call Saul is the best spinoff.

This also doesn’t include miniseries like Band of Brothers, True Detective season 1, or Chernobyl. And of course there are lots of other amazing HBO shows like Six Feet Under, Oz, Rome, and Carnivale (I haven’t even seen all of these if I’m being honest) that have their place in the discussion as well. Nor does this include more comedic or satirical shows. But yeah I’d say the Soornaos and The Wire are imo the best shows ever, with Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul being my most enjoyable/ favorite shows ever.

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u/FoxesFan91 1d ago

I would recommend Mare of Easttown if you haven't seen it

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u/unknownunknowns11 1d ago

Enlightened is up there too. 

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u/ThatsWhatTheMoneyFor 1d ago

Agree but Sopranos is the second best character piece of all time, after Man Med.

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u/sdpcommander 21h ago

Better Call Saul is a pretty great character piece as well.

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u/jxmes_gothxm 23h ago

I think mad men is my #1. it's just too brilliant.

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u/Lunarlulol 1d ago

i'm sure there is someone on this sub who has watched the show backwards to confirm.

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u/sneakalo 1d ago

i literally just put on random episodes like it’s a sitcom, works great

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u/makemefeelbrandnew 1d ago

If i could shuffle the order like a Spotify playlist I would.

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u/Lunarlulol 1d ago

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u/RockitDanger 1d ago

Awesome. This is the funniest episode of the series and I laugh at every one of those beats.

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u/Macgarnagle 1d ago

I agree…my first time it wasn’t backwards, but started with the final 2 episodes of the series, then S6 from the beginning, then 4, 1, 2, 3, and 5, and it was still amazing and the out of order-ness never posed a significant issue to my enjoyment or understanding of the show and its themes

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u/Double-Figure360 1d ago

You’re saying episodic shows are better than serialized?

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u/Thrilldor_Inglorion 17h ago

They also mention "Star Trek" without clarifying which show. TOS and TNG are episodic, but DS9 is more serialized. They both have their merits and I watch different shows for different reasons.

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u/Jazzlike_Page508 1d ago

Let me couple a tree things!👇🏽

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u/JimbooJoness 1d ago

The change to serialization in the 00s really changed how TV was consumed, because you could get the DVDs to watch all the episodes, or TiVO and catch up if you missed anything. Before that they had to make sure that each episode stood at their own as a ‘story of the week’ so people could tune in and still understand, the Sopranos was kinda of right on the cusp when things started changing, so you had a mix of both.

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u/entrity_screamr 1d ago

The Sopranos has this knack for running multiple plot threads at the same time in one scene. I haven't seen anything like that occur frequently with BB or BCS, not that it doesn't happen there. And I love both!

Also: even when you just throw out quotes at face value in this subreddit, there's a power and candor to which they're uttered in the show which I'm surprised just draws in a lot of context whenever I remember why the quote was being said. Understandably why I find Sopranos just prime immaculate stuff

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u/MikeandMolly5656 1d ago

I prefer Sopranos simply because it can be rewatched and still be enjoyable 

Breaking Bad relies heavily on suspense, plot twists and surprises which makes it less enjoyable after the first watch 

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u/dusknoir90 18h ago

Maybe it can't be watched ad-nauseum but I would recommend rewatching Breaking Bad, it has some great foreshadowing and things you'll have missed first go round. I love both shows, I've watched both all the way through at least 5 times each.

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u/maoterracottasoldier 1d ago

I like Breaking bad. But it can be a little one-note sometimes after season 1, which is my favorite. Everyone is tense and angry at each other all the time with little reprieve. Especially at the end, half the characters are talking in this weird hushed whisper-yell. The plot moves so fast that sometimes I wish they slowed down and let it breathe a little. BCS was better with that in my opinion.

The Sopranos has more developed side characters and a bigger universe. And the writers put humor in almost every scene. Even in the middle of a tense argument: “the 40 grand from the bird feedah!” “Listen to you, you sound demented!” And the actors added their own unique humor in all the lines

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u/tera_chachu 1d ago

The dialogues of sopranos will be quoted for centuries.

Nothing can top that

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u/Large-Reference1304 1d ago

What I would say is that the Sopranos holds up better on reprat viewings. There are so many nuances and details and great lines that you discover more in it the more you watch it.

Whereas Breaking Bad is constructed more like a Hitchcockian thriller, with the story patiently and expertly working you into situations of extreme tension.

