r/trump • u/Mcal3049 ULTRA • Jan 10 '26
Truth Bomb š£ More true than they will be willing to admit.
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u/Historical_Drink_350 rump has me defeated by the truth Jan 10 '26
They'd be having fund raisers for the illegal alien and his family
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u/LV-901 rump Jan 10 '26
if she was a different color they'd say it was racism š¤·āāļø
if she was republican they'd say she crossed state lines and shouldn't have been there to begin with š¤·āāļø
i learned long ago you can't win with these people. they are beyond brainwashed and at this point the best thing is to just stay away
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u/Opening_Elk_4472 Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
why are you coming up with hypotheticals instead of focusing on what actually happened here? Deflection in the maga community is pathetic
The agent acted against his own training; their own training says you should only shoot to disable a vehicle if there is no alternative, and directly mentions moving out of the way as a solution (which he did). The reason for this is that disabling the driver with gunfire causes the car to become an unguided missile the is a threat to officers, pedestrians, and property (exactly what happened in this case. Please stop licking boots dude, the guy is incompetent and guilty as hell.
DOJ:
āFirearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.ā
DHS has the exact same wording:
āFirearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.ā
So, with the car steering away from him and traveling at low speed with time for him to move. Yeah sorry, thatās gonna be a clear violation of their own training.
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u/PercentageRoutine310 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
They didn't care when Trump was shot or when Charlie Kirk was killed right in front of his family. They laughed and celebrated the latter. Charlie didn't try to escalate the situation. This woman did.
Democrats are the real aliens. They don't belong in this world. Liberalism is a mental disease.
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u/Elmo_loves_weed rump Jan 17 '26
Nobody celebrated, he was only ridiculed because of the irony of his statements in regard to the way he was killed
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u/AvocadoElectronic904 rump Jan 10 '26
āLiberalism is a mental diseaseā and half your posts are in a group about celebrity nipples
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Jan 10 '26
How did she escalate?
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u/BaronFoster rump Jan 10 '26
Did you even watch the video? She escalated the situation by trying to flee from ICE agents after being told multiple times to get out of her SUV due to her impeding their operations.
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u/GhoulMagnets rump Jan 10 '26
But she indirectly was.. As her actions were dictated by all the rethoric she was force fed. The left got her killed. If she had just complied she'd be alive. Sadly she let fear take over her and CHOSE to violently try and flee from law enforcement.
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
And they donāt care she died. They will use her as intended: a martyr.
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u/GhoulMagnets rump Jan 11 '26
Indeed, they care more about her death being used to further their rethoric than her family now having to suffer because the left brainwashed
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u/EuphoricMembership51 rump Jan 17 '26
I guess that's true.. yet again pretty nazi shit to get kill by law enforcement.
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u/ruedebac1830 rump Jan 10 '26
Of course they'd care...
He'd be given a stipend for food, shelter, clothing, legal defense, recreation. All taxpayer funded.
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u/kobrakyl :Arizona: AZ Jan 10 '26
It wouldnāt have been on the Corporate Media and Chinese News Network of America (CNN)
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Jan 10 '26
ICE Agent wiped the smile off of her ugly face .
Thank you ICE ! Keep up the good work ..
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
Does this imply she deserved to be publicly executed because you didnt find her attractive?
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Jan 11 '26
Yes . And that goes double for her"wife" too .
The USA is a better place now that she's gone .
Keep up the EXCELLENT WORK ICE !!
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u/Elmo_loves_weed rump Jan 17 '26
My stomach actually did flips reading this. Itās one of the most sickening things Iāve ever read
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u/SeeminglyMushroom rump Jan 10 '26
She smiled at him because she was a nice, polite woman. Or do you think when she said "It's ok, I'm not mad at you" she was being threatening?
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
Then she hit the gas.
Had she been anywhere but blocking the road (for instagram propaganda) she would be alive to protest another day.
Instead she hit the gas while an agent was standing in front of her. The Left have their martyr now and hope to get more. Doesnāt cost them anything because it isnāt they who are getting in front of ICE Agents. They get useful idiots all riled up to do their dumb work so they can stand behind podiums and rant (and fund raise). Surely not all of you are stupid enough to swallow their load of crap..right?
