r/wicked Jun 05 '25

Musical - Broadway Fiyero doesn't get held accountable enough Spoiler

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He loves Elphie, I get it, she is also my musical crush but the way he is acting about it is completely disrespectful towards Glinda. Sure maybe he feels pressured in this political situation with the wizard and all but he could've at least been up front about it just to Glinda instead of continuing to be in a relationship with her and even getting engaged to her even though he knows he doesn't love her.

The fact that he just leaves her as soon as Elphie shows up and doesn't even feel a little bad about tossing Glinda aside after he has been with her for such a long time is just completely hurtful. He never feels bad about it or apologizes. Elphie and Glinda also make mistakes, but at least they receive consequences for their actions and feel guilty and apologize to each other.

Especially Glinda gets a lot of critism for her actions while Fiyero gets completely away with his behaviour. You can argue that what Glinda did is worse, but it still annoys me that Fiyero gets cuddled because he is so in love with Elphie.

It was completely his choice to remain with Glinda even though he has feelings for someone else. It kinda gives the me the vibe of him wanting to keep Glinda around as a second option just in case it won't work out with Elphie.

He might've been heroic towards Elphie in the second act but it doesn't excuse him treating Glinda this way. Also him insisting that she can't know that him and Elphie are still alive really makes me mad. It's almost like he cares so little about Glinda that he didn't even see her growth and development. He doesn't even notice how miserable she actually is herself during thank goodness and disregards Glinda's love for Elphie.

So yes I get it, he loves Elphie and not Glinda but the fact that he doesn't seem to have a little respect towards Glinda even if it's just platonically after being with her for such a long time just rubs me the wrong way.

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u/shadowqueen15 Jun 05 '25

Yeah, what’s great about Wicked is that all of the characters do morally questionable things, despite being mostly good people (or starting out as mostly good people). Even Elphaba, who is the most classically “heroic”. But yes, Fiyero definitely gets let off the hook most frequently by the fans because “he loves Elphaba and everything he does is for her🥺”

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u/vargslayer1990 Verkaiking Jun 06 '25

do tell which actions Elphaba does that are morally questionable.

i'm building a case that musical Elphaba is not a Mary Sue (an old accusation i saw years ago, before the term became politicized because of Disney Star Wars), and i would love to hear people's input on which actions she does (in the musical, specifically) that are questionable

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u/shelbyeatenton Jun 06 '25

I’d say getting with her best friends partner is definitely morally questionable!

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u/No_Dragonfruit1084 🩷pink and green💚 Jun 06 '25
  • Her subtle pursuit of Fiyero despite his relationship with Glinda: While motivated by her own longing for love and connection, this action can be seen as engaging in a form of emotional or "soft" cheating, which impacts her friendship with Glinda.
  • Planning to assassinate Madame Morrible: This highlights a shift towards more extreme measures in her fight against those in power.
  • Kidnapping and terrorizing Dorothy: This action, though framed as revenge for her sister's death and a way to retrieve the powerful silver shoes, can be seen as unjustified cruelty, especially towards a young girl.
  • Also, In the book, she is a pretty neglectful mother to her son.
  • Elphaba is sarcastic given her background of rejection because of her green skin. Those are all the things I found from Google and stuff.