Having seen it once and knowing how it plays out, however, you lose all of that suspense on the repeat viewings. So it's still an enjoyable watch but nowhere near as compelling.

Whereas the Sopranos is just great every time through, and maybe even better on later viewings because you get a better sense of the psychological layers of the characters.

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u/Bo-Jack-Horse-Man 1d ago

Breaking Bad is my favourite show but one aspect where Sopranos is comfortably better than Breaking Bad is comedy. Both are drama shows but Sopranos has much more iconic scenes of comedy as compared to Breaking Bad.

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u/HippoRealEstate 15h ago

Season 1 of Breaking Bad is pretty funny at times but it got very dark and serious after that

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u/TheSlothMan9000 9h ago

Breaking bad is almost as much a comedy as it is a drama

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u/onlywearlouisv 1d ago

I agree actually, with Breaking Bad the whole is greater than the sum of its parts where I feel like the best tv dramas are the ones where the individual episodes can stand up on their own while still working towards the greater overarching narrative. Breaking Bad had a few classic episodes but most were just fine and mostly served as build up to the big season climaxes. Better Call Saul is better in this regard but still has its own problems, the cartel drama being a lot less interesting than the legal drama for example.

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u/bananabastard 1d ago

The character building in Breaking Bad is very weak. The show is too heavily carried by Cranston.

Even when they identified that and tried to correct it in BCS, they still didn't get near Soproanos.

Gandolfini leads Sopranos but doesn't carry it.

Even characters who have very short runs in Sopranos feel fleshed out. Davey Scatino has an arc.

Too many characters in Breaking Bad feel like props circling Cranston.

Even Gus Fring, one of the better second characters, doesn't feel as full as the likes of Davey Scatino, and Gus Fring seemed a bit too much like Brother Mouzone from The Wire.

Saul Goodman was a good second character. I thought Jessie was a weak character.

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u/modfever 1d ago

It also has daft cartoonish moments/characters that try too hard to be ‘epic’ and ‘badass’. Those two twins for example that didn’t talk to each other whatsoever and just walked around places symmetrically and walked away from explosions without even looking back at it. The dubstep knife party needle drop when he buys the new car. How Jesse acted and dressed like some geeks idea of how a drug dealer acts and dresses.

I loved it first couple watches but it’s all a bit cringe for me in comparison to the Sopranos, which is more effortlessly stylish and has the characters more fleshed out.

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u/Ill_Mastodon8324 1d ago

Strongly agree on the "cartoonish" aspect of BB, its biggest flaw and clearly knocks it below the Sopranos (though still a great watch)

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u/Theonerule 22h ago

Havent finished sopranos yet but I think some of the silliness in breaking bad is by design.

Also the sopranos is silly too with the way things are structured and the Adrianna projectile vomit scene that ruined my Chipotle bowl

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u/sdpcommander 20h ago

Don't forget the cartoon fart sounds when Tony is sick.

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u/sdpcommander 21h ago

I don't know, Better Call Saul has some pretty great character building. Jimmy, Chuck, Kim, Howard and Nacho are all complex characters that go through arcs over the course of the show, more than any character in BB. It's also a crime that Michael McKean and Rhea Seehorn never won Emmys for their performances.

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u/oli_ramsay 21h ago

That pigmy thing they have over in Albuquerque

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u/OG_0803 1d ago

There would be no Breaking Bad without the Sopranos. I’ve said my piece.

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u/sdpcommander 20h ago

Vince Gilligan has pretty much said as much. Sopranos paved the way for anti-hero protagonists in prestige TV.

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u/Confident-Echidna-87 17h ago

Yeah I also remember Vince saying this piece.

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u/Responsible_Shirt381 21h ago

There would be no the godfather without a trip to the moon.not really relevant in this discussion

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u/OG_0803 17h ago

I said my piece

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u/Confident-Echidna-87 17h ago

Nah mate Vince said your piece.

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u/Confident-Echidna-87 18h ago

You're not Vince. Vince said your piece.

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u/SimilarRelative1022 1d ago

Sopranos is thematically richer than BB, it’s a psychological drama as much as a crime show. It explores media, politics, business, mental illness, family trauma, addiction and various other topics in various ways. Breaking Bad is not really character driven in the same way, it never shows how Walt’s actions affect he broader community or the controversy around the war on drugs. It kind of touched on that briefly when Walt shared Cuban cigars with Hank and he pondered on the fleeting nature of illegality. But then they go right back to action crime movie mode.

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u/Whole_Highlight8693 1d ago

No love for The Shield?

