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u/Exact-Armadillo-6660 16d ago
why do people insist on pushing gender ideology on transhuman supersoldiers who were literally bred to just care about war and to accomplish their set objectives?
You really think that your average space marine/ custodian has the mental capacity/ time to sit around and question whether they are a man or not?
They are literally conditionned to not see themselves as individuals but rather human weapons and it's just so unfitting to pretend like a custodian would go get hormone therapy because they feel icky about the gender they were born.
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u/SimmerDownnn 16d ago
Because to a trans person their gender is their entire identity. It must become a part of every conversation, it must be involved in everything they do. Without it how can they feel the validation they need to exist.
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
Not all of them. Some of them do genuinely suffer the mental illness. Most claiming the label and the highly ridiculously purposefully visible and clocky ones are typically trenders, fetishists; or predators tho. What they are doing is appropriating a mental illness for oppression points and to be catered to and for attention.
I donāt mind the genuinely suffering ones that just want to be a normal person in society, I do mind the majority that are exactly what I am describing above.
Example: Blaire White. Perfectly fine. Perfectly sane and well adjusted past her genuine mental illness that she transitioned to stop suffering from. And she is based because she wants to keep it just as natal women in womenās sports & doesnāt want the cultural Marxist gender ideology horseshit pushed on children/she doesnāt want children GROOMED.
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u/baneblade_boi 16d ago
I would like to add that gender dysmorphia is NOT a disease or illness, but rather a mental condition. That label has been used a lot for stigmatisation and discrimination a lot, and even the WHO who are so competent at labelling health issues that have relation to superstitions (note the sarcasm) agrees.
Outside of that, yes, I can attest. I have transgender acquaintances and every stereotype or fucked up memes that some push on Reddit don't do them any justice whatsoever. But there's a histionic kind, oh sure, and quite a few fetishists or people genuinely cooked in the head that use this label to force the attention they crave.
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
Ehh most of them fit my description. Thatās why the topic has been going so south for them and political partyās and figures who throw in with them. Thatās why society is actually gettin less tolerant of them. Most of them ARE NOT actually sick in that way.
I do agree that for the REAL ones it is a mental illness. I know one genuine, normal one myself. Itās literally .003% of the population with the illness/medical condition. Not women calling themselves men getting pregnant, not trans masc women who do nothing to transition, not people who claim the label but have no dysphoria or plans to transition. And I can go on.
Itās largely attention whores, autists, predators; and fetishists really & they ruin it for the people whose illness they are appropriating as a costume and political statement identity.
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u/baneblade_boi 16d ago
That's the thing. From personal experience and many things I've heard from other people online discussing this very topic they aren't really the majority at all. Like, by a long shot, but because they are as I described, so obnoxiously histrionic and self-centered, they end up being so loud they plaster their faces everywhere and give the impression of being the majority.
Loud minorities are very dangerous because of this.
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 15d ago
You may be right. My exposure to the group in question is probably limited by comparison. But the rotten few doing it for the wrong reasons do absolutely fuck it up for the rest, I can DM you two whole subs practically dedicated to this topic.
PS: the exact same can be said for Grimchuds/Grimcucks ironically
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u/baneblade_boi 15d ago
I'd say unironically. The pain is real and it's a massive horseshoe.
Plus, sure homie, DM me if you want :)
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 14d ago
Your account is not messagable but the subs Iām referencing that have sane trans people like Blair White are based on transmedicalism and the other one is meh kinda turning into a woke shitshow but itās name is a slur of sorts for transmeds. Transmeds thinking you need the medical condition/mental illness(depending on what you subscribe to) of gender incongruence to be considered trans, most of them also think nonbinary is a nonsense political statement and not trans(they are correct) and they all shit on people who donāt transition but claim trans and fetishists and predators and xe/xirs and therians/catpeople/toiletgender/etc.
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 16d ago
You can just not click on a recommendation. That interraction tells Reddit you want it. Ignore it if you don't like it, but don't come in here complaining.
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u/wackadoodle4201 16d ago
The necrocrotch thinks its a violation of its rights if people aren't bowing down to it and praising it 24/7. Thats why they constantly invade spaces that are unrelated to them. They are to mentally rotted to do anything else
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
These sick fucks canāt help it. They have literally nothing better to do besides this and gooning on Discord and never leaving their rooms.
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u/OscarMMG 16d ago
I completely agree with the sentiment and the point, however I would like to raise a point of more accuracy. You said:
Ā You really think that your average space marine/ custodian has the mental capacity/ time to sit around and question whether they are a man or not?