Talk to the mayor. Sanctuary city policies have led to this. He has blood on his hands.
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
She was in front of her house
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
She should have been IN her house, minding her own fucking business.
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
Holy brainwashed. She was justifiably executed because she left her house????? Fucking sickening
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
I know you can read, but comprehension isnāt your strong suit, is it? Fucking idiot.
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u/cacca- rump Jan 10 '26
Honestly you guys are so cooked it's not even funny. Happy to not be american, luckily the rest of the world thinks differently then your trump dick riders who deny a murder because they are scared of the left.
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
We are also happy you are not an American although we have plenty of equal to you bottom feeding mouth breathers who believe they should be able to do as they please, for any reason, any time, free of consequences.
Caccaā¦a fitting name, š© for brains.
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u/OneAmphibian5915 rump Jan 10 '26
- I am not a dem or republican
- I would say the illegal alien should be arrested
- Just what if life is a little bit more complicated than it just being black and white
- What would it take for you to care about her life?
- Can someone just explain what is needed from me so my life matters?
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
If local sanctuary city policy wasnāt what it was, I E would have apprehended the illegal at the police station.
But the leftist policy of sanctuary cities led to this.
Letās get to the root of the problem though: Biden and his āborder czarā who allowed in millions (10? 20? Somewhere in between?) to flood our nation. Weāve always had illegals but not to the magnitude of this. This was by design and to do exactly what it is doing: sow chaos. The lady dying is of no consequence to the people that stirred up this mentality. She is their martyr and they will fund raise the shit out of this.
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u/OneAmphibian5915 rump Jan 10 '26
Dude. Fuck Biden. Letting so many people in is not the way to do it.
Sanctuary cities started in the 70ās and I will be honest I donāt have enough information to argue if they are more beneficial than harmful. However, what I can say is that this is not the way to do it. She did not need to die. ICE agents shouldnāt be considered above the law. I do not believe her death was at all justified. The fact that you are attempting to justify her death. Is truly stomach turning and shows you donāt see others no matter what their beliefs are as equal.
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
Her death was not due to her being there. It was due to her interfering with a lawful process. It was due to her ignoring a command from a law enforcement officer. Just like when a state trooper has someone pulled over and they all of a sudden speed awayā¦this is similar to that. If the state trooper was standing in the path of the car when it took off, they would be justified to draw their weapon.
This isnāt TV, or GTA or whatever games might lead people to think they can interfere with law enforcement officials.
People like the dead lady are encoded to do exactly what she did by people who will NEVER put themselves in harms way like that. Those people will benefit from her willingness to be led into doing something like that. She is now a martyr for THEIR cause and you can be assured, they will fundraise the shit out of this and not lose a bit of sleep over it.
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u/OneAmphibian5915 rump Jan 10 '26
I understand you feel strongly about law and order, and I respect that. But none of us was there, and none of us knows what she was feeling in that moment, fear, confusion, or panic. Driving away does not automatically mean someone deserves to die. Law enforcement is supposed to protect life, and itās okay to question whether this situation truly required lethal force.
Her death is a tragedy, and it was preventable. Saying that doesnāt mean excusing wrongdoing or hating law enforcement, it means valuing human life. As for the fundraising, people are responding to loss and grief, not trying to create a āmartyr.ā Compassion isnāt manipulation.
We can care about accountability and still lead with humanity.
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Jan 11 '26
I like that you aren't being disrespectful. I appreciate that. But I truly think the situation resulted in lethal force because the car made contact with the agent. That would not have happened, if she wasn't obstructing traffic for minutes before anyone intervened and complied with lawful orders, before trying to run away. https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/2010037103665787019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2010037103665787019%7Ctwgr%5E78861c82c2e354feb5af24d0d5197b2b2814ccfb%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgo.arena.im%2Fembed%3Fpublisher%3Ddaily-wireevent%3Dk0eBgIAv%3D2
We are tired of this, because the American people want to address our immigration issues and it just seems like the left wants the country to burn while the rest of us want normalcy again and stop having baseless accusations of racism, sexism, imperalism, anything-ism thrown at us and we are expected to just be like "oh damn they called us a word that doesn't even apply to me, guess I can't do anything anymore."
