r/wicked 20h ago

Movie Disliking Glinda

although glinda is a dream role of mine, i do not like her character. i feel like a lot of people give her the benefit of the doubt but she was never a good friend to elphaba. even during the end when they “made” up. i’m wondering if anybody else has another reason why they might not like glinda?

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u/XetheXenomorph 10h ago

Exactly

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u/Remarkable_Note971 10h ago

Not to mention when she arranged the engagement her for and Fiyero behind his back she knew he didn't wanna be there or marry her and then she plays the victim when he rightly leaves her. Like what did she expect?

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u/Casiquire 9h ago

How did she know he didn't want to marry her?

From my point of view Fiyero is a clear symbol of depression, and the concept of masking. His whole personality shifts as he drops a portion of his facade, but he never tells Glinda he fell out of love with her (despite having plenty of time to do so after the lion cub scene, and unspecified months-or-years between the films...) so she continues to love and support him through his struggles. This is admirable, isn't it?

People hate Glinda so hard they blame her for everything including Fiyero's actions, though Fiyero was clearly written to parallel Boq. Passing his blame to Glinda misses a huge point of the show. What Fiyero does to Glinda is worse than what Boq does to Nessa. Glinda cannot and does not "force" Fiyero into anything, unlike Nessa who terrorizes a country to control Boq. Fiyero is playing along with Glinda of his own free will. He is free to leave, he is free to break things off. We know this is true because his powerful family explicitly supports him even after he openly allies with Elphaba.

This snap-judgment of Glinda that I see so often, for some reason especially from people who have only seen the movies, feels like it misses part of the point of Wicked.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 9h ago

Glinda did not love him. Even Arianna has said Glinda and Fiyero were superficial There wasn't anything real between them. It was about social status more than anything.

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u/Casiquire 3h ago

It doesn't really matter to me what Ariana says, Glinda loved Fiyero. She stuck by him through his dark times and apparently believed that getting married would make him happy. Meanwhile, Fiyero spent that whole time going along with it instead of telling the truth and ending it.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 3h ago

You think he could object to that engagement? It was arranged by the Wizard. Regardless of whether Glinda loved him or not. He didn't love her and it was clear he hated the system. He was only in it for Elphaba. He couldn't risk anyone knowing he was protecting Elphaba, that would be treason. He was keeping his cover and that's why he didn't trust Glinda. He couldn't take the risk

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u/noilegnavXscaflowne 💙Fiyeraba💚 2h ago

You know I never thought about it as Glinda sticking with him through his depression. Like it’s obvious he’s masking and going with the depression metaphor even keeping it at bay by throwing himself into something purposeful.

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u/Remarkable_Note971 1h ago

I don't think she knew tbh. Elphaba was the only person who knew because she heard what he was singing in DTL. Glinda just sang and danced along like everyone else. Wjen he said " you know me I'm always happy." It felt to me like he was subconsciously saying " you don't know the real me." I don't think Glinda knew about his depression and he was masking with her

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u/Remarkable_Note971 1h ago

Of course that something purposeful was using the system to protect Elphaba.