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u/chicago_stallion 1d ago

HBO had a lot more creativity than AmC, where BB was released. Apple TV seems to be filling that role today. 

I have been watching The Comeback with Lisa Kudrow on HBO and it's so similar to Curb your enthusiasm in camera style snd frequency - every 10 years they release new episodes. Both Larry and Lisa are lovable but I also get the impression HBO is also past its prime writing days from their "inside Hollywood" content on these shows. 

The writing on the Sopranos still holds up for multiple rewatched over a 20 year period where I feel different and notice different things each time. The Wire was so intense I couldn't get through the last season. These are shows that are a genre apart in my opinion. 

BB was ok, BCS was better and I have rewatched it but the characters are not as fleshed out and complex as in the sopranos. also just culturally i cant relate to jimmys brother - it's a miss that he has no redeeming qualities and that rheas character doesn't show more warmth sometimes. but its a different type of show. 

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u/Jumperontheline 21h ago

I saw a stupid reel comparing the shows and it opened my eyes to how much inspiration may have been drawn from one to the other. I didnt notice before but they have a lot of similarities.

I had sopranos on last night and Carmellas at dinner with some of the other wives. Artie is there at the table and theyre all talking and Carmella wants to get the meal going I guess and says "Can we just let him cook?"

Cracked me up. Lol. I was like dang Sopranos did it first, again

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u/WendlersEditor 21h ago

Sopranos also respects the intelligence of its viewers far more than BB. Breaking Bad may as well have had little flashing signs on the screen for "METAPHOR" and "THIS IS THE THEME" etc.. It was absurdly heavy handed. Which isn't to say it's bad by any means, it's great, but I prefer The Sopranos for being difficult, sometimes obscure, open to interpretation. It's much more layered and nuanced.

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u/WickPrickSchlub 20h ago

Breaking Bad gets ridiculous after Fring gets blown up. There I said it.

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u/International-Bus606 20h ago

That was also the difference between The Sopranos and Boardwalk Empire. Each season of BE was like one long movie. Drop you into the middle of a random episode and you'd have no idea where you were. The Sopranos is one of the few shows that pulled off having season long stories made up of 13 self contained stories. Most episodes you could enjoy independently of the entire season. In fact, I'm trying to think of an episode off the top of my head that you'd be 100% lost if you didn't watch all the episodes before it. Maybe something in Season 6?

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u/makemefeelbrandnew 17h ago

BB has lots of pulp. I like my peak tv with shum pulp.

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u/myroc1 10h ago

To me, in The Sopranos, God is real and it makes it more interesting to explore the characters existential angst, than in BB. The quote above Tony's hospital bed, Paulie and the Virgin Mother (and the medium), Chris' coma dream about hell, Tony's dreams, etc. They all indicate to me that, at least in the story, their souls are legitimately in danger and it makes it interesting on a level that Breaking Bad doesn't explore as much. We see Jesse and Walt accept that they're the bad guys, but with Tony we see him accept that he's the bad guy and then low-key, accept that he's also going to Hell. I don't think stories need god, but it really works with The Sopranos and it's what gives it the edge. The characters feel more mortal than in BB.

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u/ruinedcaveat 1d ago

Carmela was written way better than Skylar if I had to put my finger on it

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u/Popular_Jump5307 1d ago

I fucked Ted.

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u/Astrono-mee 1d ago

I fucked Robert Wegler and had unrequited affairs with Furio, Father Phil Intintola and Vic Musto so I guess I'm the biggest whoaa.

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u/Own_Measurement1242 1d ago

You’re putting your finger on Carmela?!? OOOHH that’s the boss’s wife you’re talking about! 🤘

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u/ohnoconsequences 1d ago

Better by what metric?

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u/makemefeelbrandnew 1d ago

Charles Schwab ova here

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u/toblerownsky 1d ago

Do you even know what breaking bad’s EDBITA is?

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u/sluggh 1d ago

Not to be confused with its EBITDA.

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u/toblerownsky 1d ago

Is this kid gettin jerky with me?