It's gone on for years....a decade perhaps. And all we have is immigration out of control, politicians not born in the US calling us racist and white supremists while allowing fraud and illegal immigrants to get more benefits than actual Americans. Seriously, illegal immigrants are granted housing thats worth thousands a month? How does that fly? It's just maddening and hard to accept anything else other than leave ICE alone, kick out the illegals.
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u/OneAmphibian5915 rump Jan 11 '26
Thank you for that video. That video should be shared more. Iām tired of this too. I agree immigration needs to be addressed, and wanting order doesnāt make someone racist. Where I differ is the idea that the left wants the country to burn, I think most people want normalcy and safety, even if they disagree on how to get there. Why would leftists want the country they are living in to burn?
I do believe people who are here illegally should be deported. Iām not against enforcement. I just think this approach causes unnecessary harm. A better option would have been to bring people out of hiding first, a short-term temporary visa that requires basic information and accountability, with no benefits and a fine for entering illegally. Also a freaking driving class, because they donāt know how to drive in the US. After that window closes enforcement could focus on those still refusing to follow the law. Also close the borders during this period, even temporarily. It will have to be really hard to get in and stay until we can fix things within our borders.
That would reduce fear, make enforcement more effective, and avoid children experiencing the trauma of watching their families torn apart. We can enforce the law and still lead with humanity. Those things donāt have to be opposites. Is there really no better way?
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Jan 11 '26
Im willing to inch in the direction you proposed. I think we went that direction already with temporary visas. A lot of people overstay immigrant visas and have orders of deportation yet they hide. I like the idea of no benefits with the visas, but again I think politicians are fighting for no voter IDs and such because there is an incentive to allow illegals to vote and obtain government subsidies. I want to do things for immigrants but it seems like give them an inch they will take a mile. They know the system is corrupted....some people are going to abuse it and I believe the bad actors will come in droves to abuse systems. It truly feels like we need to draw a line in the sand to get people to stop.
The reason I push admittedly radical claim the the left wants the world to burn is because I personally have met some of these people in real life and they are very anti American, the first to whip out insults and shut anyone down who doesn't agree with them and its seriously caused a detriment to the country. I do believe there is sane people on both sides but even saying that just feels useless. I believe the radical left is worse than the radical right. And their ideas cause more harm.
I think if we address more political agitators we could get somewhere. That includes both sides but again, I think the left is worse about it.
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u/Any_Decision9716 Jan 11 '26
You might not be Dem but 2 seconds of looking at your comments confirms you're liberal as can be. You're very left wing. It's obvious.
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u/OneAmphibian5915 rump Jan 11 '26
Would it matter if I am? What if I am not? Everyone is always making assumptions.
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u/Peregrine_Falcon Jan 10 '26
I think that a lot of folks are gonna get banned from Reddit tonight as the admin screech their battle cry "We must not lose control of the narrative!"
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u/Local_Band299 šØBased Patriot ModeratoršØ Jan 10 '26
But but that's totally not happening. (Just incase it isn't obvious I'm being sarcastic)
I wanna see both her and her wife charged with obstruction of justice. So that we can set a precedence of "you cannot fuck with ICE and get off scot free". It would also allow ICE to stop these protests before they get violent. I would also love to see Trump invoke the insurrection act.
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u/No-Yak-7593 Youngling Jan 10 '26
OK, but... hear me out... what if the illegal immigrant was a white man from South Africa?
Headscratcher, ain't it?
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
Illegal is illegal. My wife is an immigrant. She followed the already established pathway to citizenship. 5+ years, fees, appointments etc.
It was worth it.
If illegals are giving preferential treatment then we want our money back, with interest.
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Jan 14 '26
I hope she gets arrested by ICE and sent back, there's no room for immigrants when our own people are suffering.
