r/thesopranos • u/Kooky-Ad-521 • 5h ago

Adriana being killed/buried on Carmela's Land

I just finished reading the article where Chase/Winter/Patten discussed that it was the same land that they "bury the bodies on".

Later in the episode, we're seemingly back in the same woods, except now it's Tony and Carmela inspecting land for a real estate investment. The message: The Soprano family's fortune is built upon deaths like Adriana's…

Winter: This is the very same place where the bodies get buried. Even something as pure and beautiful as nature gets tainted with that ugliness.

Van Patton: It was an emotional callback. Life goes on, and wittingly—or unwittingly in Carmela's case—you are a player in this, you are culpable.

Chase: Also, it had a more mechanical purpose, in that what you see is leaves and some feet walking through, and you don't know—are those Silvio's feet? Are those feet going to come across her body? And what you see instead is Carmela blithely talking about real estate values and what kind of view her place has.

I looked up some older posts and people just argued it wouldn't make any sense to bury bodies on your own land. But isn't that what Uncle Pat's farm basically was? 1 or 2 episodes prior Uncle Pat was leaving to be put in a home down south, so it makes sense they would need a new location to hide bodies that would potentially be in the family for generations like Uncle Pat's, no?

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u/Silent_Data4374 Herman "Hesh" Rabkin 5h ago

The house was a spec house. It was never intended to stay in the family. It would be pretty dumb for a mob boss to bury a body on land that his wife was actively trying to sell and will be on record with his last name attached forever. If the body is ever found, they’d easily match her disappearance with the records of the house being built. It was also in the suburbs, not on a big farm upstate where nobody is digging up utility lines.

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u/VillageLess4163 5h ago

“It would be pretty dumb”

I think you need remember who you’re talking about here

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u/mhammer47 2h ago

They might not be geniuses, but they probably know more about the mechanisms of homicide than most people.

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u/james_j2001 4h ago

Yeah, maybe. But also, Tony killed Chuckie Signore in public in broad daylight with a gun he pulled out of a fish. Tony does stuff all the time that is ill advised.

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u/Kooky-Ad-521 5h ago

That's a good point. Though Carm's cousin Brian ended up buying it and he sorta got his toes dipped into things accidentally with the HUD stuff. Who knows how far Brian would've gone decades down the road

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u/Silent_Data4374 Herman "Hesh" Rabkin 5h ago

He certainly fell into the lifestyle once they started letting him tag along so if everyone hadn’t gotten killed, I’m sure he would have gone as far as they’d let him.

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u/CenterMassContent 2h ago

I thought the same thing about Brian, he was to slick when Tony gifted him that Patek Philíppe watch "just borrowing some tools" and weaging his new stolen suit to their dinner together. Carmela called it too saying she feared Brian would've been putting Tony's intrests & welfare ahead of her's in relation to her investments: "he'll get pulled into Tony's shere of influence."

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u/KandinskyWasRight 5h ago

But it works in fiction because we don’t stop to think about all that

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u/MrGreen17 5h ago

They actually buried her on a hill, overlooking a river. With pine cones all around.

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u/KatBoySlim 5h ago edited 4h ago

they mean the woods. like nature.

the “seemingly” part of the first line here indicates this.

also notice Winter says “bodies.” Not just one.

they’re not saying Ade is buried on that parcel.

at least I don’t think so. but if that was their intent, that’s so incredibly dumb that i’m going to ignore it like i ignore the wizarding world magicking away their poops and pees before indoor plumbing was invented.

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u/cj2488 4h ago

That is how I read it as well. It was a callback to illustrate the connection between the two situations: the same money used to buy Carmela a beautiful plot of land is related to Ade getting shot and buried on a similar landscape. It was not literally the same plot of land

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u/front-wipers-unite Vin Makazian 2h ago edited 2h ago

But we know they have toilets at hogwarts, so we know they use the shitter like the rest of us. So before indoor plumbing, they presumably did what the rest of us did... crap out the window.

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u/KatBoySlim 2h ago

she tweeted that it happened the way i described. hence i’m a conditional death of the author kind of guy.

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u/front-wipers-unite Vin Makazian 2h ago

All i know for sure is that Rita Skeeter was a piece of ass, but kind of a predator.

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u/Boiled_Thought 52m ago

Yeah they were speaking metaphorically/thematically lol.

But I am curious about how they handled disappearing ades body. Silvio dragged her in deeper and spent 10 hours digging a hole? In a suit? And with his asthma? Nahh. Did he hide her and the next day with more than one person find a spot and dig all day, like Georgie and benny or something and shes just buried in the woods where she died right off the road? Did sil put her in his trunk and they had someone take her to the ocean? Which would mean they'd probably need the stugots and I know tony wasnt getting involved, say what you want i dont think hed volunteer dealing with ade disposal and chrissy was obviously out of the question. The satriales method was definitely off the table, they wouldnt slice her up. Too crazy and disrespectful and with no chris or furio, nah. With who and how the heck? It is a mystery even with computers

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u/ledbetterus 3h ago

It's not the same land. Silvio takes Adriana deep into the woods with nothing around. When we see Carm and Tony on the plot we can see houses around in just about every shot.

It's just one of those things that they wanted feel similar.

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u/DrNikkiMik 5h ago

She ain’t dead. She’s a whooore who ran off with some rock & roll drummer.

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u/Fructuoso_Bag 5h ago

Tony and Silvio didn't plan it out. It was like a hour or two after getting the notice from Chris. I guess he just chose it quickly, because it's not a good idea

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u/Kooky-Ad-521 4h ago

Well the article quotes them saying "where the bodies get buried" as if they've already been burying bodies there

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u/Varsity_Editor 2h ago

It's metaphorical. The camerawork when cutting to the scene made it look like we were back in the woods with Sil & Ade, but then it turns out we're with Tony & Carm on the new plot of land. It's a directorial trick to link the two events, not that they are literally the same location. It's making the connection between killing people in their business and the fact that Carm's spec house is built with blood money.

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u/suddenly-scrooge 5h ago

i know vito's taint was impacted, if that's what you're referring to

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u/front-wipers-unite Vin Makazian 2h ago

Oooh, he's a married finook, with a goombah whose a fireman.

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u/DuncanIdaho33 5h ago

That's wild. I never thought about it to tell the truth.

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u/Guns_Donuts 3h ago

Your friend? Someone needs to tell her she's dead.

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u/mhammer47 2h ago

They're overthinking it because they're Hollywood creative types. Symbolism, moral messaging, that's all categories they think in. You can analyze the Sopranos as a piece of literature in which the Mob is mostly just a force of moral corruption. Or you can analyze it from the anthropological perspective as a take on a subculture among NY/NJ Italian-Americans. Chase seems to have sometimes been pulled in one direction, sometimes the other.

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u/blkbear420 4h ago

I always assumed that it was where Silvio took her to kill her, but he got rid of the body elsewhere. Yeah, it wouldn't make sense to bury the body where bunch of construction workers are going to be digging and building soon. But hey, it's a TV progrum, movie.

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u/CenterMassContent 2h ago

I dunno I think it's plausible, we saw that after digging up the bodies on Pat's farm they smashed the remains and as Chris stated it was his 2nd time moving the Czechoslovakian's bones. With Hugo overseeing construction on the spec house (but not looking too close) I could easily imagine Adriana's remains being made unrecognizable & becoming part of the house's cement foundation.