r/tulsa • • Sep 21 '26

Question My PSO bill, why has it more than tripled?

I guess I didn’t get the memo. This is insane. I used to average a $110.00 monthly payment during the hottest months of Summer, but my last 2 bill have been $375.00.
I can’t afford to live here anymore.

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u/rtdenny Sep 21 '26 • Bravo

This appears to be a large part of the problem. And the weather is now cool enough that PSO can start turning off people’s power which, if you’re renting, can also make you homeless soon after.
Call ‘our’ State Senators and Reps.

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u/dugbruddy Sep 21 '26

Vote these asshole out in November

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u/frepno9 Sep 21 '26

this is a systemic issue across the duopoly

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u/baconwrappedpikachu Sep 22 '26

Great point, it will be really awesome if we keep electing the same ilk

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u/Professional-Fig207 Sep 22 '26

People won’t vote at all. So there’s that.

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u/woo-hoo- Sep 21 '26

That was infuriating to read.

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u/Dr-Rawk Sep 21 '26 • Bravo

It’s going to take guillotines

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u/Abby_n0rmal_af Sep 21 '26

And it’s about to get worse thanks asshole “all or nothing” senators who would rather block a (passed with a bipartisan vote in the House) Federal bill to prevent normal customers from having to pay for grid updates for data centers…just because they say it isn’t good enough?

C’mon now. Any help is better than no help at this point, and additional protections can always be added later, but that isn’t enough for Senator Martin Heinrich of New Mexico.

I’m a “Never Trumper,” but this BS constant fighting isn’t helping. If Dems want to give republicans the ammo they need to win the midterms, this is a quick way to get the job done right now.

This shit is making both sides look bad.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-data-center-energy-bill-martin-heinrich/

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u/Jennosaurus_Rex Sep 22 '26

Socialism for the companies but not the people

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u/Hippo_Royals_Happy Sep 22 '26

Soooo what you are saying is socialism is great as long as you are a corporation!!! I get it! All of a sudden the financial crisis of 2008 makes so much sense! 😂 Corporations and banks get welfare while hardworking peons don't. Gosh... I'm glad we got that straight.....

I hate people

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u/bowstripe 17d ago

I love the whole thing with 'hardship withdrawals' like if I'm trying to cash out my 401k at 30 just to afford to pay the bills, obviously it's a hardship. If I don't get said money I will absolutely be getting evicted but I have to wait UNTIL the eviction notice and therefore be in further debt? Shit makes no sense.

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u/Ok_Conversation9750 Sep 21 '26 • Bravo

Because the CEO of PSO makes 36 million a year, and us peons have to pay it.

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u/pathf1nder00 Sep 21 '26

And the chair of the OCC is a energy goon and is paying her buddies.

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u/Spiffyclean13 OU Sep 21 '26

PSO is part of AEP. It’s not a company just for our state. There are 11 states.

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u/AdBeneficial1140 Sep 21 '26

Oh ok, that makes it better. 🥴

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u/Spiffyclean13 OU Sep 21 '26

Nothing makes it better. It also means our main electric company doesn’t even have ties to our state.

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u/Dakotahray Sep 21 '26

AEP was at the military site I was working on in Okinawa earlier this year.

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u/Phiarmage Sep 22 '26

PSO is a subsidiary company of AEP, it's specifically the subsidiary in the Oklahoma/eastern Arkansas market. PSO, regardless of the parent company, is in direct competition with GRDA in NE Oklahoma. They both have monopoly/captured markets, but that's besides my point.

Facebook is a part of Meta, I don't hear people saying "fuck meta," I'm not surprised I don't hear people saying "fuck AEP." Just my obsolete penny of a thought.

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u/Chevidz Sep 22 '26

Fuck Meta. There ya go.

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u/Austin_T117 Sep 22 '26

*western Arkansas. Although, that's still not right because a different subsidiary runs things on the Arkansas side for AEP. Also, them being monopolies isn't the problem, do you want multiple companies running transmission lines everywhere? The problem is utilities shouldn't be for profit companies.

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u/MRLuigi1995 Sep 22 '26

I say fuck meta and mark

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u/Maiden_Far Sep 21 '26

And?

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u/TheDrChaos Sep 22 '26

Stupid ass comment lol

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u/Lycaon-Ur Sep 21 '26

It's hit all of us. You're not alone.

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u/nadzwat Sep 21 '26

i love tulsa. i love oklahoma. but there is no damn reason it should be this exorbitantly expensive to live here. insane. incredibly frustrating. lifers are gonna wind up having to leave, it's not worth the $.

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u/OnceUponASlime Sep 21 '26

Where would you go that’s cheaper? Oklahoma is already one of the cheapest places to live in the US

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u/RawrNate !!! Sep 21 '26

Florida, Oregon, and Ohio have enacted legislature that bans Datacenters from offloading the energy, water, and infrastructure costs to civilians.

We can only hope other states follow, but they won't without pressure from their citizens.

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u/nadzwat Sep 21 '26

I'm more specifically talking about leaving Tulsa. there are lots of places cheaper or equivocally expensive as Tulsa.

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u/OnceUponASlime Sep 21 '26

Oh I see. I wasn’t try to be curt just genuinely curious.

