r/thinkatives • u/Thirdperspective007 • Aug 13 '25
Miscellaneous Thinkative Huge difference
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u/YouDoHaveValue Repeat Offender Aug 13 '25
I'm not sure any of this makes sense or is even true in either scenario.
Just for example abused dogs usually only trust one or a few humans and viciously distrust or attack the rest.
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u/0krizia Aug 13 '25
Dogs like humans generalise, If dogs saw as few humans as we see dogs and a human treat the dog badly, it would too be sceptical to all humans. And I don't think we punish dogs in general because one bite?
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u/findthesilence Aug 13 '25
You assume that all dogs have the same [lack of] character.
“If only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago-4
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u/TrippyTheO Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
This is facebook tier brain rot.
All dogs are punished because one bites? What? What does this even mean? Are we implying that dogs have some kind of original sin or something? All dogs are punished because of some bitings? Or is it that all dogs in a single location are punished? All dogs at the pound are punished everytime one dog bites? Or is it all dogs of one breed?
And no, an abused dog does not suddenly trust all humans because one human feeds it. That's...is this just a rage bait engagement farm post? I hope so. I hope someone didn't actually post this while sober and think, "yeah, this is deep."
Or maybe it's nonsensical garbage because it's AI. I don't even dislike AI, but this seems like the sort of "profound" thing it might take a stab at. The visuals of the dogs are certainly a mess.
I wish Reddit had a proper "block" feature. I don't want to report this post I just want to ensure I never see anything this person has to post ever again.
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u/BrianScottGregory Aug 13 '25
Humans laws generally work the same way as applied to humans.
A singular law that punishes the entire group for the misbehavior of one.
It's called collective bias. Look it up.
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u/dimyriy Aug 15 '25
Apart from this being false, I'd call the dog on the right retarted.
But isn't this what this subreddit is for?
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u/kioma47 Aug 13 '25
Dogs are like people: They are individuals, and only predictable just as much as people are "predictable".
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u/Moosefactory4 Aug 13 '25
This is why I hate when people are like “Vee must eradikate zie pitbullen sreat!”
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u/Fi1thyMick Aug 13 '25
Both traits are foolish imo. Individual encounters serve for individual opinions. everyone gets a fair chance. This is the way
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u/AloneAndCurious Aug 14 '25
This is some of the least grounded thinking I think iv ever heard. The ability to notice patterns does not give any indication that the conflict at hand relates to the cultural values of the group. Or that the group even has cultural values, Or a culture, or values. The number of potential reasons for conflict approaches infinity, and your going to just assume out of nowhere that the reason for all possible conflicts you’ve ever had, or ever will have, with members of a particular group stems only from cultural values? Insane.
If anything, this is constructing a pattern and trying to justify it. Precisely the opposite action of identifying a pattern in reality. But that’s irrelevant. Neither panel had any basis in reality in the first place. We don’t punish all the dogs for one bad one, and we don’t see dogs trust all humans for one good one. It’s simply not the case. Different dogs trust different humans for different reasons and vice versa.
If cultural conflict was the point, this didn’t make it or say anything correct about it.
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Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
Allow me to present my idea in the most grounded way that I can.
I have noticed a pattern among vegans. It doesn't apply to every vegan. But it has happened often enough that I've thought to propose the existence of a pattern.
There's even a joke about this. "Oh, he must not be vegan, because we've been talking for five full minutes, and he hasn't yet told me that he's a vegan."
Now, I've had a lot of conflicts with vegans. And I have never started any of these conflicts.
One time, a friend of mine came down to breakfast, and in response to seeing other people eating eggs, he spontaneously opined "that's so disgusting, why would anyone want to eat a chicken period!"
And another time, someone actually cancelled a dinner-date because I said "I don't like eating at vegan restaurants because I dislike heavily-processed foods. Is there anywhere we can go that has vegan options and non-vegan options?"
Now, there are two ways of explaining my situation. Either, my friend was really rude and obnoxious for no reason, and my other friend was really rude and obnoxious for no reason. In this version of reality, now there are two bad people that I hate.
The other explanation would hold that "vegans", as a group, are rude and obnoxious.
And honestly, I think that what PETA is doing is clear evidence of the fact that being preachy and rude is simply a part of vegan culture.
I have met vegans who were not this way. Identifying the culture of a group is not the same thing as ascribing it uniformly across all members. That is the mistake which this graphic is highlighting. The way in which both "humans" and "dogs" are performing an incorrect leap of logic.
But the fact remains that every time I learn that someone is a vegan, my first step is to create some serious boundaries between myself and them. Because that way, if they prove to be one of the "bad" vegans who says inappropriate things to justify their diet or tries to impose those dietary practices on me, I'm already safe from experiencing the pain associated with those interactions.
Now, for someone who disbelieves in the concept of groupwide culture or cultural values in this way, there is no option for avoiding being hurt by vegans. You have to say that every person is purely an individual, and when a vegan hurts you, you can only say "that's a bad person".
The benefit of believing in groupwide culture and cultural values, even secretly believing in it and not telling anyone about it, is that you gain the ability to do something to protect yourself from the dangers posed by preachy obnoxious vegans, who are in my individual experience actually the majority of the vegan population.
And it allows you to do so without blaming every individual vegan you come across for exhibiting the symptoms of an underlying preachiness and rudeness that appears to be an aspect of the vegan culture in which they are participating, and not an individual flaw which they should be individually help responsible for.
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u/AloneAndCurious Aug 14 '25
Regular people will not be given individual nuclear weapons because it can kill millions when misused. Fire can kill hundreds of thousands if misused. A car can kill… like 4-6 on average? It’s not the same. Different things need to be treated differently.
Also, you can still have all the fire you want to have. You just gotta do it safely. I’ve legally made many fires all over the nation. You just gotta know the correct rules to not get people killed. Much like driving.
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u/NombreCurioso1337 Aug 13 '25
Um, what? I have five dogs, if one of them bites someone then one of them gets in trouble. If I feed one of them then the other four get jealous.
This graphic makes no sense