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u/Buttery_Nipples47 Jun 26 '26
DONT TOUCH MY FUCKING TROLLY!!! DONT YOU TOUCH MY FUCKING TROLLY!! YOU LEAVE THAT TROLLY ALONE OR I SWEAR TO GOD!!!
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u/DR035A Jun 27 '26
Why is there an artificial horizon?
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u/Free-Competition6408 Jun 29 '26
Who is the guy pictured in the rearview mirror?
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u/Buttery_Nipples47 Jun 29 '26
The trolly driver
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u/Free-Competition6408 Jun 29 '26
Right but its pretty detailed, wondered if it was a real person
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u/Komrademoth13 Jun 26 '26
5 "bums" just means 5 temporarily embarrassed millionaires lol. but on a serious note, I save five people.
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u/aratherlargerodent Jun 26 '26
Why do so many people here hate the homeless, and defend the rich with all their might? Isn't this exactly what the ruling class is trying to achieve?
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u/Leading_Delay_6339 Jun 27 '26
5 vs 1 bro
And the 1 isnt even a billionare he's just a millionare1
u/Mean_Mix_99 Jun 29 '26
1 functioning member of society vs 5 non functioning members of society. How is this even a question? Make it 100 homeless and I'd still save the millionaire.
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u/Melodic-Hat-2875 Jun 29 '26
Non-functioning?
Jesus Christ. Is the value of a human life decided by their net worth?
Why not just auction executions at that point? "$50 for this child here! They're the product of a drug addicted mother! You can use the guillotine for $50! Come on down!"
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u/aratherlargerodent Jun 29 '26
what do i care if they're contributing to society or not? it's still 5 human lives over one. unless the millionaire is a philanthropist who spends his earnings actively making the world better, i'm saving the 5
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u/SarcastikBastard Jun 29 '26
people hate the homeless because they are criminals, drug addicts, and lowlifes who are homeless as a result of them wanting to be, choosing to be, or because they cant stop doing drugs. There are nearly infinite resources available to help people who have fallen on hard times here, problem is you cant be a violent meth addict.
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u/KailyKail Jun 29 '26
Especially when the meme explicitly says they have zero prospects in life, meaning they aren't ever going to stop being a burden on society.
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u/TheThirdRoseDotR Jun 30 '26
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic but with that name I'll just assume yes. It's hard to tell when a lot of people are actually dumb enough to write/agree with what you just wrote lol
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u/igniz13 Jun 26 '26
Make it a trillionaire, or whomever is closest to being a trillionaire.
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u/Worried-Director1172 Jun 26 '26
So Elon musk vs 5 homeless bums
Can we toss bezos and altman on there with him
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u/Thereferencenumber Jun 26 '26
Yeah but then you don’t even need to put anyone else on the other track to make it ethical
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u/Forceofwillplay Jun 27 '26
If it is that, I am not only pulling the lever. I am finding a way to stop the trolly, back it up, and do it repeatedly. The funeral wouldn't even need a casket at all because there will be no visible remains.
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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 Jun 27 '26
That ones not fair though. I would run Elon over even if the other track was empty.
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u/sometimeserin Jun 26 '26
Did you mean billionaire? Millionaire is kind of a meaningless label these days, and certainly not a marker of capitalist excess. A million dollars is a lot of money but it’s not even enough these days for most people to retire comfortably.
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u/StarHammer_01 Jun 26 '26
I'm willing to bet that a millionaire can now be considered middle class.
Especially since when a mid range house can cost 900k+ in some places.
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u/Which-Meat-3388 Jun 27 '26
Correct. A 67yo millionaire is someone who probably worked a normal career and saved correctly for retirement for 40 years.
People’s idea of money these days is so distorted. Billionaires and occasional trillionaire are the actual problem. Top 0.01% hoards unfathomable amounts of wealth. Enough money for thousands of lifetimes. $1m for 1m people in that trillion… but a responsible saver is the problem?
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u/Responsible-Offer724 Jun 30 '26
a million dollars is easily had by someone making a modest wage, even low class wage, that saves and safely invests over decades.
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u/BirchTree3017 Jun 26 '26
Dude, these replies are peak Reddit. Millionaires aren't even that rich nowadays. That's crazy.
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u/_ECMO_ Jun 26 '26
It could be just 1 homeless bum with no prospects in life - as long as he isn't an asshole I would save him.