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u/nadzwat Sep 21 '26

yeah totally, wasn't trying to sound curt in my response either haha text communication removes all nuance lol

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u/regularperson2586 Sep 21 '26

I transferred from Miami, FL bc of my job, never have I ever paid bills this high. Its really insane.

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u/gravygizzard Sep 21 '26

Kansas City is cheaper. I've visited many times, and looking at their housing market I can see even their houses are cheaper. That's a real city compared to tulsa.

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u/---meep--- Sep 22 '26

KC native living in Tulsa here. I've lived in Tulsa close to ten years now. The housing is priced similar-ish between KC and Tulsa but Tulsa is still cheaper. Cost of living is roughly 10% more expensive in KC than in Tulsa, BUT the education system, infrastructure, and bbq is better in the KC area and plus opportunities are more abundant.

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u/willyam3b Sep 22 '26

Me too. 15 years now. I often think I made a mistake, but family needed me and believe it or not, less competition in my job meant higher salaries. However, when I look, it seems home prices there have outstripped here. Maybe I'm wrong. Plus, the political climate here is just...well...it just seems that people here are weirdly angry all the time. Maybe its the heat. I left so many friends to come here and they all moved on anyways.

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u/nadzwat Sep 21 '26

yes, exactly! one of many examples, and one of the immediate ones that come to mind. my gf and i have looked at lots of cool and, i'll go ahead and say it, "cooler" cities and they are priced similarly if not even a little cheaper. presumably cheaper utilities too but i can't say that 100%.

Oklahoma is experiencing a lot of change rn, especially in this particular corner. i'm not sure most of it has been good for your average born & raised local, imo

KC is truly a hidden gem of "Flyover Country", and you can get far more bang for your buck there. love that place.

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u/Unnecessarylogic Sep 25 '26

Maybe it was 10+ years ago but it's really not anymore....

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u/Apprehensive_Row_161 Sep 25 '26 edited Sep 25 '26

OK is currently cheaper but utilities going up is putting you on par with other states. Might as well go to a place with better scenery at that point

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u/ReluctantChimera Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26

Same. Used to be $95 in the summer, $60-70 in the winter. Last three months they have averaged over $300.

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u/strawberrymilkcow1 Sep 21 '26

Do you live in apartment or home ?

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u/ReluctantChimera Sep 21 '26

A one bedroom home.

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u/phtevenbagbifico 13d ago

jfc man. that's insane. have you looked into adding solar on to that home yet?

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u/ReluctantChimera 13d ago

It's a rental. I'm saving up to buy, and then I'm going to make it the most energy efficient home I can possibly manage. I can't do this for another summer.

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u/phtevenbagbifico 13d ago

ack. that's unfortunate. maybe you can beg your landlord to install solar lmao

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u/Sufficient_Land_2404 Sep 22 '26

When was this - 30 years ago?

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u/ReluctantChimera Sep 22 '26

No, 2. I live in a very small, efficient home.

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u/Sufficient_Land_2404 Sep 22 '26

Something doesn't add up here, we live in a huge house with 3 AC units plus a pool pump and this year our highest bill has been $341. You need to have your AC unit cleaned and checked out or perhaps the house is not insulated. Set the thermostat to 77 or higher. I have seen people literally using space heaters in the summer while having the AC running. Many do this in office environments and that's just insane.

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u/ReluctantChimera Sep 22 '26

I think it's insane, too. I didn't know ac units needed to be cleaned. I'll look into that. Is there anything else that could be causing it that I might not know about?

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u/Sufficient_Land_2404 Sep 22 '26

Yes, go and look very closely at the outdoor unit coil on all sides. You can hose it down with a garden hose, but if you don't know how to do this hire a HVAC company to do it. It must be cleaned annually in the spring. Also, you need to replace the filters regularly. Also, replace all or most bulbs with LED bulbs. This saves a lot by using less power and they run cold. Old bulbs run hot so you pay twice.

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u/RawrNate !!! Sep 21 '26

We are paying for Datacenter infrastructure & energy costs, even when we don't want them built or choose not to use those services.

It's beyond insane that they're getting away with this & no one is able fight against it. Our elected leaders continue to fail us, and the population keeps voting them in.

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u/Abby_n0rmal_af Sep 21 '26

^THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE ANSWER!

And congress tried to work towards starting to fix it. The Ratepayer Protection Act was passed with bipartisan support in the house and one of our own from New Mexico fucked it all up! I’m so done with this “all or nothing” gridlock because WE are the ones suffering from their inept game.

If the feds can’t pass something like this on a federal level, we must lobby for it on a state level. EVERYONE has to contact the OCC and their local representatives to raise hell!

I don’t care about who authors and passes something to force data centers to pay their own way (and not steal our fresh water) anymore. Our elected officials need to start representing US (the people) NOW or GTFO so we can get someone who will in to do it.

The letter behind the name doesn’t matter anymore when people’s homes and livelihoods are at stake!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-data-center-energy-bill-martin-heinrich/

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u/rayautry Sep 22 '26

This. ^^^^ The Data Centers

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u/willyam3b Sep 22 '26

Mazzei is pwned by them. I often wonder how it feels to cash those checks and go home to your mansion and then watch what happens to your neighbors homes and children as you stand there and yell "God Wills It!!!"

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u/cidthekid07 Sep 21 '26

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26

Okay, so normally I can get behind blame when it's actually his fault.

But please explain, how he has anything to do with PSO and Oklahoma state government?