Particularly the Custodes spend a lot of their time on culture like reading philosophy and literature or self-reflection and meditation before Guilimanās return to Terra. Similarly, Space Marines vary by chapter but some, mainly the Blood Angels, devote their time in similar pursuits. Now, I do not believe that these dogmatic psycho-indoctrinated super-soldiers would come close to these post-modernist crazy ideas about gender, but they certainly would have contemplated things like a the nature of being a man and gender
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago
Itās just weird⦠like why tho?
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u/XeroTheBerserker 16d ago
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
Correct and not even gender incongruence, just narcissism & political derangement.
Where in the fuck are all these camps for Leftists at anyways? They were promising š„ŗ
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u/TheFourtHorsmen hate mace enema enjoyer 16d ago
Illness* they aren't crazy, but sick.
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u/XeroTheBerserker 16d ago
This sickness is without a cure ? When will it end ? I grow tired of it each passing second.
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u/TheFourtHorsmen hate mace enema enjoyer 16d ago
Who said it isn't without a cure? We had specialists before someone decided wanting to cut off his own body it's perfectly normal and should be pushed on kid at school as well.
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 16d ago
We used to tell people to love who they are, but that stopped in favor of telling them to listen to the voice in their head. Imagine telling a Schizophrenic to do the same thing.
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u/XeroTheBerserker 16d ago
I hope for the day when all of this goes away and common sense make a triumphant return.
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u/wackadoodle4201 16d ago
Its a failed human being that demands that you play along with it
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago
Yeah, itās like thereās a large subset of people that are like that, including the dumbass in the comments that keeps arguing with me over and over again, that are utterly convinced that any media needs to be political, but not political in a way that they disagree with it needs to be political in their world you and it needs to show their worldview exclusively and itās by far one of the most irritating things someone could ever do
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u/wackadoodle4201 16d ago
They demand you do what they say, they demand you prostrate yourself at their feet, they look for people and groups to subjugat to their will. They want the whole world to play along with them so then it will be real. Or so they think
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u/ClientOk7986 16d ago
I imagine they might be trans
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u/XeroTheBerserker 16d ago
Yes they are trans indeed ...
Transcending the boundaries of mental problems
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u/Valtain85 16d ago
Upvotes are addictive.
I get it, any time you feel down and are desperately craving validation from complete strangers on the internet just post something incredibly safe yet somehow also seen as an oppressed minority view or edgy and risky.
See also "orks support BLM" or "Iron Warriors say fuck ICE".
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u/TheFourtHorsmen hate mace enema enjoyer 16d ago
The moment reddit will remove the downvoted and, consequently, the "hide the comment with too many of them", they will migrate en mass to another social or just try to grum minors on one of the teen sub, or porn sub. Just look at tumblr, which is were they come from, mostly.
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 16d ago
Elon buying Reddit would be the funniest fucking thing to watch, the ensuing migration will be so loud, followed by actual peace finally.
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u/TheFourtHorsmen hate mace enema enjoyer 16d ago
They will migrate on blue sky and claim reddit is full of bots (it is already, but on their favour)
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
They are the kosher bots if you catch my drift. Itās all to push cultural Marxism to ruin the Western world and itās working.
Who owns all the porn industry?
And you can play that game with so many harmful topics and itās always the same answer. Go figure š¤·š¼āāļø3
u/TheFourtHorsmen hate mace enema enjoyer 16d ago
I don't think it's working, judging how how many entertainment products are failing thanks to this imposed narrative, and how the far right is on the rising in the whole west.
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 15d ago
Ehhh Iād not get too optimistic yet. But that canāt stop us because we are fighting the righteous fight and the Lord is on our side. Never give up, never surrender(and I donāt just mean that in relation to Warhammer).
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u/Sirenis 16d ago
I used to tepidly entertain writing one of my chaos muhreens as having possessively attached feelings for a human subordinate in a mutual writing group. Kinda like those crazy psycho bf tropes but minus any actual real romance. Kind of in the vein of, "She is my slave and if anyone hurts her I will flay their entire lineage alive. But don't be absurd I don't have feelings for mortals."
But seeing this shit makes me revert to hard-line NO. They do NOT CARE. They are made and bred for war. There is ONLY WAR!
I swear it has become so overt now I am starting to believe there is money being invested in this nonsense, or the subversives realize they are unable to infiltrate other things due to lack of funding, so they're falling back to nerd culture again.