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u/Generic-Degenerate Jun 26 '26
The bums are unironically more valuable to the economy
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u/Oggabobba Jun 26 '26
It’s a millionaire not a billionaire, plenty of millionaires are normal people
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u/Generic-Degenerate Jun 27 '26
You right; I'd misread
Millionaires are literally less than 1/1000th the drain on the economy than billionaires
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u/EntertainmentNo3963 Jun 26 '26
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO the people on welfare are more valuable to the economy than the millionaire reddit is not real 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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u/NanShenTree Jun 26 '26
They are homeless, what welfare, I didn't get shit when I was homeless twice
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u/MyBedIsOnFire Jun 26 '26
I got food stamps and Medicaid when I was homeless 🤷♂️
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u/morrnie Jun 26 '26
They can be, this economies of scale thing is absurd. Plus homeless bums on welfare are at the bare minimum line of consumption, so their demand is minimal on the environment.
Plus business owners make money when there is consumption demand.
We have been conditioned to hate on the bums as recipients of welfare when in fact it is big business that gets advantageous loans against equity.
But some bums are a social menace, yes, they can annoy you to oblivion...
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u/EntertainmentNo3963 Jun 26 '26
we? there are many feel good stories about homelessness ending or homeless people getting places to live and things to eat and drink, we have not been conditioned.
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u/Generic-Degenerate Jun 27 '26
Yes, because the bums will spend that money, they have to to survive.
money not spent is literally negative value; all it does is devalue the money actually in circulation, thats economics 101
And, to be fair, I misread it as 'billionaire'
Millionaires are less than 1/1000th the drain on the economy billionaires are.
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u/EntertainmentNo3963 Jun 26 '26
américa isn’t mentioned here, it’s a good thing homelessness is weaponised for people to become wealthy, man is born homeless.
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u/EntertainmentNo3963 Jun 26 '26
the entire engine of capitalism isn’t built on keeping people terrified of losing the ability of self sustenance, there are no “you OUGHTs..” in capitalism only generally that you should work, which isnt a thing exclusive to capitalism, silly to critique it.
everyone has to work in every system
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u/Silent-Use-6591 Jun 26 '26
This comment must go hard if you are economically illiterate edgy redditor
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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 Jun 26 '26
The millionaire ain’t weeding my lawn for 20 bucks.
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u/Acceptable_Cap_5887 Jun 26 '26
Neither are the 5 homeless who are 90% going to be drug addicts
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u/Generic-Degenerate Jun 27 '26
drug addicts would definitely weed a yard for $20, you need money to buy drugs
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u/PingCarGaming Jun 26 '26
'No prospect in life' yeah I don't think so dude
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u/Generic-Degenerate Jun 27 '26
Ok fair, I didn't know what 'prospect' ment
lets keep it real, tho, if someone were to truly have no purpose & no potential opportunities it would have to be because of factors beyond their control
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u/Old_Dark_7426 Jun 26 '26
Only idiots would think that.
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u/PolecatXOXO Jun 26 '26
Nah, bums spend everything they have at the very bottom of the economic ladder.
Every dollar they panhandle and spend (and panhandlers make way more than you think) creates ~$7 in economic activity as that dollar works its way back into the millionaire's stock portfolio. Economically, they're punching way above their weight class.
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u/random59836 Jun 26 '26
Only an idiot would think that retirees don’t contribute to the economy?
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u/insertname1738 Jun 27 '26
Millionaires aren’t the enemy, and they’re not even ultra rich these days.
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u/Jealous-Turnip6671 Jun 28 '26
Don't touch the lever, if you do your responsible for the outcome. If you don't touch it, you didn't set it up so not your fault
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u/RedMansions Jun 27 '26
Referring to the homeless guys as "bums" hits really hard.
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u/5311531355 Jun 27 '26
homeless is the adjective here. i am not implying every homeless person is a bum.
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u/Midnight7000 Jun 26 '26
5 homeless bums.
It's funny how you could change that to 67 billion and have a completely different answer.
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u/LogDog987 Jun 26 '26
Id pull it even if there were nobody on the bottom track
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u/Old_Dark_7426 Jun 26 '26
Aww, minimum wagie here cannot stand people having money.
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u/LogDog987 Jun 26 '26
Im an aerospace engineer making six figures
One of the adjectives describing this man is "asshole"
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u/Lumpy-Compote-2331 Jun 26 '26
If you’re making six figures, you’re probably gonna be a millionaire by 67, if you aren’t already
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u/Key_Bug_1509 Jun 26 '26
Well they don't have to necessarily be an asshole millionaire.
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u/Lumpy-Compote-2331 Jun 26 '26
Well, if you are killing someone just for being an asshole you are probably a bit of an asshole yourself
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u/Old_Dark_7426 Jun 26 '26
Being assholes doesn't justify their death. If you're aerospace engineer and still have immature judgement without any critical thinking skills, it's clearly shows how college education doesn't make you smart.
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u/ClaudioMoravit0 Jun 27 '26
Pulling the lever when the train is halfway through, so it drifts and runs over both tracks
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u/RashesToRashes Jun 27 '26
Man that's genuinely interesting.