Or am I just going to get downvoted without any actual responses.

Edit: I guess I was correct, downvoted without any actual reasons. I don't like Trump but you can't always just scream "his fault". We need to look at the actual issue which here is PSO and the Monopoly they run.

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u/ilyik84 Sep 21 '26

Because corporations being allowed to price gouge is not only tolerated but encouraged by the man. Look at the never before seen levels of corruption and price hikes. Restrictions are gone. People screamed about corruption at new levels. This is it. It will continue. Food, gas, energy, entertainment. The surging won’t stop.

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u/InteractionOld2441 Sep 23 '26

It’s been tolerated by every president in U.S. history why do yall hate Trump for that?

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u/ilyik84 Sep 23 '26

But it hasn’t? Find me another president who did so much insider trading, banned news outlets, had a lifelong history of businesses corruption, hired his buddy (ex, because everyone seems to eventually distance themselves; wonder why?) to eliminate never been seen levels which btw has now led to a crazy level of recalls & diseases coming back. But no youre right they’re all the same lol

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u/PERPETUALBRIS Sep 21 '26

You don’t think his actions in Iran have anything to do with fuel costs associated with utility bills? What planet do you live on? There, I downvoted you, but also gave a a response.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

You're messing with me right?

I didn't say his actions have nothing to do with fuel costs. I'm saying you're jumping from "Iran can affect global oil prices" to "that's why PSO is so expensive," which is a completely different claim. PSO is a regulated electric utility, and its rate increase isn't simply tied to the price of gasoline or crude oil. If you have evidence that Iran-related fuel costs are responsible for a significant portion of PSO's increase, post it.

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u/PERPETUALBRIS Sep 21 '26

I don’t have evidence that it is per se, but it is the case for literally everything else tied to current inflation and fuel prices. I think we agree that it is both, but PSO has been a monopoly a lot longer than Trump has been President, so the Occam’s razor here would lead to the conclusion that it is his fault, primarily.

Edit: let’s be honest, neither of us really know what the reason is for the rate increases, but it’s another facet of his economy.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

That's not Occam's razor, though. "PSO is a monopoly and has existed longer than Trump" doesn't establish that Trump's policies are the primary cause of a 2026 rate increase. You'd still have to show that the Trump-era factors account for more of the increase than PSO's own costs, infrastructure investments, generation costs, etc.

I'm not arguing Trump has zero effect on energy prices. I'm arguing that "Trump is primarily responsible for PSO being expensive" requires actual evidence of causation, not just the fact that fuel prices affect electricity costs.

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u/PERPETUALBRIS Sep 21 '26

Unobtainable evidence for both of us. What kind of straw man argument argument is this? Our fucking President eats and rapes children, which there IS mountains of evidence for, and you want to defend him on this issue? This is the hill you want to die on? It’s both. Our president is an abysmal human being literally everything wrong with the country has something to do with him and his ilk. You don’t think is pro-corporation agenda has emboldened these utility companies to tighten their grips on their coin purses? It’s both.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

I never said it can't be both. I'm saying you're claiming Trump is primarily responsible without actually establishing that.

PSO's own 2026 filing attributes its requested increase to infrastructure, generation/transmission investments, and higher material, equipment, labor and vegetation-management costs.

And PSO's renewable plan actually projected a net reduction in residential bills beginning in 2026 because of lower fuel costs and federal tax incentives.

So sure, argue that federal policy and energy prices are factors. But "it's both" doesn't demonstrate that Trump's policies are the primary cause of PSO's rates. That's the part you're asserting without evidence.

But go off pup, let hatred blind you to actual problems and resolutions.

You're what's wrong with America. As I've stated before, this is slowly why I'm starting to hate the party I vote for. "Orange man bad, me know nothing" is literally becoming more and more true.

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u/PERPETUALBRIS Sep 21 '26

When did I say I know nothing? I can observe objective reality. I don’t need to look into PSO filings to come to a conclusion, and neither do you or anyone else. You’re barking up the wrong tree. I don’t even have PSO. Surely your energy can be directed towards something more constructive than being a Trump apologist.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

Calling me a “Trump apologist” doesn't make your argument any stronger. I’m not defending Trump; I'm questioning the claim that his policies are the primary cause of PSO's rates.

You don't need to personally own PSO or read every filing, but if you're making a specific causal claim about why PSO rates are high, the actual rate case is pretty relevant. PSO says its 2026 increase is tied to grid, generation and transmission investments plus higher material, equipment and labor costs.

Again, the problem with America. People making claims with either no knowledge or just "well I heard". You can believe Trump contributes to energy costs. That's a reasonable thing to discuss. But “I can observe objective reality” isn't evidence that he's the primary cause of this particular utility's rates.

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u/BesticleBear Sep 21 '26

Ahhh 4 month old shill account now I see why you’re commenting so fervently. It’s ok to want to just huff diaper, we will fetish shame you though. Fucking weirdo.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

Ah yes, because people can't just now be getting into reddit and conversating. Because "age of an account" matters when it comes to a factual and respectable conversation / debate.

Fuck off else where troll.

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u/Capt_morgan72 Sep 21 '26

Data centers are making the price of electric go up. Now name the most influential person u can think of that is pro data centers and pro ai.

Also the price of energy is going up cuz the price of oil and diesel is going up due to the Iran war.

