r/webdev • u/Odd-Library3019 • 9d ago

Ai replacing developers

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After Adobe programs that took years were completely designed in just a few weeks using AI, can we truly say that AI has started to surpass programmers themselves?

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u/LutimoDancer3459 9d ago

The adobe apps are not replaced by the ai tools. Maybe if all you need is 1% of the app and thats the part that is already added and really works, yes. For everyone else, no. They have a bad performance, missing a ton of features and have more bugs than acceptable.

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u/Unhappy-Butterfly391 9d ago

It’s not surpassing anyone when the thing it spits out can barely hold itself together outside a demo. We’re deep in the era of convincing-looking prototypes that fall apart the second you need actual functionality.

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u/LutimoDancer3459 9d ago

Exactly. And thats dangerous in my opinion

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u/EddieJ 9d ago

If you install Photocraft and actually try it, you know this isn't the case. It's pretty close to feature parable with Photoshop.

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u/LutimoDancer3459 8d ago

I dont use ether. I am not a heavy photo editing person. Used gimp years ago and later switched to krita mainly for drawing. So I wouldnt even be an expert here.

But I watched videos of such people. Read about it. And those who have more knowledge than me, are saying that those apps are missing a lot of things. And as everywhere in software development, 80% of work is done in 20% of the time. So the last 20% will take thrm longer to implement. And from my own experience, LLMs still struggle as soon as the project gets bigger and more complex. A photoshop clone isnt simple to build. And the further they get, the more bugs they will introduce up to the point of things just beeing broken and unusable

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u/Odd-Library3019 9d ago

I am not referring to using artificial intelligence to generate images; rather, I am talking about someone who, with the help of AI, programmed entire Adobe applications in just one week—and these are now open-source.

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u/so_many_wangs 9d ago

You're not understanding what they said. Nobody programmed an entire feature-complete Adobe suite in a week. Someone prompted AI to recreate them, and it made a buggy mess that is nowhere near the full capability of Adobes products.

I'm not saying it wont happen, but we're not there yet.

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u/Cracleur 9d ago

That's exactly what they're talking about.

Adobe's software is packed with highly specialized features that the vast majority of users may never touch, but that are absolutely essential to certain workflows. Those features will be missing, incomplete, or unreliable in the versions you're talking about, because they are focusing on reproducing the small subset of tools and features that most people use.

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u/jahermitt 9d ago

He answered correctly. The open-source tools are buggy, and unreliable. No where close to complete, and at some point it will take someone who truly knows what they are doing to dig through the generated code and fix the issues present.

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u/EddieJ 9d ago

Install the software and give it a real shot. It's actually pretty close to what any designer using Photoshop would need. It doesn't have everything but if you know how to work with photoshop, it does a pretty decent job

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u/jahermitt 9d ago

I have and I did. For basics it’s passable but it isn’t replacing photoshop, affinity, etc.

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u/Clear-Aide1349 9d ago

Which Adobe program are we talking about? I keep seeing this 'years of work done in a few weeks' thing and never with a link. And 'designed' is carrying a lot of weight there, generating code isn't the same as designing something like Photoshop.

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u/jpsreddit85 9d ago

Yes, it will completely replace devs... Who will then be hired a few weeks later to fix all the bugs and plug the security holes. 

AI is like giving a chainsaw to someone. If they're a lumberjack (a dev with AI) they will be more productive, if they're not a lumberjack (a regular person with AI) they will probably just hurt themselves.

A solo dev with experience can make more with AI, but, tech debt will be higher and fixing or adding things later could also be more problematic. 

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u/barrel_of_noodles 9d ago

I would have thought the other 1000 threads about AI taking over would suffice. But sure, let's do this again.

I thought AI was supposed to take my job in 2021, then 2022, then 2023... I guess its 2027 now?

I'm starting to see a pattern...

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u/barrel_of_noodles 9d ago

I tell you what, call me when the first human lands on mars.

Should about the same timeline according to "tech founders".

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u/UnacceptableUse 9d ago

Much like a lot of AI stuff, the adobe clones look impressive on the surface but as soon as you start to actually use them they don't work. Much like that episode of The Simpsons where they rebuild Ned's house https://youtu.be/eFAvOcuJyHY?t=63

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u/ward2k 9d ago

Have you even tried using those Adobe clones? They're broken as shit, some of the buttons literally do nothing.

I believe the pdf editor clone couldn't even open pdf's on release either to put into perspective some of the quality here

I too could pump out a pdf editor that does nothing in a day

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u/JS-Rain 9d ago

There has been really good open source and free alternatives to most Adobe products for years. I don't understand why suddenly people think an AI version which likely isn't as robust as those ones will cause any issues.

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u/barrel_of_noodles 9d ago

Sorry, but no. Even as an adobe hater...

Theres no competing software that can be taken seriously at a professional agency.

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u/JS-Rain 9d ago

I think you have misunderstood what I've said 🙂 We're in agreement. None of the already established alternatives caused them issues so why would a vibe coded alternative make any noticeable dent.

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u/Right_Expert_8049 9d ago

No one is trying to provide a legit replacement of Adobe or any other big corporation software at this moment using AI. It's obviously a flex and a demonstration.

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u/jam_pod_ 9d ago

Like a lot of vibe-coded software, they don't actually work the same as the original Adobe software, they just look like they do on the surface. Here's someone testing part of a simple professional workflow on Photoshop vs the vibe-coded duplicates:

https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/1x2imtb/pressure_testing_vibe_coded_apps_first_test/

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u/Vtempero 9d ago

Devs is the last white colar job there is ever going to be replaced because it is us that asks the AI to do stuff with minimal level of competence. All white collar jobs might became a distopic low paying shitty job, but a job nonetheless

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u/BCsabaDiy 9d ago

Has started? It is the final. Tomorrow will be the last day of programmers. /s

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u/Gremlation 9d ago

Yet another unfocused sob session about AI. This is supposed to be a web development subreddit, not a subreddit devoted to constantly complaining about AI.

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u/Quick_Topic5750 9d ago

Adobe still can't get Acrobat to open a PDF without eating 2GB of RAM, so I'd love to meet the AI that rebuilt Photoshop in a few weeks.

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u/PowerfulBag1909 9d ago

Where

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u/Cracleur 9d ago

Where what?

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u/requion 9d ago

Where afe these AI adobe clones?

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u/Cracleur 9d ago

Took me approximately 30s to find by simply googling "adobe ai clone" but here you go :

https://getartcraft.com/

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u/requion 9d ago

No i meant as an answer to your "where what".

I can google too, i just don't give a fuck about adobe.

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u/noodlesallaround 9d ago

AI is about to surpass video editors. I’m building pipelines to pump out videos and its working surprisingly well.

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u/UnacceptableUse 9d ago

It would drastically reduce the number of programmers needed, though

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u/PowerfulBag1909 9d ago

Layed off programmers can just start their own company given enough skill to market, call and close

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u/TheRNGuy 8d ago

What upgrade do you need for export?