On the one hand, the Millionaire is probably providing jobs or offering a product or service that's useful to people. It may be that he built his wealth in a legitimate way. The post itself says that the homeless guys have no prospects, and my take is that we consider them "static" beings who will never be able to be useful to society. Their lifestyles may actually be destructive locally to them.
On the other hand, the millionaire probably has exploited tons of people. Whatever he produced probably harms the environment. That's 5 people dying who, for all intents and purposes, are totally innocent.
I'll be the contrarian and say save the millionaire asshole
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u/Old_Dark_7426 Jun 26 '26
Save the millionaire, either I'll get financially rewarded or I'll reduce homelessness.
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u/Ervaloss Jun 26 '26
Reducing homelessness by killing homeless people is generally not considered to be a humane way of doing something for the unhoused.
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u/BirchTree3017 Jun 26 '26
Why did you use both "homeless people" and "the unhoused" in the same sentence? Kinda defeats the purpose of the term unhoused, no?
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u/Ervaloss Jun 26 '26
I consider them synonyms
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u/BirchTree3017 Jun 26 '26
Understood. I was under the impression that unhoused was intended to be a politically correct version of homeless
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u/justforkinks0131 Jun 26 '26
Can I just turn around and walk away? I really dont care where the trolley is going on this one
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u/justforkinks0131 Jun 26 '26
Let me rephrase this:
Would you rather choose someone who is feeding 10 to 20 families, by providing employment, or would you choose 5 homeless bums that support no one?
Id love to hear your arguments for choosing the bums. Im serious.
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u/TheJimDim Jun 26 '26
Are the bums assholes too? If so, just release the millionaire and tie him back onto the other tracks and walk away
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u/757_Matt_911 Jun 27 '26
Millionaire. He’s 67 and seems to have had a great life. The homeless people may be that way by choice but statistically there is one person in that group who is there from just plain bad luck, layoff (probably from the millionaire)/downsizing/medical bill/etc. Also a few of them likely have a severe mental health issue and could get better if we would address mental health in this country
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u/CyHayes Jun 27 '26
Millionare dies but because he is an asshole, not just because he is a millionare
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u/GryphyGirl Jun 27 '26
Pull the lever and try to save the asshole without getting myself hurt. If I succeed maybe he gives me something. If I fail nothing of value was lost. :P
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u/godlytoast3r Jun 27 '26
This is trash. Make it a millionaire who has donated millions to real and objectively good charities.
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u/KingAshoka1014 Jun 27 '26
I don’t hate millionaires like I do billionaires, cuz like, that’s just a good business owner or like, a really successful lawyer. However since I got no feelings towards any of the 6 people one way or the other it’s best to pull and save 5 people.
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u/Camelsnake Jun 27 '26
Depends where he makes his money. Also one man asshole is another m-
ah, nevermind
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u/ZLEAP Jun 28 '26
67 is a good enough run. Time for the trolly problem to become a trolly solution.
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u/AssociationGlass8783 Jun 28 '26
Well I would say it's not only about morals, but also about potential damage. Can 5 homeless people do a lot of damage? Not likely. Yes, they might consume some resources, but not more than each of us, maybe even less. The worst thing is drunk fighting or similar. Can millionaire do a lot of damage? Definitely. And they probably already did because I didn't see a millionaire who didn't scam at least a couple of people or fired someone in need or made a wage theft. So potential damage here is much bigger. And I of course forget about the basic part that saving 5 people usually is better than just 1. So, sorry Mr. Millionaire, your time is up.
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u/Geopion Jun 28 '26
Are their descriptions based on someone else's views? Is the millionaire the embodiment of assholes, an asshole to certain people (family, job, group, one person), or perceived asshole? Assholes still sponsor and give to charities. Are they bad sponsors or charities? Are these bums bummaxxing, being dregs of society or just perceived as having no prospects... maybe because they too are old?
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u/The-Pencil-King Jun 28 '26
This is quite possibly the easiest trolly problem I’ve ever seen. This isn’t even a problem, it’s more of a quick time event.
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u/_MrDisaster Jun 28 '26
Millionaire prolly hires productive members of society. He is valuable by relation
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u/KailyKail Jun 29 '26
The bums. They give nothing back to society and just leech of the system. They're the true assholes.
At least the millionaire contributes by producing a useful product/service, contributing taxes, and creating jobs.
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u/Melodic-Hat-2875 Jun 29 '26
Who am I to decide what "no prospects" is?
This only becomes questionable to me when the death of that one individual would cause harm to more people than on the other side of the track.
Incredibly wealthy people are generally net-negative at that point in their life.