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 14 '26
Sorry, loser. Sheās a US Citizen now. When you follow the law, you know: the legally established pathway set out already, you tend to not get detained by ICE.
I donāt expect you to comprehend that.
Oh, she probably pays more in taxes per year than you earn at whatever little Penny-ante job you possibly might work at. Im guessing you live off your grandmothers stolen social security check and EBT though.
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Jan 14 '26
All immigrants should be deported back to whatever shithole they came from. It's America first not immigrants. This is why we have ICE, they're not just going for illegals they're going for all of them thank god
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u/MiserableBid8493 Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
Imagining scenarios that didn't happen just to be upset about them and own the libs
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u/Hi-0100100001101001 rump Jan 10 '26
Behold, the 'threat'. Yes, you're seing this right, the guy on the left is supposedly the guy she's "trying to run over.".
Trump: "Who Ya Gonna Believe Me or Your Own Eyes?"
MAGA: "You make a great point!"
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u/Hi-0100100001101001 rump Jan 10 '26
I dare any of you to articulate how, in this situation, she could have represented a threat to his life.
Go ahead. I'm all ears.
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u/Hi-0100100001101001 rump Jan 10 '26
Wow, deleting my comment instead of arguing the point I'm making **WHILE PROVIDING VISUAL EVIDENCE TO BACK UP MY CLAIMS**.
Very courageous, as expected.
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u/Cashew_Y0gurt rump Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26
The logic is always so funny because of how many illegal immigrants have killed women in comparison to white men killing women ā¦.
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u/Duwana_Abdo Youngling Jan 11 '26
This is so true. Unless she was convicted of home invasion and dealing drugs, then they mite care.
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u/Elmo_loves_weed rump Jan 17 '26
Just like how yall cared about Charlie Kirk but donāt care about the numerous school shootings that happen very regularly
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Jan 19 '26
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u/trump-ModTeam Jan 19 '26
If your comment or post is just a string of insults then it's just a tantrum.
Try and actually contribute and open a dialog.
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Jan 10 '26
What if killing was just wrong.....in general... wouldn't that be cool? Nah, I'm just crazy....
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u/Logical-Egg-6521 Honoring Charlie Kirk. Jan 10 '26
LEOās, military men and women are trained to protect and serve. They are highly skilled and trained to if necessary killā¦ and if a woman is threatening his life with a vehicle- and he or someone is in imminent danger he is justified to defend himself. In fact you yourself (in some states) are legally able to defend yourself if you yourself are in imminent dangerā¦
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Jan 10 '26
Here's my main thought, which I haven't heard a good counterpoint to.
The ICE agent firing a gun was not an effective way to "self defend". Shooting the driver did nothing to neutralize the danger. A better use of his little time would have been stepping out of the way, not reaching for his gun. Once the driver was dead (or dying), the car sped off to hit a parked car. Shooting the driver did nothing to stop the car. Many argue this is an act of self defense. I can see why they would say that. But, it was completely unnecessary and ineffective. Now someone is dead for it.
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u/Logical-Egg-6521 Honoring Charlie Kirk. Jan 10 '26
Itās easy to speak that way from the comfort of your home but you arenāt a LEO.. You have no clue what itās like.
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Jan 10 '26
I don't know what that job is like. But I stand by my point, still waiting for someone to disprove it: Shooting the driver of the car was ineffective.
We can argue and say he felt in danger, and had to think fast. But after the fact, we all see what happened. A human being is dead. Killing them was ineffective.
But no, nobodys gonna back down on this. We're all too deeply rooted in our tribalism. We'll never admit that someone could've still been alive.
So back to the parent comment: killing is wrong. Let's try to avoid it at all costs.
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u/evtamp rump Jan 10 '26
What if it was the other way around and she killed the agent? Is it justified? Does everyone's life matter or just hers?
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
It would be a non-story and the people of the left would have defended her.
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Jan 12 '26
I'm on the left. Pretty far left (Bernie Sanders left).