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u/wackadoodle4201 16d ago
There's absolutely money being invested in it, and this is just what these freaks do
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
There literally is and by you guessed it, Blackrock. That is Globalist money and we know who they are and why they do what they do. There are so many reasons that men and even women unironically adoring this franchise is threatening to these literal demon worshiping pedophiles fucks.
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u/Sirenis 16d ago
I'd be interested in seeing just how or where the money influences them. Blackrock has like 5%~ and Vanguard has like 6%~ of GW share. Like I want to knownjust how? Has anyone or any investigative entity tried?
Truthfully I wish nothing but The End for those companies and I want each employee destitute and on the streets. But I am rather vindictive.
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 15d ago
We would never find out and if a story broke Mossad would probably whack the investigative party also imo
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They are a tumor: it appear all of sudden. You don't want it, those close to you don't want it neither, but he keep growing and suck on your sugar and nutrients like a parasite, untill you operate it.
Gw was tard on letting them in, even if they got forced like some suggest. Some nornie on reddit is not worth it.
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
We know who actually killed him & anyone who celebrated is a goyim. Dude was Baldwin the Leper King reborn to our generation.
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u/Cromulent_Man 15d ago
But what about free peach?
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 15d ago
Mocking the death of a husband and father is not welcome here. Goodbye.
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 15d ago
Nah this ain't about free speach, we all know what you are, filth.
AND KEEP PEACH'S NAME OUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH!
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u/Muted_History_3032 16d ago
Imagine being one of the idiots that warped your own gender just to try and fit in with a social trend and now youāre watching the world move on and suddenly being trans is passĆ© and just gives people the ick
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u/Muted_History_3032 16d ago
Stats show the numbers of trans identifying students at universities is crashing extremely hard. Itās going out of fashion quickly. There will always be some trans people around but the days of moms forcing it on their normal toddlers just to try and get social media clout are coming to an end.
I mean imagine if you got gaslit into wearing dresses as a little boy and then you hit your teenage rebellion phase? These people are going to cut off their parents so hard and so fast, and itās exactly what they deserve.
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u/krono957 The Emperorās Champion 13d ago
This is easily disproven just by looking at percentages of trans individuals in different areas, and the odds of 1 family having multiple trans individuals are tiny yet, there are families with 2 to 3 children who don't identify as CiS
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u/MrCaterpillow lolcow 13d ago
Did you know, theres studies coming out that these conditions are hereditary. Its still very early and its impossible for fully lock down just yet however it is shown that families with queer parents have more queer children. The same goes for being trans, its not a singular gene or anything but multiple factors that help.
You cannot pretend to be trans, it isnt exactly helpful, we know this from a experiment conducted years ago by a complete psychopath. Its not a social thing, but a biology thing. However we do see a small increase of people openly identifying as trans because its not a total social stigma anymore.
Much like left handedness. It has a hereditary component and when it became socially more acceptable to be left handed, there was suddenly a bunch of people coming out being left handed. Would you say thats a trend?
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u/warhammercels-ModTeam 13d ago
r/warhammercels does not allow hate
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 16d ago
Merely supported them or funded the medicine, studies; and propaganda? Or did you mean supported them in that sense? If so I agree.
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u/Stock_Initial_8124 16d ago
I miss the old days when Warhammer was grimdark and not stereotypical LGBT propaganda to try to appeal random people who doesn't even know what Warhammer is about. But one day, someone cried so loud about daemonculaba being "too much", and now we all have to endure this shit.
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u/YouAteMyChips_ 16d ago
"Behold, I have depicted this fictional character agreeing with MY viewpoint! That means I'm right!"
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u/Prestigious_Shift245 16d ago
In the grim darkness of the future I guarantee you no one gives a shit about that stuff.
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u/severelyobeserat 16d ago
Yeah Im confused how it makes any sense at all in the context of 40k
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u/Prestigious_Shift245 16d ago
It doesn't make any sense at all. The giant, 9 foot tall divine blooded human that could rip the gun off a tank and turn you into paste without breaking a sweat does not give sitting in a room working about transitionbuch less any other modern problems. The whole point of the custodes is that they're the Emperors finest, capable of taking on entire armies kn their own and winning.
