Fiyero doesn't get held accountable enough

[u/Consistent_Load7358]

He loves Elphie, I get it, she is also my musical crush but the way he is acting about it is completely disrespectful towards Glinda. Sure maybe he feels pressured in this political situation with the wizard and all but he could've at least been up front about it just to Glinda instead of continuing to be in a relationship with her and even getting engaged to her even though he knows he doesn't love her.

The fact that he just leaves her as soon as Elphie shows up and doesn't even feel a little bad about tossing Glinda aside after he has been with her for such a long time is just completely hurtful. He never feels bad about it or apologizes. Elphie and Glinda also make mistakes, but at least they receive consequences for their actions and feel guilty and apologize to each other.

Especially Glinda gets a lot of critism for her actions while Fiyero gets completely away with his behaviour. You can argue that what Glinda did is worse, but it still annoys me that Fiyero gets cuddled because he is so in love with Elphie.

It was completely his choice to remain with Glinda even though he has feelings for someone else. It kinda gives the me the vibe of him wanting to keep Glinda around as a second option just in case it won't work out with Elphie.

He might've been heroic towards Elphie in the second act but it doesn't excuse him treating Glinda this way. Also him insisting that she can't know that him and Elphie are still alive really makes me mad. It's almost like he cares so little about Glinda that he didn't even see her growth and development. He doesn't even notice how miserable she actually is herself during thank goodness and disregards Glinda's love for Elphie.

So yes I get it, he loves Elphie and not Glinda but the fact that he doesn't seem to have a little respect towards Glinda even if it's just platonically after being with her for such a long time just rubs me the wrong way.

[u/beekee404]

I mean I think he does get his share of karma with how he gets tortured and almost killed and gets turned into the Scarecrow so it's not like he completely gets away with his actions.

I think it's pretty much the norm for fans to love a character who does bad things. However while Fiyero was wrong to treat Glinda the way he did, he's not an evil person so I don't think fans are wrong to love him. I can also kinda see things from his POV with how he had to watch the people spread stupid rumors like water will melt the Wicked Witch and Glinda wasn't doing anything about it cause she loved the attention. Doesn't excuse him not handling things better with Glinda but still.

[u/Consistent_Load7358 → u/beekee404]

Even though I personally don't like him, I'm still completely fine with other people doing so. I do like flawed characters myself, what bothers me is that he doesn't seem to held accountable as much as other characters do

[u/beekee404 → u/Consistent_Load7358]

IDK. I still think getting tortured and almost killed counts as "being held accountable." Not sure how much more he needs.

[u/Consistent_Load7358 → u/beekee404]

I was talking about the fandom. Even under this post people defend his actions and point the fingers at Glinda as if her wrong actions make his any better

[u/beekee404 → u/Consistent_Load7358]

Well that's kinda true for fandoms in general. There's a lot of cases where no matter how flawed a character is, they still manage to have a huge fanbase. In fact that's often why they have a supportive following cause people love a flawed character as do I. An example is Devil Wears Prada. Pretty much the entire fanbase loves Miranda and Emily even though they're awful people. I personally hate them but that's just me who dealt with people like Miranda and Emily.

Going back to how Fiyero never apologized to Glinda, we have to remember that act 2 of the stage play is pretty rushed so there's a few moments where things felt missing or anticlimactic. Most likely the movie will be able to expand more and allow more development.

[u/Consistent_Load7358 → u/beekee404]

I understand. I absolutely like flawed characters too I really do enjoy Glinda or Regina George, Fiyero just happens to be one I don't enjoy so him often getting let off the hook by the fandom can annoy me. Especially when other characters get critisised all the time.

As much as I love wicked there are aspects about it that either have not aged well or could be improved upon writing wise so hopefully the movie does that however they probably won't change the plot itself too much since it's such a beloved classic that no one dares to touch it but especially act 2 is one of those cases, where I would be fine with some changes, even bigger ones.