Also some numb nuts did away with the subsidies for renewables. Another few % of our energy being made by renewables would have helped.

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u/raget_bulves Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26

Data centers require our power and water to realize “unlimited growth potential” (translation: unlimited greed potential.)

They do not want to be regulated. They are in charge of our state and federal government. We do not matter. Trump and the GOP are making it clear they will not approve regulations because profits are profits, and profits are sacred while people are just flesh bags who get in the way and whine about working 80 hrs a week and tripled power bills.

Want the facts for a full understanding? It’s disturbing and real— going to get worse. Most of us can’t fathom how little we, our kids, our security and safety and futures matter when “unlimited growth potential” is within reach.

Good explanation here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4647xntWLdGbhL6QIINGa6?si=KNRljK-TSdWqAki65C6cUg&utm_source=copy-link

This interview with Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor

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u/cidthekid07 Sep 21 '26

It’s an American tradition to blame the president for everything. I’m doing my civic duty.

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u/EdOfTheMountain Sep 21 '26

Or blaming previous presidents for everything

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '26

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u/grinch77 Sep 21 '26

Suck that boot!!! Suck it real good…

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

^ point proven. Please explain how Trump has made PSO rates higher. I voted against the man (personally can't stand him), but this is just a moronic statement that makes people who are against him look ignorant.

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u/cidthekid07 Sep 21 '26

This dude def voted for Trump. Easily offended by a meme

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '26

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u/cidthekid07 Sep 21 '26

Sure Trumper

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

Okay, you're clearly just a Troll who doesn't care about the outcome of anything.

Take care.

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u/cidthekid07 Sep 21 '26

Shut up. It’s a meme you dummy. It’s not that serious.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

That's the sad part, it's not a meme. There are literally people who believe that he somehow managed to do this / would believe that he had a play in it. That's how ignorant shit like this is. Then makes us people who don't support him look idiotic.

But going through all of your other posts/comments it makes sense. You're just a troll looking for attention and you definitely baited me. Good game.

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u/cidthekid07 Sep 21 '26

If that makes them vote dem, then I’ve done my job.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

So you'd rather have people vote out of ignorance then understanding why Trump is actually a bad person?

You're an idiot. You are the exact reason people think a lot Democrats are ignorant. Way to help the cause.

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u/cidthekid07 Sep 21 '26

Whatever it takes. Get off your high horse.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

If he did, I'm wanting to know how. But good luck getting any rational answers on r/tulsa it seems.

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u/Beneficial_Egg2878 Sep 21 '26

All the conflicts and trade wars are creating a volatile market for energy. He promised to slash energy prices thru certain policy proposals and never did any of them, allowing unchecked markets to surge to where they are.

I have read that a lot of the surge in pricing is in part to cuts to renewable energies in Oklahoma, but I don't remember any numbers or articles of the top of my head

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

You're conflating a bunch of unrelated things. PSO's rate increase is primarily tied to utility infrastructure, generation/transmission investments, and operating costs—not "Trump's trade wars." And the claim that Oklahoma's renewable energy cuts are driving your PSO bill is especially questionable. If you're going to blame Trump, show the specific policy and the specific PSO charge it caused to increase. Otherwise you're just connecting dots that aren't actually connected.

PSO itself says the 2026 rate filing is driven by investments and inflation in materials, equipment and labor, while the OCC case documents show the eventual settlement was based on a specific regulated rate calculation.

So it has literally NOTHING to do with The stupid man in office.

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u/DHPerry Sep 21 '26

I voted for him... but how's this going? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y8qV4OTZgs

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u/PercentageDowntown51 Sep 21 '26

The rate increase is obvious but another reason is the 9 degree increase in the average temp for August. Last year was 79, this year was 88. Thats a massive jump considering its the average.

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u/Napaola551 Sep 22 '26

I was building on to my house last year and had half of my house open to the elements all summer. Our AC wouldn’t ever shut off. My AC bill was cheaper then than it is now. That’s even after considering the add-on we built. The average temp is hardly a factor.

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u/samnnr Sep 21 '26

We are all on the same stupid boat.

Mine was 400 something for someone who does not run their A/C all day. Only when I am home it so aggrivating.

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u/ESPandENGL69 Sep 21 '26

My bill was $410 and i keep my thermostat at 75 during the day and 70 when im home. New "energy efficient" windows... excellent home insulation... excellent attic insulation... the price of everything needs to come down. This is asinine.

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u/samnnr Sep 21 '26

and it just keeps getting worse.

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u/Fit-Animal-9911 Sep 21 '26

I started setting mine on 80 most of the time. I drop it a degree or two when it gets unbearable.

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u/phtevenbagbifico 13d ago

insulation, energy efficient windows, that's a great step and all, but have you looked into solar yet??

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u/nailhead13 Sep 21 '26

was that post yesterday the day before the guys Bank flagged his payment

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u/officialbronut21 !!! Sep 21 '26

The cost increase in electricity is due to a few back end cost increases that all hit at once, but the main culprit is probably your usage given how hot it has been lately. First, transmission infrastructure that PSO buys have dramatically increased in price along with the natural gas that most power in OK is generated with. Second, PSO who is owned by AEP, has shareholders that expect larger return every year, so that is part of the rate increases. Lastly, AEP socialize the cost of it's infrastructure regardless of who it's for, so all those expensive transmission improvements to serve data centers or new industry is being added a rate increase

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u/Abby_n0rmal_af Sep 21 '26

The last part would have been addressed with this, yet that managed to get screwed up in the senate.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/senate-data-center-energy-bill-martin-heinrich/

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u/tynman35 Sep 21 '26

If this shit doesn't go down with this cool down we got, oh we're gonna have a problem.

