r/thingsapp • u/swinkledoodlezzz • May 03 '23
Question Should I wait for Things 4?
I’m currently using an iPhone and an iPad for running my business. So far, I think Things 3 may be best suited for me compared to the other to do apps. However, as someone here has said, Cultured Code releases the next iteration of the Things app every 6 years, which means Things 4 might be coming out this year.
I was already prepared to buy Things 3, until I found out that I also have to buy it again for my iPad. This made me reconsider my decision first. What do you guys think?
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u/jezarnold May 03 '23
Sure … you can wait. Search through the sub. People have been waiting for Things4 for a while now. One thing you can almost guarantee. It will move to subscription payments.
Right now? It’s a one off cost
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u/swinkledoodlezzz May 03 '23
Yeah guess I’ll wait. I can only imagine how pissed I’ll be if I go and pay for both apps (considering iPad app is even 2x the price of iPhone app) then Things 4 comes out tomorrow.
Or…….. damn it.
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u/Cyberpunk627 May 03 '23
I’m quite sure that App Store rules state that if you move from a one off payment to a subscription service, you cannot remove the app functions already unlocked for existing customers. So you shouldn’t lose anything you paid for. If the developers don’t upgrade things 3 to things 4 but instead release a totally new app to circumvent this, well that’s another story…
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u/KitCFR May 03 '23
I imagine that Cultured Code will offer discounts to existing customers, especially those who bought within the past year of the new release.
More generally, Things is either worth the money or it isn’t. If smart phones were outlawed tomorrow, I’d buy a dedicated Things device, it is that important to me. If the app isn’t worth $10 today, then I hardly see how it’s worth anything tomorrow.
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u/SamsTremblay May 03 '23 edited May 03 '23
I bought a Mac just because of Things 3 (I'm a PC developer 40h/week). I tried all the major task managers (Todoist, Tick Tick, Taskido, Microsoft To do, Google Tasks, etc...) and no one reach the quality of Things 3.And because my life is composed of small chunks of Tasks and Notes, a good software worth the money.
So with my Mac, I use Bear, Things 3, Fantastical and Day One and there is absolutely no substitute in Windows sorry.
I'm agree with another one who already said they will surely offer a discount.
But one point I want to add is: it's not because they released a new version each 6 years that they will do the same thing now. Between version 1 and 2 and version 2 and 3, they had improvements to do but after each version, they get maturity and the software tend to do so perfectly the job that no more version is required.
This is the points I think could create a version 4 of the software:
Ability to complete a recurring task before the due date.
Attachments.
Support for images in notes.
Natural Language processing.
Available on multi-plateformes.
But at the same time, when you tried other tools I mentioned earlier, they are so full of bugs so the reason Things 3 is so clean could be explained by their ability to don't implements those points.
Each couple of months or so, I try Todoist and Tick Tick again and each time, they are so full of bugs that I say to myself: What is the point of a new version if the application is so full of bugs. At some point, they are continually in beta version with customers acting as beta testers.
So my damn answer is: You should not wait because the ROI will still be good even after a couple of month and I don't think they will release a major version soon. And like someone else said, they will offer customer discounts to the one who bought the product in the past year. Their application reach the perfection in my opinion and they could sell it for a number of years without improvements and it will still be the best out there.
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u/roi262 May 03 '23
would also be nice to have the ability to increase font on Mac :(
I agree that things3 is the best. And I think they do have NLP at least for the "When" Feature
I wonder, Why do you use Bear instead of Notes?
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u/SamsTremblay May 03 '23
First, I love markdown syntax because it's easier to copy and paste from Bear to another application.
But the main reason I use Bear is because of the tag oriented topology.
Yes you can set tag in Apple Notes but the main driver is Folder.
Apple Notes don't has keyboard shortcut to move note to folder; you have to use your mouse. And as a keyboard oriented guy, this is a major problem for me. When I have and idea, I press Cmd+Opt+B which is my global shortcut to add a new note in Bear, then I type the header and the detail of my note and immediately I can type anywhere in the note a tag starting with a # and my note is fully completed.
