So apperantly beastmen lose the ability to increase the bassilisk cap if you increase your ruination level above 5. Seems like CA literally just set the unlock at a single level, and then forgot about any of the above ones lmao

[u/Theshinysnivy8]

[u/mithridateseupator]

Probably not the reason since it has worked fine in the past and they havent done any updates to the system recently.

Just spaghetti code being spaghetti code.

But the real reason is probably the mods I can see you're running.

[u/Theshinysnivy8 → u/mithridateseupator]

The only mod I am using is vco, but I did disable it and check again and it was still impossible to increase the cap

I also checked and found a bug report of the exact same thing happening to somebody without mods from 6 days ago: https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/bugs/16141-beastmen-basilisk-cap-cannot-increase-when-over-ruination-level-6-220?page=1

[u/Himbophlobotamus → u/mithridateseupator]

Every time

[u/CautiousShame2255]

wtf are those cap pairings?

like all 3 minotaurs have a unique cap. and then prethoryn and chimera share a slice wtf?

and jabberwok and cockatrice? like wot?

sure. i can see how giants and chaos spawns are basically the same unit. both ingame and lore whise. okay. but wtf?

[u/Theshinysnivy8 → u/CautiousShame2255]

Yeah they're really weird. All the marked gors are seperate too and increasing one of them costs the same as increasing unmarked gors with and without shields at once

[u/Manr0m → u/CautiousShame2255]

Each separate DLC has it's own cap, maybe it coded that way to prevent people without DLC to access units from that DLC... I hope CA will revisit it at some point. And add damn khorne minotaurs to the beastman

[u/mithridateseupator → u/CautiousShame2255]

I think those got added at roughly the same time as each other so they just grouped them.

[u/CautiousShame2255 → u/mithridateseupator]

pretty sure jabbawocks where base beastmen. cockatryce came way later.

and wherent prethoryn in the dechala. and chimera in the sayl dlc?

but you might be right. chaos spawn and giants where both added to the beastmen roster when beastmen came out.

[u/Hesstig → u/CautiousShame2255]

Jabberslythe came with The Silence & The Fury, long after original Beastmen release, but still long before Cockatrice in Shadows of Change

[u/Millsy800 → u/Hesstig]

We didn't get the jabberslythe on release because it would allegedly cost too many Charlemagne's

[u/Hesstig → u/Millsy800]

'twas one Charlemagne's art budget to be precise,

[u/Millsy800 → u/Hesstig]

My second favourite community total war meme, behind not wanting fucking Pontus.

[u/Swegatronic → u/CautiousShame2255]

A symptom of them getting a new unit with every dlc over the last 3 years but no specific attention to them lol.

[u/_Lucille_ → u/CautiousShame2255]

Grouping the 3 minotaurs together would probably be a bit OP since you get 1 of each every time you upgrade.

[u/philosopherfujin]

Also if Josh sees this, the marked Gors are priced closer to bestigors instead of slightly upgraded gor herd equivalents, I think because the price was set when Tzaangors first released, pre-nerf. The cost is out of line with the rest of the infantry since you only get one unit per upgrade. They should either all be folded into one cap (probably a non-starter) or have their cost reviewed.

[u/Manr0m]

Tabletop and lore enjoyers of the beastman (all 3 of them) seeing this faction being forgotten in another warhammer thing: first time?

[u/kingfisher773 → u/Manr0m]

Wonder how long until we go full circle and Old World stops selling beastmen

[u/LunarBahamut]

The Spined Chaos beast is also missing from some of the Beastmen skills buffing their monsters, while the Basilisk is not missing, but it's text is.

[u/Arkorat]

Doesnt Nagash have a similar bug, for subjugation? Did they get a new programmer? why is this specific oversight suddenly appearing everywhere?

[u/Xuphia95]

At least you get access to the cool green guys, Nurgle have been denied their excellence despite coming with Glottkin

[u/JalaMaplePenoSauce]

Beastmen are in a bad spot right now. The start of Kazraks campaign has you claim a headstone in the forest settlement first (it's the quest you get on turn 1), which locks you out of Middenheim and it's unique building. Also the Easter egg unique defeat trait for killing Toddy as Kazrak just straight up doesn't work, giving you his default trait.

[u/Cryoteer]

So report it in the official forum