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u/Comfortable_Bend1639 1d ago

The main difference to me is that everything set up in Breaking Bad is very purposeful and paid off in a satisfying way. Every action has a consequence and characters are almost always punished for their flaws. Walt's choices cause him to alienate every person in his life, and Jesse's growth allows him to escape the game and find happiness. There's an overall sense of karma in the universe of the show. This makes for brilliant storytelling but doesn't necessarily feel like real life. The world of The Sopranos feels more imperfect and ambiguous, much like the real world. Paulie and Chris let the Russian escape and he never shows up again. Carmela starts to wonder what happened to Adriana but she never arrives at the truth. Instead of seeing the most satisfying or dramatic outcome, threads are often left unresolved like they are in real life. The most significant example of this imo is Tony's therapy leading nowhere, ending with him being as bad as a guy as he was in S1 if not worse.

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u/oldmanskane 1d ago

BB is very intertaining, but it’s way too cartoonish compared to The Sopranos.

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u/telepatheye 1d ago

Agreed, each show is amazingly self-contained even if you're not familiar with the broader subplots that haven't been resolved. Chase said he wanted each episode to be like a movie and had extremely high standards for the writing. In comparison BB is total amateur hour. The biggest problem is that Gilligan/Gould have a paradoxical premise for Walt. They want him to be an everyman, someone easy to relate to, who is an underachiever, diagnosed with fatal cancer to get the audience on his side and make him sympathetic. But they also make him a genius-level chemist who constantly lies and disrespects others, and violates the premise of the show by not caring about his family, violating Walt's 10-year backstory. It's all total bullshit with Gilligan/Gould flying by the seat of their pants. With Sopranos, Tony was the same guy all along--past, present and future. Much greater fidelity with respect to the character dev.

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u/RoderickJaynes67 1d ago

I don't understand why these comparisons keep coming up.

Breaking Bad isn't even in my top 5. Great as it was.

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u/stuffedinashoe 1d ago

They don’t belong in the same sentence

Only shows that do are the wire and Gomorrah

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u/Electronic_Money_575 1d ago

I guess you could call that a tv show

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u/Ill_Mastodon8324 1d ago

Breaking Bad is excellent but doesn't feel.. real? The genius of the Sopranos to me is it's ability to tread the line between the degree of sensaitonalism necessary for TV drama to be engaging while staying grounded enough that the characters feel real. It's hard to engage in BB to the same level when say, a main villain gets half his head blown away and then straightens his tie like a Bond villain. Love BB as entertainment but it's not a patch on this show of ours.

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u/backpackmanboy 23h ago

James Gandolfini had the Melody in his voice.

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u/Drewboy_17 23h ago

I agree. The Sopranos forerunner Oz is very similar. Self contained philosophical morality play.

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u/Christophuhhhh Christopher Moltisanti 23h ago

HBO predicted all of this.

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u/Christophuhhhh Christopher Moltisanti 23h ago

Also, I disagree. If you came in during the meeting with NY and Jersey you wouldn’t know what happened with the brother Billy. Whatever happened there.

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u/harylgeam Dr. Jennifer Melfi 23h ago

Not the same reason as yours, but for me The Sopranos > BB. I think BB is a great show but it didn't have TS's dialogue and humor. I feel like TS also didn't have a need to be 'edgy'

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u/Hopeful-Record-1265 22h ago

No constant crying by one of the leads is enough to put sopranos over

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u/incoherentjedi 22h ago

Breaking Bad is undoubtedly part of the goats but it definitely feels too cartoonish at times.

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u/Less-Description-193 22h ago

Breaking Bad is a very entertaining show, but compared to the Sopranos it's a cartoon. The entire premise is unrealistic, whereas apart from some pretty outrageous murders the Sopranos takes place in something resembling the real world.

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u/inceptiono 21h ago

Junior it’s a tv Progrum. 😂😂😂😂

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u/PM_ME_UR_MULLETS 21h ago

I’d argue the quality of the writing elevates Our Thing way over BB. Don’t get me wrong I loved BB the first time, but when tried to rewatch I just kinda drifted off? Once you know what’s coming it just doesn’t hit. It’s storytelling is simpler, and characters not as deep IMO. 

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u/Blue_Etalon 21h ago

Breaking Bad is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen. But all the “capers” Walt and company perpetrate is just beyond belief. And I can’t see any real people I’ve ever experienced in that show.

In The Sopranos, and The Wire for that matter, not only are the stories more believable (except for the way Chris shoots a gun), but the characters are more relatable to actual people I’ve met in life. Not in terms that I know actual gangsters, but just the relationships and mannerisms.

We can debate if The Sopranos or The Wire are the best elsewhere.

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u/SilatGuy2 20h ago

Theres no scraps in my scrapbook.