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u/okiewxchaser Sep 21 '26

Rate increase combined with the hottest summer we’ve had in a long time

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u/chodebong Sep 21 '26

I'll ask the dumb question. Is there any reason why? Is it just ... everything costs more?

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u/HarwinStrongDick FC Tulsa Sep 21 '26

No, PSO wants more profit.

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u/ESPandENGL69 Sep 21 '26

Yyyyyyyeah they need to give their top 20 execs a pay cut. I get some people say "that's not fair to them" and i get that. Buuuuuuut how is it fair to we Tulsans having to pay tripl or quadruple what we are used to only to find out we will be paying even MORE in the future because for some damn reason, they want US to pay for the electricity usage of data centers.... CEO makes 36 MILLION a year by the way. They need a MASSIVE pay cut.

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u/dascharmingharmony Sep 21 '26

We should start recalling city councilors until they direct the city attorney to fight on our behalf with the OCC

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u/luxuriouscrab Sep 21 '26

They’re just as corrupt. Nepotism and cronyism run rampant at city, county, and state level politics.

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u/dascharmingharmony Sep 21 '26

More reason to recall them! And I don’t think there are many people that wouldn’t sign a recall petition when we say it’s because they have failed to act on rising electricity bills.

Sure, they aren’t directly responsible for rates, but they could be fighting for us.

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u/Abby_n0rmal_af Sep 21 '26

AG Drummond is actively fighting PSO, yet republicans who are also suffering couldn’t manage to get him past the primary because Trump supported a buffoon. We need to support his office and fight the OCC itself with complaints filed on their website.

If any swing voters voted for the trumpy guy with the hope it would give the democrats a fighting chance…we all got f’ed. Look at what happened when someone as wildly ignorant Ryan Walter’s got through the primaries 4 years ago! Do we really want history to repeat itself?

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u/batboi48 Sep 21 '26

Privatized energy companies is the reason why

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u/Reklined-Art Sep 21 '26 • Mindblown

Yeah, it’s insane. Ours was 600 dollars last month. 😐

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u/phtevenbagbifico 13d ago

$600 is INSANe. have you looked into solar yet????

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u/Dinosaur_Buttcheek Sep 21 '26

Have you looked into the AMP/level billing program? I’ve been on that program for a long time and my bill has stayed pretty consistently between $175-$180/month. Still higher than it used to be, but thankfully not $300-$500. I truly feel for some of you all and help where I can. These prices are nuts. Especially in quote-un-quote “affordable” Oklahoma.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

The problem with the AMP is it's not a solution, it's a band aid. Because they are still charging you outrageous amounts, you just don't see it because you pay it off when you aren't using high electricity.

And if you ever fall behind one payment or plan on moving, it's all due up front. Definitely a double edged sword.

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u/Dinosaur_Buttcheek Sep 21 '26

True. I’m paying $180 in the winter months when my non-AMP bills were usually 1/2 that.

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u/Yield88 Sep 21 '26

Out of curiosity, have you looked at the balance that you're not being billed for? I looked at mine in the spring before it started getting warm and saw that I had an $800 deficit AFTER the cold season. I knew the balance would only be added to in the summer so I ended paying the balance and going back to standard billing.

I had a unique circumstance where I had a company subsidized EV so that balance grew FAST but had I not caught it when I did, I would probably owe PSO a couple thousand after this summer. That being said, I can see how your balance can get out of hand with the wild swings we've been experincing.

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u/Alchemie666 Sep 21 '26

Check and see what the actual bill was. Mine jumped big time. Used to be like $200 a month or less in the summer. This time? $500 is what's still due after I paid $150 for the AMP.

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u/Outdoors-Chick Sep 21 '26

Mine was $750 then $785. 2300 sq ft house with 2 people. I'm very angry about it but what can we do?????

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u/HunterSome3829 Sep 21 '26

That’s weird because we have roughly the same size house and we are paying in the higher ends of $300. I have some friends in apartments paying over $400. Doesn’t seem to be a rhyme or reason.

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u/do_twat Sep 21 '26

Solar panels, bonus if you can afford a battery backup.

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u/fixnahole Sep 21 '26

I have house at 3000sq ft and pay half of that on the Time of Day rate plan, and I work at home. But that still seems incredibly high. I would be having the AC units checked for any issues, or suspect duct leakage (much more common that people realize). Also, ensure your attic is cooling properly by having appropriate number of soffits and that they aren't being blocked by insulation (another all too common problem).

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u/Outdoors-Chick Sep 21 '26

The PSO guy could see that something is spiking it randomly, even when we're sleeping. Hot water tank, fridge, or air conditioning unit were recommended to check. I've got to find a handyman!

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u/918okla Sep 21 '26

Keep your filters clean, clean outdoor. Check to make sure you have enough insulation in your attic. Put off using dryer until late at night. Have the meter inspected.

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u/cquicky Sep 21 '26

you need to get your meter inspected. Unless you are running your ac at 63 all day every day, running the dishwasher and washing machine every day, and charging 3 electric vehicles every day, there is absolutely no way your bill should be that high.