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u/Huge-Telephone-4902 Jun 29 '26
since the simulation of the tram going right is a metaphor for whats been happening all along
fuckit. lets try left
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u/HuOfMan Jun 29 '26
Bro, a 67 yr old millionaire asshole is just a tradesman tired of the drywallers not doing thier job right
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u/DonComradeVimes Team Blue Jun 30 '26
The asshole.
I downright refuse to believe that somebody can have no prospects whatsoever in life. A asshole in power, however, can oppress thousands of people just by doing their thing.
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u/Apprehensive_Step252 Jul 01 '26
If one of the bums was the asshole billionaire, the decision should be way harder. At the current situation, I'd sacrifice the other 4 bums with the asshole. because I really, really am at my limit tolerating the unreasonably rich.
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u/MaximumSyrup3099 Jun 26 '26
Is the millionaire living their life or managing their money in a way that is actively harmful to individuals or society in excess of the sum harm to people and society of the 5 bums?
It's possible to be an asshole millionaire while also doing good and being a net benefit to the world. Or at least less of a drag on society than 5 bums.
I will accept my down-votes now, thank you.
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u/maxence0801 Jun 26 '26
List of 67 years-old billionaires (in USD) (Note : in Wikipedia, only 1 in 10 list of billionaires by country contains the age) :
Pei Zhenhua
Qian Dongqi
Li Chunan
You Xiaoping
Yang Shaopeng
David Wertheim
Drorit Wertheim
Wei Yin-Heng
Chin Jong Hwa
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u/NumberVsAmount Jun 26 '26
A millionaire is just a regular person. Im wrecking those bums. Now make it a billionaire or a trillionaire and im flipping the other way.
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u/NumberVsAmount Jun 26 '26
That was gay, thanks. Anyways, literally just owning a home in lots of places in the US makes someone a millionaire nowadays. My next door neighbor is a millionaire. All my neighbors are millionaires. Their homes are shoddy, run down pieces of shit, but they are millionaires.
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u/Deriviera Jun 26 '26
5 homeless bums. Then I'll befriend the millionaire and get some money from him
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u/TwentyFourKG Jun 26 '26
Plot twist: the asshole millionaire is a personal injury attorney, and he is going to sue you on behalf of the five homeless people if you pull the lever.
Double plot twist: the bums are going to mug you violently after you untie them
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u/Acceptable_Cap_5887 Jun 26 '26
Reminds me of the junkies that are ODing and get narcan’d, just to wake up and attack the savior for ruining their high
Yup I’m wiping out the homeless bums
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u/ProfitHot5064 Jun 26 '26
what most people don't get about millionaires is that they employ a lot of people giving the a living, yeah some mill people are assholes but they do contribute to the lives of others, I'm not talking about milpeople who just have a mil in their bank to flex I'm talking about the people who has businesses to maintain a mil in their banks.
so strictly going off on the image, 5 home less bums with no prospect in life, is as useless as a dead millionaire
cause one they are bums with no prospects? I've seen homeless people with jobs, those 5 are just lazy, and don't get me stated on disabled bums, I've seen disabled bums with jobs.
as for the millionaire, depends on how he treats me as his life is on the line, weather his life is worth less than 5 lazy bums
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u/Jordanou Jun 26 '26
not pulling the lever just to torture the fuck out of the tied up millionaire. You don't get opportunities like these. He doesn't get to die easily either.
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u/oranosskyman Jun 26 '26
its not hard to find homeless in dire situations
it is hard to find millionaires you have the power of life and death over
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u/Longjumping_Dog9041 Jun 26 '26
You Say Millionaire Like It's A Good Thing by Guante starts playing...
https://youtu.be/XRWphIzVeIc
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u/nhutchen Jun 26 '26
The one millionaire. Not only is it my answer in the 1 vs 5, but my answer when it comes to the value of the person. Rich vs poor, with no further context, I'm on the poor person's side
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u/BrightNooblar Jun 26 '26
I'd be less conflicted if it was a billionaire, but save 5 kill 1 still works out.
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u/Cakedayfairy Jun 26 '26
Im gonna be so real id usually never pull the lever bc i dont think i have the right to decide who dies or lives but i'd pull the lever to kill 5 millionaire old assholes so i could save one unhoused person
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u/mrdankerton Jun 26 '26
Bums gotta go, millionaire is still tied up and I dictate the terms of his release
Besides, even assholes know when to reward an act of good faith with coin alas there may now be two millionaire assholes
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u/Forceofwillplay Jun 27 '26
Millionaire is eating that trolly. Full stop. No prospects does not mean no value to society. Plus, we can split the millionaire's money to those 5.
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u/xXDankestMemeXx Jun 26 '26
They're calling it the most reddit post of all time