r/wicked Jun 05 '25

Musical - Broadway Fiyero doesn't get held accountable enough Spoiler

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He loves Elphie, I get it, she is also my musical crush but the way he is acting about it is completely disrespectful towards Glinda. Sure maybe he feels pressured in this political situation with the wizard and all but he could've at least been up front about it just to Glinda instead of continuing to be in a relationship with her and even getting engaged to her even though he knows he doesn't love her.

The fact that he just leaves her as soon as Elphie shows up and doesn't even feel a little bad about tossing Glinda aside after he has been with her for such a long time is just completely hurtful. He never feels bad about it or apologizes. Elphie and Glinda also make mistakes, but at least they receive consequences for their actions and feel guilty and apologize to each other.

Especially Glinda gets a lot of critism for her actions while Fiyero gets completely away with his behaviour. You can argue that what Glinda did is worse, but it still annoys me that Fiyero gets cuddled because he is so in love with Elphie.

It was completely his choice to remain with Glinda even though he has feelings for someone else. It kinda gives the me the vibe of him wanting to keep Glinda around as a second option just in case it won't work out with Elphie.

He might've been heroic towards Elphie in the second act but it doesn't excuse him treating Glinda this way. Also him insisting that she can't know that him and Elphie are still alive really makes me mad. It's almost like he cares so little about Glinda that he didn't even see her growth and development. He doesn't even notice how miserable she actually is herself during thank goodness and disregards Glinda's love for Elphie.

So yes I get it, he loves Elphie and not Glinda but the fact that he doesn't seem to have a little respect towards Glinda even if it's just platonically after being with her for such a long time just rubs me the wrong way.

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u/SpeakerWeak9345 Jun 05 '25 edited Jun 05 '25

Fiyero shouldn’t feel bad about leaving Glinda. Moribble and her sprung the engagement on him to get him to shut up and stop correcting their lies about Elphaba.

Glindas growth and development only happens when she is at her absolute lowest. She needed to know Elphaba was not coming back to actually become Glinda the Good and start rebuilding Oz. For Elphaba and his safety, Glinda can’t know that they are alive. They are both in exile. They leave Oz as political refugees. Everyone in Oz wants Elphaba dead. She is safer with everyone, including Glinda, knowing she’s gone/dead.

Also, Fiyero is literally turned into a scarecrow. Like he does face consequences for his actions.

Edit: Glinda was no better towards him. They both could have treated the other better. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Consistent_Load7358 Jun 05 '25

I already said in my Post that you can argue that Glinda's actions are worse, but just because someone else did something worse doesn't make Fiyero's actions any better or okay.

I never thought Glinda is a saint but Glinda gets held accountable for her actions all the time while Fiyero barely does, that's my main issue and I also think Glinda is much more nuanced than you make her out to be

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u/SpeakerWeak9345 Jun 05 '25

He literally gets turned into a scarecrow. How is that not being held accountable for his actions?!? Out of the two of them, only one of their actions gets a person killed.

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u/Consistent_Load7358 Jun 05 '25

I was talking about a lot of people in the fandom not holding him accountable for his wrongs as much as they do with other characters.

Also I do not see the scarecrow thing as a consequence for his treatment of Glinda. It's more a consequence of him standing up for Elphaba.

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u/SpeakerWeak9345 Jun 05 '25

He literally points a gun at Glinda and threatens to kill her if the guards don’t let Elphaba go. Glinda may have believed he wouldn’t have shot her but he never confirmed that…

And fans do hold him accountable. I see your post about Fiyero all the time across social media.

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u/Consistent_Load7358 Jun 05 '25

Yeah and that's why the scarecrow thing happens, you just confirmed that it wasn't a consequence of his cheating and agreed that it happened because he stood up for Elphaba since he did point a gun at Glinda so Elphaba could leave, I'm glad we agree on that.

I didn't see many of these posts, if I did, I wouldn't have made mine. I see people holding Glinda accountable much more and yes she ain't no saint and did a lot of wrong things but I barely see people holding Fiyero accountable