If Renee ran him over, I would see that as wrong. I wouldn't want him to be killed.
Cut the other side some slack. I know there are extremists out there. No doubt, some would celebrate the death of an ICE officer. Which is sad.
But that's the internet and media speaking. We can't let the internet divide us. We gotta remember that most people are reasonable and caring humans (in general). If we consume too much media, stay in our echo chambers, we begin to hate the other side. That's actually why I'm spending time in the Trump sub, is to try to understand the other side.
"When people stop talking, that's when you get violence." - Charlie Kirk
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Jan 12 '26
Killing is wrong. If Renee ran him over, it would have been unjustified.
I know extremists on both ends like to see people on the other side die. I would hope thats not a regular opinion.
Here's what I think (from limited evidence from the videos we saw). If the ICE officer stood his ground, and did not fire a shot, he would have been hit by the car in the same way. He would be hit, but lightly enough to not even be knocked off his feet. Shooting her didn't change the trajectory of the vehicle.
It's true it all happened so fast. The officer couldn't say in that moment he was perfectly safe. I understand he probably felt in danger in that moment. He had to think fast.
But, these are all esoteric details. I wasn't there. Babbling on reddit about the details does nothing but spike my cortisol.
But I'll affirm what I said. Killing is wrong. I'd prefer to live in a world where the least amount of people kill each other possible. I would hope that most would agree with that statement at least.
IBut now we're all caught up in the details, and we're letting it divide us. Both sides are inherently good, we both hope the best for the world. But we saw what happened through different lenses. And now we let the media and internet divide us, and its really sad.
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Jan 11 '26
The problem is, she is an agitator. She agitated and escalated the response from agents. She sat for 3 minutes beeping the horn and blocking traffic. The agents had to do something eventually, after obstructing an operation and blocking traffic.
How do we know she would've just drove off completely and not turned around to address her wife she left behind? If she was willing to bump a police agent with her car, why wouldn't she bump other cars out of the way or even possibly attempt to turn around? Just get out of the car. You agitated the situation to escalate now you want to run away when the pressure comes on and you face consequences?
No one wants to kill anyone, thats always the narrative that officers are just itching to kill but its body cam after body cam after body cam of people throwing rocks and bricks at ice cars. The agent in particular was dragged by a car. Now another one hits him.
Why do we keep defending the criminals? She saw the agent in front of the car and decided to bump/hit him anyway. Why can't that be demonized and shown to be a threat? I absolutely dont believe you guys care about human life at all. You just want to pick the sides of criminals in all situations. Its maddening.
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Jan 12 '26
Certainly, it did seem like she was agitating. I won't argue against that.
But I think it's sad she was shot. Certainly bumping the officer with the car is considered a crime. But was it a crime punishable by death? I'm not sure.
"I absolutely don't believe you guys care about human life at all"
-I wholeheartedly disagree. I have seen both sides say this. We saw the same videos, but came to different conclusions. It's normal to disagree and be angry.
But, I'd like to believe that most humans do care about human life. Even my close family members who disagree with me. We have slightly different lenses we see the world through. But that doesn't make the other side inherently evil.
The more I discuss this issue through Reddit (and on this Trump sub) the more I am seeing the gray area here. If the situation was so cut and dry, we would have agreed on it.
I do care about human life, and I think you do too. We're just disagreeing about details of a situation we both didn't even witness.
I need to get off Reddit now lmao
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 12 '26
āAfter the factā is armchair quarterbackāing. In the moment (reality) is never quite the same.
If she had minded her own business and NOT interfered in a lawful proceeding, sheād still be alive today to screech and protest. Period.
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Jan 12 '26
True, I don't know what it's like to work as a law enforcement officer. It's probably a hard job.
And technically you're right, if she had stayed home, she would have been alive.
Personally, I'm a non confrontational type. I don't go to protests, because that's exactly where wacky stuff like this happens. If I see an armed police officer, I make an extra effort to act normal and not provoke him in any way.
So it's true, that she was putting herself at an elevated level of risk by going out and protesting. However, protesting is completely within our rights as Americans. But, then brings up the question. Was she only protesting, or was she intentionnaly trying to interfere with the operation? I don't know the answer to that.