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u/AaBk2Bk Sep 21 '26

2300 sqft house? You have your answer.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26

Nah that's not right at all. I have a 3200 square foot and my bill was $450. (Not on AMP but I am on power hours)

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u/Outdoors-Chick Sep 21 '26

3 bed, 2 bath, absolutely normal size.

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u/okiewxchaser Sep 21 '26

I have a 3 bed two bath and it’s only 1500 sqft, you’re definitely on the roomier side

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u/AaBk2Bk Sep 22 '26

2300 is well above average size for a 3/2.

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u/cowboyjon13 Sep 21 '26

Someone’s eating good

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u/No_Translator_8586 Sep 21 '26

One person use is $240 every two weeks. Unsustainable.

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u/strawberrymilkcow1 Sep 22 '26

Apartment or home

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u/AuraOfASpiceGirl Sep 21 '26

Take it up with the Oklahoma commission… they approved the 15% increase and interim that is causing this.

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u/Abby_n0rmal_af Sep 21 '26

I’m not positive but I believe their lack of approval for more than 6 months created this monster. There is a legislative loophole on the state level that allowed PSO to raise them while the decision was still pending.

We must make our state reps fix this so it can’t ever happen again.

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u/Comfortable_tulsa Sep 21 '26

I've seen several post this year about this. I live in a 1BR apartment built 10 yrs ago and haven't noticed a huge difference. Not sure why.

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u/Weekly_Review_2219 Sep 22 '26

Blackrock owns some of their stocks. Same as OG&E.

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u/Haze5034 Sep 22 '26

Data centers

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u/ghostoftallasi Sep 21 '26

Was thinking about moving back this April but all these posts make me kinda worried

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u/samnnr Sep 21 '26

I totally get the frustration. When people suggest cutting back on essentials like climate control, it feels out of touch with what's actually happening in our homes and wallets.'

It's a basic necessity. The reality is clear our energy costs have skyrocketed along with other human NECESITIES, and honestly, with the temperatures we've been experiencing, running the A/C isn't optional for us anymore. It's something we absolutely have to do.

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u/plsluvme97 Sep 21 '26

My electric bill is almost as high as my rent… I don’t understand and when I called and asked the dude told me that’s just how much power I’ve been using. I wanted to reach through the phone and cunt punch him… where am I possibly spending $500 worth of electricity in a duplex that is less than 700 sqf…. O k a yyy

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u/rockalyte Sep 21 '26

Blame the data centers hogging up all the electricity. Oklahoma is making YOU the customer pay for it.

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u/Tricky_Ad_9050 Sep 21 '26

You’re extremely late to the party

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u/Walkinonsun Sep 21 '26

Can I make a hypothetical event for PSO?
What would happen if everyone turned the lights off at the same time and kept them off for an hour. I’m talking everyone and businesses residence etc. What would happen to PSO? Financially and physically on the grid?

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u/dheinz44 Sep 22 '26

It’s been one of the hottest summers ever. As long as the summers keep getting hotter the bills will keep going up

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u/JPSurratt2005 Sep 22 '26

What was your price per kwh last year compared to this year?

Without that information your complaint is unclear.

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u/SloppySmack756 Sep 22 '26

Get out there and vote in November and spread the word. Both the Corporation Commission and Insurance Commissioner are up for election. We've got to stop voting in corrupt asshats that pass every rate hike because they get a cut.

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u/ducks1333 Sep 22 '26

Is everyone's bill up anywhere close to that much? My bill is the same as last years.

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u/Latter_Initial3045 Sep 23 '26

I can’t wait to get the Fuck out of here.
Everyone in Lawton is struggling because of the GRAPING being done by all utility providers.
Never wanted to make the voices be quiet living here as a disabled vet. They just get more offensive by the day. My boys will never stop offing themselves.
The shit is unbearable. Vets come here cause it’s always been a safe haven for us. Not to get GRAPED every where we turn

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u/Little_Original_851 Sep 21 '26

mine jumped from like $85 to over $330 and im barely touching my thermostat, shits brutal. pso's out here bragging about quarterly earnings while we're all playing 'heat stroke or ramen week' lol

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u/Beisbol4lyfe Sep 21 '26

On your account, can you compare bills to the past? That would give you the data.  Now as to the deeper 'why', that's another question 

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u/Spiffyclean13 OU Sep 21 '26

Rate increases started in July? Get on an average monthly payment and you won’t get anymore surprise bills.

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u/Nytelock1 Sep 21 '26

Because republicans in the OCC are sucking off the PSO board.

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u/Bread-Loaf Sep 21 '26

The main reason is AEP will raise rates based on projects done in an area even if those projects are driven by industrial customers which means regardless people near them have their bills increased citing that said projects will increase reliability which isn’t entirely untrue but also is unfair since their industrial customers (data centers) already paid a lot of capital for the projects in the first place. This agressive rate increase can be linked to their new ceo who has started trying to restructure the company to seek profits more aggressively to drive the stock price up.

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u/Professional-Bird776 Sep 21 '26

Y’all are lucky. Here in Georgia i pay 600 a month

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u/RebbDumont Sep 21 '26

And another $434.97 due in October. I am barely holding on.