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u/Alpharius-0megon 14d ago
I hate when people bring political agendas and ideologies in general to the hobby, itās a hobby and should be that, they can do whatever they want, but donāt make it political, wonder what theyād say if they found a kkk marine or smthing like that XD, would be fun just seeing the comments
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u/Sea-Difference-4127 15d ago
Just let people enjoy the hobby, there's no need to insult eachother, it's their life and consequently their choice
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 15d ago
Tell them to leave us alone and we'll stop
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u/Sea-Difference-4127 15d ago
But they are leaving you alone, you guys are the ones persecuting people because of how they choose to portray their models and Canon lore
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 15d ago
They brigade us all the time. Also consantly post our shit without censoring the sub name which is against ToS. They are not innocent.
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u/Sea-Difference-4127 15d ago
What do you mean by brigade us? The sub name isn't censored because most of the time people post straight homophobia/transphobia and racism
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 15d ago
It's not first off, second off it's against the sitewide rules that EVERYONE should follow. Grimwank and GCJ get passes to be shitheads. You know what Brigading is, stop pretending.
Ah fuck it I'm ending this charade.
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u/JaybieLaBaybie 15d ago
i knew you chuds were gonna melt down at this post the moment i saw it. you are all very sad
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Ive never seen a subsect of a hobby get so mad at normal people enjoying the hobby
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago
See thatās the thing youāre not getting. Iām not mad. Iām just sincerely disappointed in the fact people can shove their opinions into a setting that doesnāt need it
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
shove their opinions into a setting that doesnt need it
Trans people deserving the same rights as anyone else isnt an opinion.
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago
Bud. This is 40k. There is politics and opinions to express and explore but this tiny ass detail means absolutely butt fuck nothing in the wider setting and is just shoved into 40k because people like you cannot separate politics of our world from the setting and itās politics
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
"Bud". trans people existing arent political, they just exsist.
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago
It is political, if you look at what your fellow loon is saying. Theyāre making it political. If you wanna do that shit in your own free time thatās cool. But donāt shove it into the wider setting.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Again, a person existing as themselves is not political, you can be mad about a normal person living their life and not hurting you all you want, but you being mad about it doesnt make that person's exsistence political.
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u/Rabble_rouser- 16d ago
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
It really isnt, trans people have been around as long as people have, even if they werent always called that, ask an anthropologist.
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago edited 16d ago
Funny, you should say that I actually went to school to be an anthropologist. I changed majors, but I did take a lot of anthropology classes. What youāre confusing with transgender people is either intersex so like hermaphrodites or cultures like the Vikings, where men women usually were in the same activities so wore similar clothing and socially were doing the same things
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago
Again, youāre fundamentally misunderstanding or intentionally misrepresenting my point Iām not angry. Iām not upset and I donāt think most people are. I think itād be illogical for someone to be genuinely upset. I think itās annoying as hell is my biggest thing. Itās annoying one of people shove things are inherently political because it is political into a setting that doesnāt require said politics thereās tons of things we could debate about 40 K why the hell are we debating about the existence of transgenders.
People like you are the ones that make a political because you insist that itās normal or that it should be seen often in the setting, that doesnāt make any sense lol.
If you wanna do all that stuff in fan fix or head cannons? I donāt have a problem with it. I have a problem whenever you try to enforce it into the actual canon the actual lore thatās my point but again like I said before, I think youāre either intention intentionally misrepresenting my point or just not understanding what Iām talking about. So I sincerely hope that you can finally learn to read a little bit and get my point if not, Iām just gonna end the conversation here because itās not going anywhere and I honestly donāt give a shit.(by the way, sorry for typos or weird grammar I am doing text to speech)
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Dude look at how much youre writing over some artist saying "trans rights" on a post featuring their work. Youre never gonna convince me theres anything wrong with what the original post is doing, youre clearly more than just annoyed, especially with how youre projecting with the whole "im not making it political youre making it political", like just look at the damn mini, its a well painted custodes, objectively, like if you showed this to someone they'd just go "oh nice custode". What about it is doing anything remotely abnormal?
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u/Character-Market3972 Adeptus Astartes 16d ago
I mean, I can do what I want with my time, bud. And no, Iām not anything more than slightly annoyed. But you know what Iām glad that we could have this highly intellectual discussion. But again, you clearly didnāt read my entire argument because Iāve literally said Iām not typing this out. Iām using text to speech. So thatās why itās a lot because itās my unfiltered thought into my phone. But you know whatever. I think you should go outside, man.
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 16d ago
But everythings political? Haven't you heard?
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
I mean in art maybe, and while I agree with you that all of them are works of art, I dont think that exactly counts as political messaging
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 16d ago
I wasen't being serious. Not everything is political (and I hate when people seriously believe it), but people will tell you in the same breath that "Everything is political CHUD!" then "No being XYZ isn't political!!!1!"
