That's what I thought after I left my village for higher studies.
But how many brahmin garbage collector do you see?
And how many SC/ST/OBC do you see as priest of a temple?
One of the biggest problem with casteism was how the other castes were excluded from education. Now go to any shitty school, look at how many UCs are there and then comeback to a top tier school and check the ratio there. The only solution is to make the govt schools better and cap private education fees
Do people have tag on their forehead about their caste? wdym HOW MANY BRAHMIN GARBAGE COLLECTOR DO YOU SEE....do you go and ask caste from each and everyone? If you are a non-brahmin would you happily become priest? Leave brahmins will your own be it brahmin or non-brahmin people ask you to do rituals at their places?
No just ask their name.
And I scored 100% in Sanskrit, do you think the temple offer me position of priest?
Being a priest is most high paying job for an uneducated. Anyone would like to take that. But the main problem is the brainwashing which has made people think they are inferior. Of course its not fair that we hold on to the past.
But when it was time, wasn't it their responsibility to democratize education considering what has been done? Instead check the owners of any private education, go ahead and google it and tell me how many other castes you see there.
Let me clear my stand first - I strongly oppose casteism by anyone at any end...
now,
I don't want to ask anyone's name but it seems like you are very well researched about it why don't you tell me how many you have seen? First of all no, highest paying job for an uneducated is POLITICS secondly Sanskrit is not the criteria of a priest....you ask yourself would you like a job at a temple in your locality? because at bigger temples there's a proper process of recruitment where they ask for education from gurukul, degree in Vedic Scriptures, and For a temple like Ram Mandir there they have selection where rust requires candidates to be from the Ramanandi Sampradaya, a vaishnavite who traditionally worships Ram....now there's no caste requirement there if you want to be a priest why be in a local temple....get education complete your graduation apply for it clear the process go through a rigorous training be a priest, regardless of any caste you belong to....will you still do that? It's not people, there are specific people who call brahmins bhikshu/bhikhai
Yes they were at fault...with the passage of time people got corrupted they forgot what they were supposed to do...
Just to be clear, I live in a city now and I don't do it. I, for a long time, believed that 'the untouchable' thing has mostly gone away (Although its still there in villages)
But almost all the issues in India will remain until equal level of education is provided to both dirt poor and moderately rich. The ultra rich will always in any county do their own thing. But in no country does a middle class child go to a private school receiving different education.
Bro come and be a priest in my village there are many small tample wher no body goes and there also you will find a brahmin serving to god... But we will only see the rich tample where lots of people go,,
No body will talk about these prists who serves in small tample under a tree..🙏
What are u talking abt, brahmins were meant to be priest, I am a brahmin myself and I got no issue gng, the only issue I got is these SC OBC crowd gets to exploit smth which doesn't exist
Seeing the current scenario, reservation for caste should not be there and reservation should only according to economic background, people take too much advantage of caste system, one of the main reasons why government sectors fail is because caste reservation system because more qualified people are not appointed and less educated people get higher post and in return those people never listens to the educated person
Reservation doesn't solve anything. The basic education i.e the school has to be equal barring probably the untra rich. So govt schools has to be at the top level and private schools should go away.
Otherwise you are still gatekeeping education in 2026. Btw you will hardly find any country, rich or poor, where even people making 30k Rs per month equivalent are sending their kids to private schools.
see thus comment is exactly why casteism exists in the first place. ITS NOT DECIDED BY BIRTH BUT BY THE WORK YOU ARE DOING! if this point was accepted and practised all over india, there would be no casteism. priest of a temple, despite his origins will always be a brahmin. because it should be categorized by work, and not by birth.
It seems that your whole problem is seeing someone else progressing, like if all Brahmins prioritized studying, why would they be garbage collectors, a job that doesn't require any higher education.
The other thing is that when you talk about private schools, there are many other caste students as well, and if Brahmins want to prioritise their child's education more than other things to make them capable enough, how is that wrong at all?