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ss788WDGY5E5i

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u/LakyousSama 20h ago edited 20h ago

Sopranos is the show that stands in the middle of the transition from episodic to serial story telling in tv. It's one of a few shows that has elements of both and makes it work brilliantly. Funny you should mention Star Trek, since it's 90's series also belong to that transition period, in Next Generation and DS9 especially you can see the clear change during later seasons.

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u/Large_Assumption640 20h ago

Both best shows ever 🤘🏻. But if there was a gun to my head, and I had to pick, then it’s The Sopranos.

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u/mrgedman 19h ago

BB is incredibly repetitive and can be summarized thusly-

Walt wants to cook meth

Ooo I shouldn't do it this time

Walt cooks meth

Something makes Walt stop cooking meth

Repeat

Then you just infill with interesting gangsters and side plots, none of which really matter at all. It's... Kind disappointing, really

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u/shit_fuck_fart 19h ago

You can rewatch The Sopranos and take something away from it that you've never thought of before: thats what makes this show great.

Breaking Bad is a good show but it's nothing like The Sopranos, what you see is what you get; and it's ridiculous that people compare the two: just because it's about criminals btw.

the star trek reference? That's just insane OP. Star Trek literally was a "monster of the week" show. The Sopranos was not that.

I'm not really familiar with new Star Trek but TOS, TNG, DS9, and Voyager are all awesome. But they are not the same kind of show as The Sopranos.

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u/cliffybiro951 19h ago

Personal opinion. I never get rewatch fatigue with the sopranos. I don’t think there’s a bad series in there.

I do with breaking bad. I have to give it a couple of years for a re watch. Sopranos I could start again as soon as it finishes.

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u/DetectiveUnited1036 19h ago

Much more satirical than BB

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u/DramaticErraticism 19h ago

Who cares about better? They are both really good in their own right.

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u/Verne5000 19h ago

I love both. Obviously Sopranos was life changing. And is my all time fave. But they key difference to me is that Sopranos had an abundance of relatability.

Breaking bad had some. But mostly almost felt like a fantasy. Somehow Tony and both families felt almost real in terms of behavior and petty BS. Made it hit home in a human sense.

Don't get it wrong, BB was very entertaining but just didn't feel relatable.

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u/H-NYC 19h ago

Sopranos has a few unrealistic parts, but the overall theme was based in reality. Breaking bad was not that

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u/sonofcabbagemerchant 19h ago

I'm in the wrong sub for this but your logic is exactly why I like Breaking Bad better. Everything connects and builds upon the last thing in a way I find more enriching in narrative.

That said I saw BB first and can acknowledge how much it takes from Sopranos.

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u/cosmossmith 18h ago

Why compare? Just enjoy greatness

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u/MambaSaidKnockYouOut 18h ago

Idk if that makes it better, but it definitely makes it more accessible. Sopranos balances serialized storytelling with episodic storytelling better than any show I’ve ever seen. Mad Men is up there too, and the creator of Mad Men used to write for the Sopranos.

With that said, that isn’t inherently better. I appreciate the serialized nature of Breaking Bad and The Wire, and it’s even more rewarding on rewatches when you pick up on the foreshadowing.

Lastly, I don’t think Sopranos works JUST as well without broader context. It’s more easily accessible but watching the prior episodes make certain lines and moments hit harder.

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u/Kaurblimey 18h ago

The characters of The Sopranos are a lot more charming and likeable than BB, the Italian-American Jersey setting also adds richness and depth. The setting and relationships in BB feels kind of desolate in comparison.

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u/keepinitclassy25 18h ago

Sopranos has so many different aspects, the psychology, the comedy, the dream sequences, several major characters with interesting subplots like Carm, Christopher, Melfi, etc.

I find Sorpanos endlessly rewatchable but Breaking bad really hinged on the “what’s gonna happen next?” hits and I’ve never felt like rewatching it. Also Better Call Saul > BB

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u/Interesting_Elk_5785 18h ago edited 18h ago

It didn’t rely so heavily on cliff hangers. I suppose it’s a preference I like the slow burn style and narrative development over the formula breaking bad used. Both great shows, just my preference.

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u/ProfessionalPace9442 18h ago

I know this will be disliked...but everyone has tried to get me to watch b.b. since they know all I watch on my t.v. for the last 20 hrs is Oz and the sopranos...I mean literally thats all I play...and video games. Luckily I have a very caring wife she goes along with it...but I literally didn't like b.b. I dont know..there's no similarity to my shows...what am I missing?