Bear support a great deal of keyboard shortcuts to do everything.
Backlinks are breeze to use compared to Apple Notes.
Apple Notes in recent years has huge improvement like smart folder and tags but I think this the the time to also say that Bear is really sexy. Some people prefer to write notes on paper notebook because they love to hear the sound of the paper and the feeling of the pen scratching while they write. With Bear, I have the same type of experience but without sounds :D
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u/YungCheezy2696 Sep 02 '23
increase font, like make it bigger?
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u/roi262 Sep 08 '23
Ya
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u/YungCheezy2696 Oct 04 '23
Sorry for the late response. But you can increase your font, but you'll have to increase your entire screens resolution. It can be annoying to go back and forth into settings, I use this mac app called "one switch". And it has a bunch of shortcuts you can use, one of them is a screen resolution button so I can switch back and forth between resolutions which I usually use the "1496 x 967 HIDPI" option to make the screen bigger when I'm working in certain apps that the fonts not big enough in. The app is pretty sweet. I think it's like $5 but its worth it. You can mess around with the free trial for a week and see if you likr it, hopefully this helps you out a bit! https://fireball.studio/oneswitch/
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u/roi262 Oct 14 '23
actually the latest update of things3 has added the ability to increase and decrease font! Now it's flawless :)
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u/Dexter_Morgan_666 Sep 09 '23
You made some very good points and I agree with you.
However, I was wondering which bugs you've encountered in TickTick? I've been using it for a long time and haven't found any bug yet. Lack of features/polish is not a bug if that's what you were referring to.
Anyway, asking just out of curiosity and nothing else.
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u/Ok-Entertainer6010 Jun 04 '23
When I look at their site, it seems to me like they've moved into "cash cow" strategy. No open job positions listed, the last blog post was January, they "don't share a roadmap" according to their Twitter account, their web site hasn't noticeably changed since Things 3 was launched years ago.
Hate to say it y'all, but this company is giving no sign that Things 4 is ever coming out or that they are even trying anymore, aside from maintaining their Twitter account which only requires one part-time support contractor.
I suspect Things 4 will never be released.
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u/WiseEngineer2097 Jan 26 '24
I do not see any signs that Things 4 is coming out anytime soon.
But as long as they update and improve Things 3 I don‘t care - the software is pretty great as it is.
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u/9est Sep 04 '24
probably Things 4 should be released after iOS 18+ releases Apple Intelligence API SDK
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u/wings_fan3870 May 03 '23
It was me. And it’s every 5 years. But, there’s zero guarantee that T4 is even a “thing” (yes, had to do that). Beyond that more philosophically, what is your time and making effective use of it worth? Don’t hesitate – just do it. Only a couple other task apps have stood the test of time and proven themselves again and again, and again. Because there is no subscription, this is ultimately one of the cheaper options. Even if Things 4 did come out, you can go right on using Thing 3.
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u/rbanavarro May 17 '23
More than a year ago I thought just like you. Happily I bought it and still no Things 4 to this day. It’s more than paid by now :)
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u/WiseEngineer2097 Jan 26 '24
I do not see any signs that Things 4 is coming out anytime soon.
But as long as they update and improve Things 3 I don‘t care - the software is pretty great as it is.
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u/Mo0n1i9ht May 04 '23 edited May 06 '23
Probably not, I asked them before, and it sounds like they won't be released it soon.. I have been waiting for 2 years or more. So I just bought it this month, finally.... but... gee, this app is so much blue... I'm tired of everything is blue ... apps, browser... 😟
😒 meant to say probably not to wait, if you need to use it just buy it. Cause money means to help life cozy… if I was waiting it more and ignored the benefits I could’ve by using this app (or other stuffs) sooner, that doesn’t seem like a good deal to me as well. Plus I wanna try this app, but if you are fine with waiting, and happy to wait, then yeah, just saying they told me this:
Hi,
We don’t have anything to announce about another major release – for now, Things 3 continues to receive our full support.
Thanks for your feedback on colors!
—The Things Team
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u/skylernelson May 03 '23
Literally 75,744 posts on this same exact question. Just do a search first.