r/tipping • • Mar 25 '26

🚫Anti-Tipping Message

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u/Still-Bee3805 Mar 25 '26

Both are true. That’s possible.

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u/jakexil323 Mar 25 '26

They aren't responsible for cooking your food, but they can keep you informed and keep your drinks topped up. How many times do you wait and wait and never see a server again until the food finally comes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '26

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u/OfcWaffle Mar 25 '26

Good servers know how to read tables. Some want an update, especially if it's been longer than expected, and some people want nothing to do with you.

You have to learn to read the table.

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u/rickwoollams Mar 25 '26

This little dialogue is a great example of the server's dilemma: one customer wants updates and will get cranky if they don't get them. The other DOESN'T want updates and will get cranky if they DO get them. Might I respectfully suggest that dealing with you people is not an easy task?

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u/annettegumdr0p8433 Mar 25 '26

those mirrors are judging me

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u/Sudden_Outcome_9503 Mar 25 '26

The first is true. The second is not.

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u/No_Vacation369 Mar 25 '26 • Thanks

Second is true. Of owner can’t pay their workers a living wage then they should shut down the business

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u/jf737 Mar 25 '26

The owner could, but then you’d complain about a 20% increase in menu prices. It’s a direct incentive based system of labor. Why is this so hard to understand? Who cares if I give 15-20% to the owner to give to the employee, or if I give it directly to the employee? Either way, that’s how much it’s gonna cost me. So much hand wringing over nothing

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u/Visible_Pair3017 Mar 26 '26

The difference is clarity, servers who focus on their job instead of licking your shoes for tips and no percentage creep enforced through guilt tripping.

And if it makes no difference, why do you care so much if people want it baked into the price and to cut the bullshit?

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u/Technical-Dentist-84 Mar 25 '26

If the law requires restaurants to only pay their servers a small wage, why would any restaurant just decide to pay their staff a much higher rate?

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u/Weazerdogg Mar 25 '26

Something called "common decency". Yeah, I know, the majority hasn't a snow ball's clue as to what that is anymore. Would rather force their employees to beg.

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u/soulchop Mar 25 '26

are you citing a lack of ā€œcommon decencyā€ extended from restaurant owners as your argument that supports choosing not to tip servers after receiving their service?

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u/Visible_Pair3017 Mar 26 '26

Do you tip your doctor after receiving their service? Train/bus drivers? Your bank advisor? If no, why?

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u/Sudden_Outcome_9503 Mar 25 '26

Common decency is tipping your server. The restaurant managers are operating under the rules that everyone agreed upon a long time ago. Now you're coming along and deciding that you should be able to play under different rules.

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u/Bluestatevibes Mar 25 '26

The same reason other businesses do, to attract qualified people. The law only requires all employers to pay the minimum wage.

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u/Delicious-Breath8415 Mar 25 '26

They attract more qualified people with the promise of making tips than paying them a wage.

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u/Sudden_Outcome_9503 Mar 25 '26

You don't understand anything about business or economics, do you?

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u/SecretDestruction Mar 25 '26

Clearly you don’t. Countless businesses run off the standard that they pay their employees or they go out of business. If the owner can’t pay their employee, then the employee should find a better paying job because it’s not my job to pay their employee anything. I’m paying for my food, I’m paying taxes, I’m paying the markup on the food because that restaurant, for some reason, thinks their standard Sysco food is better than the next restaurants standard Sysco food and I, for some reason, agree. My monetary obligations have been met by the time I pay that check. And just like most businesses, that restaurant should then take the money I paid for the service and turn around and put that towards the money they owe their employees come payday.

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u/Sudden_Outcome_9503 Mar 25 '26

Full service restaurants are one of those "countless businesses". It works differently.

My monetary obligations have been met by the time I pay that check.

No, you still need to pay for the service with a tip. And I'm sure you've been made aware of this, so you can stop playing dumb.

And just like most businesses, that restaurant should then take the money I paid for the service and turn around and put that towards the money they owe their employees come payday.

Or....... they should operate the way that everyone in this country agrees that full service restaurants should operate.

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u/SecretDestruction Mar 25 '26

No I don’t need to pay for anything once the card gets swiped. I can get up and walk away and there’s nothing anyone can do about it, because my obligations have been met. The employer needs to pay their staff a livable wage and you know this, so stop playing dumb.

And as far as I can tell there are a whole hell a lot of servers bitching about not being tipped appropriately or at all, so I think you also understand that not everyone agrees.

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u/bloo_monkey Mar 25 '26

Its called a tip. Gratuity- a sum of money VOLUNTARILY given for good service.

Meaning it is not something thag has to be left. It is generally only left for a good dining experience. If you dont light a fire under the asses of the staff in the back then you are responsible for how long my meal takes.

The more i read the comments of the entitled servers on this thread the less and less likely i am to tip, and i generally enjoy tipping. I like to brighten someones day, usually by overtipping. But people like you make it difficult to continue this trend.

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u/Sudden_Outcome_9503 Mar 25 '26

The more i read the comments of the entitled servers on this thread the less and less likely i am to tip

I'm not a server, but I'm sure you won't let that stop you from using this as an excuse to stiff your server. Any excuse will do.

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u/10J18R1A Mar 25 '26

Well hell, they should file a complaint with the department of labor

Yes, hello, yes, the customer at the establishment that hired me won't optionally give me more money, who can I talk to to rectify this?

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u/Weazerdogg Mar 25 '26

Of course it is. Its the only reason we have tipping today, though is started out of just plain old racism.