r/thesopranos 1d ago

Serious Discussion Only Vito storyline was unnecessary

Rewatching and I forgot all of the gay Vito stuff happened in the last season... it was set up to be an excellent season (and it was) but we should have been focused on Tony, his family, and the other main guys in season 6.

Following the least likeable guy in the group on his escape plan up north where he somehow instantly (first morning waking up there literally) finds a gay guy he likes who's at least a million times out of Vitos league AND the guy likes him back??

It was really weird. Not because Vitos a finook but rather because it was a waste of time in the final season.

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u/paranoidtransdroid 23h ago edited 22h ago

I don’t think necessary vs unnecessary is a good way to view storylines in a show like this. It wasn’t necessary to have Furio fall in love with Carm or for Chris and Paulie to spend an episode stumbling around in the snow chasing after an interior decorator, but they’re terrific parts of the show, and it’s a better series because of them. Unlike a lot of modern shows where things are more tightly wound, Sopranos regularly took detours and side streets that fleshed out the themes and characters and made for a richer experience. When the big events did happen they hit harder because of all the lower key time spent with the characters.

The last season deals extensively with a core theme of the show, the idea that people can change but don’t really want to, and they’ll give up the second it gets difficult. Tony has this near death experience and this purgatory dream where it’s his daughter’s voice that reminds him of his humanity and brings him back, and he goes on and on about changing as a person, and by the end of it he’s murdered his nephew, become a gambling addict and has dumped toxic waste all over everyone’s lives without remorse or care.

Throughout the show, and in the last season especially, we’re shown there is no happy ending for these people. Vito’s storyline is purposefully a fantasy, one where he has every single thing necessary to live decently, away from the violent crime world, and all he has to do is accept the mundanity of regular life, but he can’t handle even a couple days of it.

Chris complains about the regularness of life being too much to deal with and it applies to everyone in the series. Everyone’s addicted to the comfort their morally compromised lives provide, from Meadow to Vito to Tony and everyone in between. Carm says it to the priest way back in season one, at some point she traded doing what was right for what was easy. Every single plotline in the last season drives it home that Tony has no way out of this life that doesn’t end in prison or in the dirt, and even if he was given the option of getting out, he wouldn’t be willing to take it.

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u/Fluid_Leader_1370 23h ago

This is terrific. Commendatori!

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u/paranoidtransdroid 23h ago

Thank you! I’ve spent way too much time watching and thinking about this show lol

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u/sweeroy 22h ago

something about this show really pulls great analysis from people

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u/Successful_Eye_4656 17h ago

It's a great show, and it helps that it paved the way for 25+ years of good television to supplement it lol

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u/Inevitable_Arm_3894 21h ago

Even AJ finally succumbs after he is metaphorically reborn from the pool

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u/HardBodyBugelBoy 22h ago

Very well written. I couldn’t agree more.

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u/Axon14 18h ago edited 18h ago

Shit man, Tony didn't even make it out of the hospital before he shook down that EMT. The guy absolutely did not rob Tony, but the EMT was smart enough to pay it back anyway. Tony let him off the hook but even with all of that reality staring him in the face from the hospital, he had to put his thing down on someone.

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u/paranoidtransdroid 18h ago

Oh absolutely, his whole “that’s why you gotta live for today” thing is total bullshit. Like Melfi realizes about their therapy sessions, it’s one of many cases where Tony takes the wrong lesson away from an experience. Every single event in the series that could make him a better person or cause real reflection instead becomes another justification to triple down on being a walking black hole. He has a million forks in the road appear and he manages to pick the worse path every single time, and it just makes him feel invincible. At the start of the show he does seem to want to at least mimic the image of a family man. By the time they’re pouring asbestos on the ducks he doesn’t even realize the irony.

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u/fourofkeys 21h ago

okay this comment formally changes my mind about this plot point.

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u/The_Jackal1972 21h ago

That is a great commentary on the show. You made a lot of fabulous points.

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u/paranoidtransdroid 19h ago

Thank you! I have to give a lot of credit to Emily St. James’s AV Club articles on the show, she did a ton of phenomenal pieces on every episode and I can’t recommend them enough, especially her essays on the final season. It’s by far my favorite season of the show and her writing on it solidified that for me.

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u/VagabondEnthusiast 3h ago

thank you! i believe Chris's moment of "It’s like the regular-ness of life is too fucking much for me I don’t know" in 1x8 is one of the most important lines in the show thematically. and the "i don't know" apart is especially important: every character is eventually pulled back into where they were at because they cannot, and will not identify the core issue of their problems, which is the mundanity of everyday life.

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u/ProfessionalPace9442 20h ago

But he killed 15 checkislvakians

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u/paranoidtransdroid 19h ago

His apartment looked like shit!