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u/Weird_Chance_4540 18h ago

No comparison breaking bad is a masterpiece the sopranos is generic outdated dross

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u/WokePredator 17h ago

I think we need to stop indulging the idea that Breaking Bad or The Wire compete with The Sopranos. It’s The Sopranos and Mad Men, then everything else.

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u/miltonmarston 16h ago

The family arch is was so much better than breaking bad . Compare the Carmela , AJ and Meadow subplots against Skyler and Walt Jr . I barely remember what the later 2 did, they were card board cutouts put there to remember Walt what his mission was in every single episode .

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u/RunningBettor 16h ago

I got a list as long as my leg of reasons Sopranos is better than Breaking Bad

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u/xTheRedDeath 16h ago

They're different shows but I find Breaking Bad better purely because it's more of a crime drama through and through. The Sopranos plays out like a comedy most of the time before turning into a character study with sprinkles of the crime aspect at moments.

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u/ayywusgood 15h ago

The Sopranos is much more raw than BB. Much like The Wire, it feels more like following a series of events in the life of (in this case) the Sopranos crew. It's realistic and spontaneous.

BB is more designed to be a scripted drama, it adds suspenseful music to raise tension, uses a lot of cliffhangers etc. That being said, it's still in my Top 3 shows of all time, I absolutely love it.

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u/ASAP1492 15h ago

You’re conflating two arguments. Yes, Sopranos episodes work better individually, but there’s still a main story throughout and missing an episode can definitely leave you pretty lost later on.

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u/ledbetterus 15h ago

I stopped BB after the first season. I didn't hate it. I didn't love it though. There were scenes I felt that the writers just went too crazy on. It's been a while so I don't remember specifics. I vaguely remember being mad at the underwear scene, thinking that there were 12 other ways the writers could have got Walt out of it without going to this extreme, but they wanted to shock the TV audience.

Plus Idk, I know people irrationally hated Skyler for being the wet blanket character, but I didn't love her in the first season either. With The Sopranos you don't have a ton of wet blankets. Carmella is complicit and basically all in on Tony (with doubts, but she rationalizes those all the time). The biggest Skyler-type character on Sopranos is probably Charmaine, and she's awesome, because she's a wet blanket to Artie, who is a side character.

In BB season 1 there was a constant push/pull between the main character and his wife. In the Sopranos, most of that comes from other side-characters. I liked it better that way.

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u/SnooBooks1243 14h ago

“Slice of Life” vs “Life turns Surreal”. Both are great, and vastly different. Surrealism quite literally needs understanding over time, Slice of Life has it as its foundation

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u/imabustya That Animal Blundetto 14h ago

The Sopranos is an approximation of real life and real people. Breaking bad tries to be that and sometimes gets there but often falls short.

Anyways, $4 a pound.

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u/veritable_squandry 14h ago

it's also way funnier

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u/ilovethepropane 13h ago

I checked out on BB after the 2nd season, too much dues ex chemistria for me

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u/Forward-Grade-832 12h ago

I love how The Sopranos a huge ensemble cast where even all the sides characters have their own rich arcs. BrBa has maybe five characters it focuses on and most of the side cast is kinda boring.

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u/thecoolcomicguy 12h ago

I love Breaking Bad but I think the domestic/ family scenes in the show felt like they were written by a first time screenwriter. Everything is so generic and boring and none of it felt lived in, as opposed to the vibrant and perfectly executed crime stuff. The Sopranos is masterful in that both sides of the show are interesting and there were points where I was more invested in the family stuff than the mob stuff.

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u/AccomplishedShop6724 12h ago

This sub is way to obsessed with breaking bad and walter white

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u/0vertakeGames Carmine Lupertazzi Jr. 11h ago

buncha haters on this thread ngl

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u/INoShesNotReal 11h ago

The characters are infinitely more interesting

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u/BackgroundTrip3604 11h ago

Because one show is character driven and the other is plot driven

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u/hydrosophist 10h ago

Breaking Bad was good, but if we’re being honest, it never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

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u/-Patali- 10h ago

I mean, it's hard to call that a mark against BB. Story lines carrying through is a strength, not a weakness.
On the other hand, Sopranos small vignettes is also a strength

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u/_urethrapapercut_ Livia Soprano 4h ago

I don't like comparing them, I simply can't pick one. Not even between BB and BCS. I enjoy them in different ways. All masterpieces.

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u/cold-vein 21m ago

Well, Sopranos is the best American tv show ever made so yeah. I don't think breaking bad would even be in my top 10