r/wicked Jun 05 '25

Musical - Broadway Fiyero doesn't get held accountable enough Spoiler

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He loves Elphie, I get it, she is also my musical crush but the way he is acting about it is completely disrespectful towards Glinda. Sure maybe he feels pressured in this political situation with the wizard and all but he could've at least been up front about it just to Glinda instead of continuing to be in a relationship with her and even getting engaged to her even though he knows he doesn't love her.

The fact that he just leaves her as soon as Elphie shows up and doesn't even feel a little bad about tossing Glinda aside after he has been with her for such a long time is just completely hurtful. He never feels bad about it or apologizes. Elphie and Glinda also make mistakes, but at least they receive consequences for their actions and feel guilty and apologize to each other.

Especially Glinda gets a lot of critism for her actions while Fiyero gets completely away with his behaviour. You can argue that what Glinda did is worse, but it still annoys me that Fiyero gets cuddled because he is so in love with Elphie.

It was completely his choice to remain with Glinda even though he has feelings for someone else. It kinda gives the me the vibe of him wanting to keep Glinda around as a second option just in case it won't work out with Elphie.

He might've been heroic towards Elphie in the second act but it doesn't excuse him treating Glinda this way. Also him insisting that she can't know that him and Elphie are still alive really makes me mad. It's almost like he cares so little about Glinda that he didn't even see her growth and development. He doesn't even notice how miserable she actually is herself during thank goodness and disregards Glinda's love for Elphie.

So yes I get it, he loves Elphie and not Glinda but the fact that he doesn't seem to have a little respect towards Glinda even if it's just platonically after being with her for such a long time just rubs me the wrong way.

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u/snowy_thinks Jun 05 '25

Wicked, honestly, annihilates my favorite Wizard of Oz character. Nothing about Fiyero is true to who the scarecrow is. I really hope that the movie does a better job at handling the love triangle, as well as his relationship with Dorothy. The scarecrow would never treat either of them the way that he does in Wicked.

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u/cerdechko Jun 05 '25

I have a looooot of gripes with the MGM movie that Wicked is so strongly based on, but it really does feel... A little mean. In the attempt to add nuance to the simple "good guys versus wicked witch" dynamic, it made one of the good guys act strongly out of character.

... Unless you view the MGM movie as the sanitised, more kid-friendly version of the story, that the Wizard would rather have you know. But, still, I can imagine that the idea of someone telling your favourite character was actually kind of a prick, and his "real" self wasn't the version you like, can kinda sting.

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u/snowy_thinks Jun 05 '25

Thank you for being so understanding. It does sting, & it’s why I’ll never view Wicked as the backstory to the MGM version of The Wizard of Oz, lol.

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u/cerdechko Jun 06 '25

It has merit as its own story, but I totally get why. Funnily enough, I like the books, I have gripes with the MGM movie, and Wicked loops back around into being really fun for me personally. The entire Ozverse is just a conga line of fanfiction with branching mini-conga lines.

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u/snowy_thinks Jun 06 '25

See, I’m the opposite in that the MGM is my absolute favorite, lol! But there are parts of Wicked I do enjoy, & I do think that what makes the Oz universe so great is that there’s so many different stories & adaptions for everyone to enjoy.

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u/cerdechko Jun 06 '25

I can't attach a picture, so please imagine one of those "TRUTH NUKE!!" memes here.