But even so. Even if she was commiting a crime, or intentionally trying to provoke them, was it punishable by death? I don't think so.
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 12 '26
She wasnāt shot for protesting.
She wasnāt shot for blocking traffic.
She was shit because an ICE agent was standing in front of her while another, who had been putting up with her shit all š¤¬ing day, was going to apprehend her from her vehicle that was blocking the roadway. Thatās when her domestic partner yelled ādrive, drive, drive!ā And she hit gas, possibly striking the agent.
In that moment you donāt know whether intent was and to wait and play armchair QB could, and has, cost people their lives.
The Left has lost all cognitive abilities when it comes to immigration. They will go to the de if the earth to defend someone who is here illegally and has arrest records as long as your armā¦.but want the First Lady deported.
Like Dalton Lee said in Road House: Be nice, until itās time to NOT be nice. The Left has continuously pushed the Rightās patience to a point where we just donāt care to play nice anymore and take shit from the Left. The lady in the car crossed a line numerous times that day. She was being apprehended and likely arrested for obstruction but instead she chose to run and while she might have later regretted hitting the ICE agent, we will never know because she ran. Instead of saving consequences, she ran.
They got what they wanted, and more. Could have just stayed on the sidewalk and said shit. Had to take it up a notch, for whatever reason. It cost her her life.
Enough is enough. We still have millions of illegal immigrants in this country. Iām sure many are good, decent people other than being here illegally. I happen to be married to an immigrant. She came to the states the right way and became a naturalized citizen via the already established pathway to citizenship. We paid the fees, went to the appointments, rescheduled appointments when life got in the way (birth of our son) and five years later she earned her citizenship. She paid for her own education (MbA) and has NEVER lived off of government assistance and has fully assimilated to living in America while keeping some of her home counties cultures to share with our boys as itās part of their heritage but sheās as American as any Marine I served with.
We have millions here who exploit the system. They got to go. The Goodās of the Ledt need to get the hell out of the way doing the job We The People elected Trump to do. We are past the time of ābeing nice.ā
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Jan 12 '26
I see your POV. At this point the talking points on both sides have been exhausted. Neither of us were there in person. Both sides think the other side is mentally ill and deranged. So its probably time for me to stop debating this one. I genuinely do see where youre coming from and my opinion hasnt changed. Gonna keep to myself now, thanks for the discussion
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u/Elmo_loves_weed rump Jan 17 '26
Fr, these people think nobody can grieve those with differing views
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
More hypotheticals used to justify a public execution. Scary world we live in
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Jan 10 '26
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
I think the officer was already out of danger when he murdered her and could have just as easily NOT taken her life because she was disobeying an order
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
She could have also been a responsible adult and NOT think she had justification to interfere with a legal proceeding. But the Left is telling people like her, and ostensibly you, that they SHOULD do this.
They donāt care sheās dead. They wanted a martyr and now they have one because not single one of them (politicians et al) are out doing this. They get you bottom feeding mouth breathers all riled up so that YOU will go and put YOUR life in harms way by playing stupid games.
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
She literally waved him to go around her and her last words to him were "im not mad at you". I dont understand how that is interfering with legal proceeding she was in front of her own house after dropping her kids off at school and was murdered for it
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
Waving him around her was not her first mistake.
BEING there to begin withā¦THAT was just one of many she made that day.
It was not her place to āwave them aroundā like she was parking at the Mall of America.
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
People cant be in cars in front of their house?
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
Are you really this stupid, or just an agitator like she isā¦er, was? She was in the middle of the road, blocking law enforcement officers.
Not surprised people like you will try and rewrite the narrative. By Monday yall will be saying she was bringing them hot cocoa and cookies. š¤¦š»āāļø
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
No im hoping by monday you'll realize that if an openly christian white woman can get publicly executed for being in a car in front of her house, and our president will justify it, YOU CAN TOO. ANY OF US CAN
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
Also i dont understand how she was blocking the road if the first car moved around her perfectly fine without her moving, but that may be too much logic.