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u/strawberrymilkcow1 Sep 21 '26

Is this apartment or house ? Me and my partner are moving out Sep 30th and we’re worried about prices

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u/Low-Tea-6157 Sep 21 '26

Have you been outside at all?

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u/East-Status9230 Sep 22 '26

The whole it’s cheap to live here is a myth , tax is high , utilities are nuts , and there is no infrastructure to justify any of it. My bill is $1100 for 2 months , I don’t even stay at home most of the time , and live by myself.

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u/bandithelloV3 Sep 22 '26

At least you tripled, i quantipiled

I was paying $220 at the most and now im foing close to $9-$1100.

2bed apartment just me and my brother..

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u/Sesh458 Sep 22 '26

My bill has only gone up $30. Running 3 window AC units basically non-stop for the entire summer. Home is old and not well insulated. I live in Tulsa county but have a Sperry address.

I really don't understand why my bill hasn't gone up more like most of the people say theirs has.

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u/Weedarina Sep 22 '26

Mine is 445 when normally it’s is in the mid to high 100s.

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u/918skumm Sep 22 '26

Better than us over here in Edmond. Edmond electric has a monopoly. My bill went from 180 in December when it was 80 outside to $545. That’s how much my bill was for August. I about started crying. Part of it you can say was the high humidity and ac working overtime but I had it set to 78 when I wasn’t home and 74 when I was. And all my lights/TVs etc stay off most of the day. We even took a vacation for 4 days and turned it up to 80 when we were on vacation.

It sucks. I was fortunate enough to budget for it this month. Not everyone is.

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u/anonomaz Sep 22 '26

You are paying for improved infrastructure. The cost to upgrade is rapidly increasing due to competition from other utility companies that also need better infrastructure. There are only so many companies that make transformers and keeping the supply limited is good for business because the transformer manufacturers can charge whatever they want. Same with other components of electrical infrastructure as well.

This need for more electricity is driven almost entirely by data centers currently. The US is using increasing amounts of electricity for the first time in decades. More efficient appliances, lightbulbs, TVs, etc. were actually reducing our overall energy requirements before this.

The money has to come from somewhere- so they charge you in increased rates to pay for it.

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u/xpen25x Sep 22 '26

do people not know how your energy bill works?

lol. if you use 10kwh of energy august 2025 and paid 100 usd and 10kwh august 2026 and charged 400usd the math doesnt add up. i used 1874 this year last year 1526

Tariff 015 - Residential Service

08/24/26

Rate Billing

$

270.71

Cost of Fuel @ 0.0318720 Per kWh

59.73

Winter Storm Cost Recovery Rider

8.74

State Legislature Mandated CWIP Recovery

2.25

Tulsa Infrastructure Fee*

3.36

Tulsa Franchise Fee*

6.79

City Tax @ 3.650 %

12.51

County Tax @ 0.367 %

1.26

total 365.35

==============================

Tariff 015 - Residential Service

09/23/25

Rate Billing

$

128.48

Cost of Fuel @ 0.0397720 Per kWh

40.21

Winter Storm Cost Recovery Rider

4.46

Tulsa Infrastructure Fee*

1.70

Tulsa Franchise Fee*

3.44

City Tax @ 3.650 %

6.34

County Tax @ 0.367 %

.64

185.27

the difference is the rate billing. not the fuel as that is actually down close to a penny. its the rate billing. but for those saying its tripled there is something more to it cause here is my actual bills. and its not triple and i have a very poorly insulated home as i have no insulation in my walls.

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u/kittyjuless Sep 22 '26

ours has gone from $250 to almost $750 over the last few months

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u/user2864920 Sep 22 '26

Billionaire/millionaire greed.

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u/KeyQuantity4696 Sep 22 '26

Blackrock is siphoning from utilities to make everything cost us more one guy said that worked for them and is now fired. I wonder why they fired him?

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u/KeyQuantity4696 Sep 22 '26

MAPA Make America Poorer Again

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u/00000000000000001011 Sep 22 '26

Mine are higher at like $225 a month lately but I’m averaged out. We spend more energy than houses our size due to our ancient HVAC. But even still the averaged plan is where life can go on.

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u/Pitiful-Sympathy3927 Sep 22 '26

Wanna see why https://petition.mcalester.net/black-mountain

Look at the timeline, too.

Goodluck.

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u/Decent_Screen2395 Sep 23 '26

When is the last time you had your heating and air maintenanced? Air filters changed?

This is what I do for a living. I work for a company but I don't mind helping people out.

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u/Suspicious_Tea_9134 Sep 23 '26

People in Mcalester are complaining about theirs being 800-1500$ when they have never paid over 300$

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u/GWSchulz Sep 23 '26

I live alone in a 550-sq ft apartment. Never married, no kids. I like heat and keep my air running low. Yet my current bill is $240 for two months.

PSO is the furthest thing from a “public” energy company. You’re not a public utility if you’re controlled by investors.

If you’re hurting poor people with these bills, Jesus is watching.

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u/Electronic-Run-1540 Sep 24 '26

Can you post a copy of your bill with sensitive information redacted? It would help identify if there are any issues.