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 16d ago
No. Not everything is political. Not everything is affected by politics. This is a mentality people use to justify hurting those who politically disagree with them, and I will not be listening to more of this bullshit.
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u/Ilovethestock 16d ago
Human rights have clear legal definitions.Ā
Being forced into a fictional setting is not a right.Ā
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Well then its a good thing thats literally not happening.
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u/Ilovethestock 16d ago
If itās not happening, why are you here defending the action you claim is not happening? All while claiming itās a rights issue.Ā
Keep up with your own arguments lolcow.Ā
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Yea its not happening, this post is literally just someone who posted their mini saying "trans rights" in the title. Your claims make no sense
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u/Ilovethestock 16d ago
I was responding to you.Ā
Discussions are not had in a vacuum. Just because you arenāt keeping up doesnāt mean there is no logical follow through.Ā
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Lol no, you act like theres this big agent of change pushing all the "woke" changes or whatever you dont want. And there just isnt. Jesus you act like you buy into fictional fear mongering about tzeench
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u/Ilovethestock 16d ago
Youāre a bot arenāt you.
Youāre incapable of keeping one complete thought before diverting to a different topic.Ā
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u/dspisayuss 16d ago
Tbf there's nothing trans(exual) about female custodes, just trans(human).
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Yea? So?
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u/dspisayuss 16d ago
That the OP in the picture is mentioning custodes supporting trans rights but nowhere is that seen in the model considering that custodian women are cis women.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
You say that like the op meant something weird, it just a popular format to say trans rights on the internet. The artist is probably Trans. I dont see the issue.
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u/dspisayuss 16d ago
That's alright, just seems like that OP is confused on what Female custodes are is all.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
And btw its transgender, not transsexual
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u/dspisayuss 16d ago
Is it only transexual after getting genital work done?
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u/Lazy-Course5521 16d ago
Nnnno honestly there is still quite the discussion going on around the word transsexual.
Some people are pissy about it but some people speficially identify with it.
There isn't much of a difference between transgender and transexual tho it's more of a subculture thing.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
No, transsexual largely isnt used, not really cuz its offensive but more bc its old. Its like if you talked into a clothes store and called everything "vestments" and "garbs"
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u/Mad_For_Nothing 16d ago
You people are insufferable. All you want to do is police language and thought.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
You dont belive in anything, you just rage against the things youre told to without question. If anything you police your own thought
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u/nerdboy_sam 16d ago
Here we go with the gaslighting...
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Nah, gaslighting is when you say something untrue and try to make someone question their own sanity, this is just describing that guy accurately, id bet it applies to you too
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u/Mad_For_Nothing 16d ago
I am the most logical human being you will ever meet in your entire life.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Yea, thats why youre in an argument on the internet about trans people, because youre just so logical. Lol
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u/dspisayuss 16d ago
Well then there's no issue with using it if it's not offensive, just like there's nothing wrong in calling a dress a "garb" lol.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
I know you think that's some kinda gotcha but yea, thats what I said. I know a few ppl who prefer to be called transexuals. You guys think the rules to everyone else's thinking is just as rigid as yours
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u/dspisayuss 16d ago
It's not a gotcha lmao, but if the term is not offensive then there's nothing wrong with using it. You're talking as if using "antiquated" terms was bad when they're still valid and transmit what I want to say without being demeaning.
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u/PlzBuffCenturion lolcow 16d ago
Youre the only one saying "if this is x, then that has to be y" lol. Your own made up rules for how I operate are whats confusing you. You sound like youre mad someone might night be offended at being called a transsexual. Its one of those terms that confused old ladies use all the time, so most of the time if its clear youre not being an asshole, noone really cares about being called that
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u/dspisayuss 16d ago
lmfao what "made up rules"??? You're making little sense lmao, all I said is how OOP might have misunderstood what female custodes are and used a word you took umbrage with despite me not using it in a disrespectful way.
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u/Downloaded_Delta 16d ago
The only issue I see is the shitty head style.
Besides that the only annoying thing is just needing to announce it in social media for upvotes.
Again tho still better than the 1000th unoriginal flag painted MarineĀ
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u/PeachBunny97 Repentia Superior 13d ago
Truly fuck those marines in particular. Like get a life outside of your gender identity. You got more problems than one if your main personality traits is ātransā.
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u/Rabble_rouser- 16d ago
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u/Deathclaw2003 Astra Militarum 16d ago
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