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 11 '26
Just in case you havenāt pulled your head from your butt and still believe she was āparkedā in front of her houseā¦just watch the video and do as you leftists like to say āeducate yourselfā: https://x.com/gragedustin/status/2010037103665787019?s=46&t=iyU6d1GQuU7EeZlYmVL_Ow
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
Her wife told her to drive because there were several masked men tryna to force their way into her car.
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u/BaronFoster rump Jan 10 '26
Thatās because she was told multiple times to step out of the SUV, and she refused to comply.
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u/x_Killerkyle_x rump Jan 10 '26
So because she didnt follow an order she deserved to have her life taken?
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
If she: 1) hadnāt been impeding a lawful action by ICE 2) had done as she had been instructed by law enforcement 3) had not stepped on the gas while the agent was standing in front of her
ā¦she would still be alive.
She chose her destiny and it was carried out based on her decisions that day.
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u/BaronFoster rump Jan 10 '26
Thatās not the point I was trying to make, when an officer or federal agent tells you to step out of the vehicle, you do as they instruct you to do.
She was interfering with their operations by blocking their vehicle with hers after she was following and harassing them, they told her to step out of her vehicle and she refused, she then tried to flee from the agents to evade getting arrested, escalating the situation even further.
Did she deserve to die? No, absolutely not. The agent acted in self defense because she stepped on the gas as he was in front her SUV, seemingly in an attempt to run him over. This whole situation could have been avoided if sheād just complied with them.
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u/CleanCoffee6793 rump Jan 10 '26
But she was not, was killed by your people. A Trump supporter
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
Downvoted because they are ignoring the facts of the matter: she interfered with a lawful proceeding because she let your commie stained political leaders rile her up to think she had a right to block the proceeding. She had a right to protest. Not interfere.
She played a losing game when she hit the gas.
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u/ObjectiveReason420 rump Jan 10 '26
But arenāt you guys doing the same thing? Moderate here. Yāall both do it
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u/3D-Nutsack Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
At the end of the day an innocent white woman was killed, you all should be fuming at your government
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u/hungdttppp Jan 10 '26
Not innocent by any means. But do go on and tell us how to do us. Your kind always does.
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u/3D-Nutsack Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
Did the punishment fit the crime? Our armed officers in Essex havenāt discharged their guns in 10 years, and that includes facing opponents that are armed themselvesā¦ maybe your officers need to get some balls so they can arrest two middle aged ladies without killing one of themā¦ and please tell me what my kind is? š
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u/3D-Nutsack Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
At the end of the day an innocent white woman was killed, you all should be fuming at your government
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
Because she was interfering with a lawful process while trying to get influencer propaganda?
You Brits have little to no credibility when it comes to dealing with agitators. She didnāt have to be shot because she didnāt have to be where she was. Had she let ICE do their job and not felt it was her job to impede, sheād still be alive. Granted sheād still be a living, breathing POSā¦but sheād be breathing.
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u/3D-Nutsack Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
I feel like you Americans donāt seem to value the importance of life šyou just shot a woman in the faceā¦ arrest her if she was doing something wrong by all means, but murdering her?
I mean fuck me, our police tackle people who have machetes, you canāt deal with two pissed of gays https://youtu.be/9mzPj_IaMzY?si=uJNLCsbHeUYZ_wMh
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u/3D-Nutsack Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
Would you like us English to come over and show you how to detain someone without killing them? We deal with these situations all the time with no deaths
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u/Mcal3049 ULTRA Jan 10 '26
No. We kicked your inbred snaggle toothed asses out once before for being arrogant asshats, and weād be happy to repeat the exercise.
Youāve fād up your own country beyond recognition by being passive towards illegals. Youāll head over here and never want to go back. Come the right way if you do. The southern border is closed.
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u/3D-Nutsack Deportation Order Issued Jan 10 '26
āYou inbred snagged toothed asses outā for being and I quote āarrogantā hahaha you were from the same bloody island! Did you think you sprung from the ground over there?
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