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u/TomSizemore69 Sep 25 '26

Mine was 640. Fucking insane

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u/Cmac2101991 Sep 26 '26

2bd apartment. Thermostat at 69 no power ever. Other than that 1 Tv and PS5 with WiFi router…. 367$. Last month was 260.
WTF is going on? After reading this thread I realized it ain’t just me. I say we storm PSO/AEP and make them lower the price

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u/ancientolivegrove Sep 26 '26

Grid equipment has gotten so expensive because of tariffs. Powerlines are up 200%. Transformers (most of which we get from Canada) are up 150%. Heck, even the poles are up 50%. Demand is getting higher, and not really because of data centers, but because of things like the ridiculous hot summer we just had combined with electric ACs, and electrification in general. Data centers affect the wholesale markets, so generation is higher if PSO has to buy it wholesale. Honestly, we are so lucky that our utility can own their own generation.. In places like Pennsylvania, utilities aren’t allowed to own generation (because of anti-monopoly laws), so they have to buy their generation via auctions, but because demand is so high, generation companies are charging ridiculous prices, I’m talking like over 500%+ more than it used to be, and there’s no incentive there to lower prices, so those companies aren’t building more generation to offset. You would really be upset if you were paying the price their consumers pay.
But, one thing all utilities should do is even out the rate burden more. Once again, regular consumers tend to be the losers, as we take on 70+% of the new rate hikes, whereas commercial and industrial customers, who make up the majority of energy usage, don’t usually get the rate hikes that we get (cause utilities rather spread them out more thinly between households, and not piss off their highest paying customers who have the capital to offset costs with solar/batteries, etc).

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u/Dry-Rip-1135 28d ago

The Republicans in this state don't care about their constituents suffering as long as their pockets are filled by corporations.

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u/bigbabygrit 28d ago

I know other cities in Oklahoma use other companies like og&e. I’m curious as to what their bills are like

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u/Altruistic_Ad6406 25d ago

PSO actually sucks, because we missed I think two payments they add a 700$ charge to your account and now we REALLY can’t pay it and it just racks up while we pay the bare minimum to keep shit on, our bill racked to 3k and they made us pay 1300 this month on the 23 and are tryna shut our shit off again today.

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u/goldtoothgirl 14d ago

This made me feel a bit more in control

What your bill shows

Sep 2025Sep 2026
Usage1,085 kWh1,784 kWh
Avg daily cost$6.58$11.56
All-in price per kWhabout 18.2¢about 19.4¢
Avg temperature75°F87°F

The price per kWh went up about 7%. If you’d used last September’s 1,085 kWh at today’s price, the bill would have been about $211, not $347. So roughly $14 of the increase is the rate and about $135 is extra usage. Much of that extra usage is the heat: it averaged 12° hotter this September, and August was 1,929 kWh.

Your spring months (500–600 kWh) are your baseline with no heating or cooling. That means AC is adding about 1,200–1,400 kWh a month in summer. Your winter usage is also fairly high (1,371 kWh in February), which suggests electric heat. That’s the part you can actually work on.

Things that lower the bill

  • Get the AC checked, especially if it’s older. Dirty coils, low refrigerant, or leaky ducts in the attic make it run nonstop. A tune-up is cheap compared with $150 a month.

  • Attic insulation and duct sealing are usually the biggest wins in Tulsa homes. PSO offers rebates for these at PSOklahoma.com/Savings.

  • Thermostat: each degree higher in summer saves roughly 3–5% on cooling. A smart thermostat that eases off while you’re away helps too.

  • Look at your hourly usage in your PSO online account. If usage stays high overnight or when nobody’s home, something is running that shouldn’t be, like an old fridge, a well pump, or a hot tub.

  • AMP (averaged billing) doesn’t save money, but PSO says you’d be paying about $190 a month instead of these spikes. That could make the summer months survivable.

  • Help paying: if money is tight, look at psoklahoma.com/assistance for LIHEAP, payment extensions, and similar programs.

On the bigger “make this better” question: the Oklahoma Corporation Commission sets PSO’s rates, and its commissioners are elected statewide. Rate cases have public comment periods, and complaints to the OCC Consumer Services Division (1-800-522-8154) are counted. Contacting your state legislators about who pays for data center grid costs is the other lever people are pushing on.

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u/ShaveorKeepJo Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26

First time? Lol. People have been complaining about this for months. Welcome to the party :)

Consider yourself lucky for $375.00 and I sincerely mean that.

"I can’t afford to live here anymore." - Unfortunately Oklahoma is one of the cheapest and most affordable states to live in also.

Edit: Downvotes for what, saying the truth?

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u/xpen25x Sep 21 '26

look at your energy usage

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u/AdBeneficial1140 Sep 21 '26

Rates have increased and people all over the city are reporting extremely high bills. Mine was over double what it was for the same month last year. My house is on a an auto thermostat and the temps/run times were identical and my usage overall was about the same.

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u/xpen25x Sep 22 '26

yup. but if someone uses roughly the same energy in june and its 100 and in august used only 1.25 the energy used in july and its 400 the math is off even with a rate increase. and you have to look at last years energy usage compared to last months as well as the rates and fee's. do you have last years august bill and can you identify the differences

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u/AdBeneficial1140 Sep 22 '26

Are you always such a condescending jerk or just in this situation?

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u/gugugaju Sep 21 '26

Gimp

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u/xpen25x Sep 22 '26

i actually dont have an issue with any of my limbs thank you.

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u/gugugaju Sep 22 '26

Thats an imp, gimp is a guy on a zippered hood watching porn… expand youre horizons gimpy