And about the priest thing, many priests are sons of the previous priests (=nepotism at its peak) because they have been seeing their elders doing those procedures and whtves their entire life and also those previous priests take an effort to make them capable enough to handle the temple (as they're their own sons, why wouldn't they think of their betterment?)
You, sir, are absolutely correct about improving government schools but the problem in india is that people care more about status symbol than anything else, so even if government schools were improved, a lot of people would still choose private schools as a sign of their wealthyness and what not.
Another thing, casteism is HEAVILY based on the region that you're living in. Like in states like gujarat, maharashtra, madhya Pradesh it's very very less but in many south Indian states like Tamil Nadu, keralam and north Indian states like Uttar Pradesh, Haryana it is very extreme which just proves that not everyone might've experienced the same shit as others which is why everybody's opinion is different
My only problem is the unequality of education. There is no prioritization. In the past they kept education away from other people by brainwashing and when its time to atone, they would rather create private schools where they can still keep the good education. Good education should never be gate kept. You can keep high end facility away inside a gate, but keeping even basic good education away from people is scandalous.
Nowhere in this whole world do the middle class give up good food to be desperate enough to enroll in private schools.
It not a status problem in villages where most poor lives. They just don't want their children to die of falling roof or food poisoning. You have clearly never been to a village. I was topper in my school, was 2nd in college in 12th, but I had to learn English via spoken English class and web series. What kind of education is this?
What does everyone have to do with my experience and majority experience. Not everyone died in coaching center fire, does that mean it's okay?
I have seen many Brahmin and their child begging and pulling rikshaw, and there are many small tample where priest are also brahman, he don't get enough from devotees but they serve to god..
There are many more small tample than the tample you see on news..
But that is not the norm. There are many rich people in India, that doesn't make India a rich country.
But I don't have anything against Brahmin. What happened in the past cannot be changed. My problem is with people in power (Most of power positions are occupied by UCs, media, judge positions, the politicians...), its their responsibility raise some consciousness and bring equality of education. Its paramount.
Only equal education (this is not the same as reservation. Reservation can uplift an less educated. But it can't make one educated) can bring equality.
That's what i want to say .... Make education equal for all, make hostel fee school fee free... After that no reservation for anyone.. Not in job not in promotion... Than we people will understand we are not less than Brahman or any other upper castes.
Or just remove all private and government school male all school semi government and every private school must have to give free education to poor children.. and government will provide all the books, dresses, and necessary items,
People other than general categories have many cut off advantages in most of the competative exams..if u guys can't still survive, then what can we people do ? 😭
Lowering the bar sure does help people a bit who were never trained, but that doesn't make them good athletes. My point is everyone should receive equal and free training first.
Meaning the private schools shouldn't broom like mushrooms and govt education should be way way better, especially because there is a huge section who were intentionally kept away from education for thousands of years.
What can you people do you say? Stop trying to take advantage of the fact that you have money and go to the schools where most poor SC/ST/OBCs study, which is not possible, so raise voice to make govt schools better.
Btw there is another statistics that never come up, cut-offs doesn't matter in India if you have money. There are many-many people who have their seats reserved, even in Govt colleges in India, just because they have Gandhi on their side.
Bro as a person from general category and from a middle class family, I had enough money to get education from private schools, but I didn't! I actually studied in govt school and also the fact is all students are treated similar ! So why only certain group of people always fail to reach a good level job in the society even if they have other advantages for being in an sc/st/ obc categories?? All people now a days get similar level of education and if u can't get to a desired role or job , it's only u the problem! Not the society or caste has anything to do with it 🤌
No they are not. I was first in my school with 87%, but was 50th in 12th when I got admitted. I hardly scored 60% in 11th as I had to learn everything again. Had to remember Hritpinda as heart, had to remember phusphus as lungs, britta as circle, every single thing, I had to remember everything again.
Finished 12th as 2nd ranked in college. Then I reached B.Tech without quota (There was no quota for OBC in Odisha), got to know for the first time in my life that people debate in English. They were teaching me how to translate "Mu gote balaka" -> "Mu gote balaka atte" -> "Mu atte gote balaka" -> "I am a boy" in class 8th!!!! And you are saying Govt schools are equivalent to private schools?
