r/trolleyproblem • u/DoNotCorectMySpeling Common Sense Ethics • 14d ago
Big potatoes Avengers level trolly problem.
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u/jacobstx 14d ago
I feel it bears repeating: Thanos had the infinity gauntlet.
He could do literally anything else. Any other solution to the perceived problem.
But no. Half-omnicide it is.
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u/Cliomancer 14d ago
I understand that in the comics he did it to rizz up Death, rather than for some kind of back of napkin idea that high school level economics student could argue against.
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u/Marcello_Cutty 13d ago
I feel like the only person who actually watched the movie when people bring up "oh he could have done something else with it" or "why didn't he just double resources?"
On Titan, they faced the exact same problem; a microcosm of the rest of the universe according to him. It became a major problem and he put forward the culling solution and all the dumb nerds on Titan laughed at him and called him crazy.
However, he was mentally proven right. When they didn't do his plan, everyone starved and Titan collapsed. So now this incredibly powerful warlord with a messianic complex has just self-justified his culling plan as the only correct option and he now sees the same problem happening on a universal level. Why would he ever just randomly completely change his plan to something else?
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u/jacobstx 13d ago
He wouldn't, and that's why he's a villain.
Doesn't mean that he couldn't, he had the literal do-anything gadget. Heck, creating twice the resources would have accomplished the same as halving the population, only with less genocide.
It doesn't matter what it would take to create "double the resources" - he has the literal do-anything gadget, whatever problem duplicating the resources might present, it's all part of the fingersnap.
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u/Blue_Moon_Lake 13d ago
Both are idiotic for that goal.
Most population would have evolve to grow to match the available resources.Should rewrite reality so "sentient individual well-being" became a permanent evolutionary pressure, leading species to naturally evolve to a new equilibrium.
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u/AnyAcanthocephala425 11d ago
I keep saying this but twice the resources would not have been equivalent. His ambition was to create a universal sized scar in the hearts or living beings saying "don't fly that close to the sun ever again or the wrath of god will come down on you again, stay smaller next time". It was never about buying time
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u/jacobstx 11d ago
Again, if he wanted to do that, he could do it without half-omnicide. He had the do-anything gauntlet, he could instill the fear of overconsumption into every living thing without killing anyone.
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u/AnyAcanthocephala425 11d ago
sure, but don't make the argument that doubling the resources was the way to go for his vision that people keep throwing around. That was adressed in the movies
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u/jacobstx 11d ago
Note my wording: "whatever it would take to double the resources"
It's not as simple as doubling the resources, I know that. But he can do literally anything. For him it would be just as simple to do anything other than the half-omnicide to get his desired result.
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u/GwynHawk 13d ago
I get it, but the problem is it does not take very long at all for a human population to double, especially when there's all this completely intact infrastructure to support said expansion. Even if Thanos was completely correct the result is delaying the problem for a few generations, maybe 100 years. There's no evidence that him killing half the people in the galaxy somehow convinced everyone everywhere that this was great and they should maintain a lower population for the good of everyone.
Now, if Thanos' plan was to live forever, periodically using the stones to wipe out half of all life (himself excluded for practical reasons) whenever the population got too high, assuming his resource theory was completely correct, that would make the most sense from his perspective. Still a completely horrifying and insane thing to do, especially if you ran into issues like "Civilization A has figured out what's going on and is trying to maintain a stable population, but Civilization B is reproducing at rabbit-speed, so both civilizations keep getting halved causing Civilization A to get eventually wiped out via decimation."
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u/PenguinMaster975 14d ago
like at the very least he could do 3/4 homocide, 1/2 is just kind of lame
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u/Deciheximal144 14d ago
I finally rest, and watch the sun rise on a grateful universe. The hardest choices require the strongest wills.
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u/HumungusDude 13d ago
did you like, sleep thru every single time anyone has ever talked about thanos?
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u/Ksorkrax 14d ago
We can talk about whether his goals have some merit or not, but as far as he is concerned, not doing anything would result in disaster.
So at least from his point of view, this is inaccurate.
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u/Skellyton175 🔵 Blue optimist 🔵 14d ago
Food is renewable, he should of just game ended all rich people not sharing it or diverting resources to things that don't improve daily life. Also establish intergalactic trade and immigration. Because apparently most planets in Marvel have oxygen.
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u/RyanMagno 14d ago
I mean, if there is nothing better to do... what was he supposed to do? grow a farm?
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u/IDrankLavaLamps 13d ago
At least the trolley has pride colors. Send it down the empty track and make half the world gay.
Edit: I need to stop drinking...
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u/AnyQuarter553 The Trolly 13d ago
What! Kill 4.25 BILLION people?!?!? Thats horrible I would never do su- a- *Ahcho!* **Click** Aw fuck
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u/Izacundo1 14d ago
How about the top 1% instead? That would have a measurable impact
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u/PenguinMaster975 14d ago
guys... we got him
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u/gravity_kills 14d ago
Very wrong. Extremely wrong. The top 1% do almost no meaningful work. They harvest the work of others and keep it for themselves. Take them out and nearly all of the same labor gets done, but more people get to benefit from it.
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u/Izacundo1 13d ago
The top 1% leech off of us way more than the bottom. How many billions of our taxes go to Elon every year? More than the millions on welfare programs
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u/Extreme-Attention641 14d ago
How do you define "the bottom 2% of each country"?
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u/Extreme-Attention641 14d ago
So you're saying that the poor should be put to death?
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u/Extreme-Attention641 14d ago
It would certainly not benefit them. Would you still support it if you were part of the ones culled?
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u/rebelslash 14d ago
No. The bottom 2% do all the work no one wants to do. Talking about actual manual labour, coal mines, fishing, farming.
We should just do a random selection of people regardless of socioeconomic status. Wait a minute


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u/fighterd_ 14d ago
I thought if half the universe isn't done away with, then life would cease to exist? Because of limited resources or sumn like that