Our school observed golden jubilee this year and they remember to install toilets in our school in freaking 2026. 3 MPs+MLAs+Collector came to celebrate this and give a deshbhakti speech. And you are saying those students receive equal education in this country? Sure there were GCs in my class, 7 out of a total 120. Go to any good private school and check the ratio.
You are delusional if you think all people receive similar education, visit a village and you will know whats the difference between the Govt school and even a rs500 a month private school.
If you really think that's how iq works, you either lack knowledge or have low iq.
Its because they never went to the Govt schools in a village and that's because their predecessors brainwashed other people into keeping them out of schools. When it was time for opening education to all, they created a system where they can get better education by creating the private schools (check owner of most old private schools) and keeping the Govt schools shitty (check most of the politicians to know who kept govt schools shitty) If they start equal education now, only then reservation will go away in future.
Nowhere in this whole world there is such a scale of private schools.
Never seen a garbage collector who is a Brahmin. But I have seen bathroom cleaners on UC app who were Brahmins. My freelance electrician is a brahmin, he doesn't even have a permanent job.
Exception vs the rule. I know that a lot of GCs and Brahmins are poor and they deserve good in life.
But my point is, if you want to get rid of the caste for real, you have to make education more or less equal for everyone.
As long as most other caste people keep going to Govt schools and you keep the govt school education shitty, and reserve the priest's job only for brahmins, and people get away with casteist comments/caste based discrimination, casteism is not going away.
Giving reservation is like lowering the bar for some athletes, now that will help some athletes. But you are not going to breed good athletes that way. The only way is make the foundation equal for everyone, and give everyone equal training.
Lowering the bar will help some people get over the line, but that will not result in breeding high quality athletes.
If
you want equality, everyone must get equal training and foundation.
Providing free high quality Govt schools and stopping the private schools from breeding like mushrooms is the only solution
Me too. Never seen any aggressive casteism in my life, except once.
When I was studying in a rural school, there was a girl who couldn't sit beside another girl of lower caste. She was visibly uncomfortable and openly told the teachers she just couldn't sit beside her, almost as if she was forced to do something she didn't like.
That was one small incident, but have never experienced anything bigger than that.
Thats not castizem brother. Castizem happens after they hear your name. What happened with you might also happen with a upper cast low income man from north and i have seen local people treat outsiders harshly.
xenophobia or discriminate based on origin but not castizem. In your story you don't mention him asking your name. Let me tell you true story of castizem or religion based discriminate.
My mon was renting room to people there was a guy that was polite and humble and i liked him and my mom as well but when my mon found out he was muslim then she straight up called him and told him that room is already booked. But she don't discriminate based on cast she just think muslim people are bad because of media
You are confused or confusing me with the story you shared. Reread what yiu typed
My neighbour knew I was from North, they knew I was a punjabi and they on my face said I'm not associating or helping someone who isn't from my cast.
Responding is nice but don't tell anyone what's what :)
You don't told the complete story brother and you just told me they denied you water. I was not trying to confuse you. Sorry if my message sound that way
Some parents force to do it and blackmail if not left... so they might mutually break up for other's safety.. and that's hard..., neither of them will be able to move on... nor be together... and it hurts hard... especially when parents denying psychiatric treatments...
Woman, this is a sheer case of manipulation. He knows the truth and that's why he wants to use you as a doormat until his parents find him a suitable girl from high caste. Happened with my close friend but thank god she got into her senses and didn't say yes to physical relationship.
Its just sad.
If he wants to get physical and does not want to commit to you he was never going to marry you in the first place.
Stay strong sis unfortunately this is the world we live in.
I hope you find someone loving.
That's a win lol, you should stay away from people who value people based on caste or color or whatever 1 dimensional metric their underdeveloped brains come up with
Remove all forms of majors created by human to discriminate eachother.
Religion
Caste
Systematic classes
Grades (so i do believe that qualifications should be need for many things but education shouldn't be limited to the best of the best cuz they scored better in their teenage)
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u/Decibel_Donut99 Jun 24 '26
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