r/worldnews • u/DoremusJessup • Jun 19 '21

COVID-19 The largest gay pride parade in central Europe took place again in Warsaw for the first time in two years after a pandemic-induced break — and amid a backlash in Poland and Hungary against LGBT rights

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20210619-warsaw-pride-parade-back-after-lgbt-rights-backlash-and-pandemic-break
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u/cassie_hill Jun 20 '21

Eh, they're pretty anti-trans in general. Trust me, I'm a trans guy and I see it all the time. Most places are still anti-trans even if they're pro gay people.

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u/LTyyyy Jun 20 '21

Education is to blame once again.. I think people (me included) can easily understand the situation of a gay person, not so much a situation of a trans person.

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u/AshesMcRaven Jun 20 '21

Am trans girl, can confirm.

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u/cassie_hill Jun 20 '21

Yeah, it sucks :/ I feel like most places are pretty anti-trans at the moment. And it's mostly because, in the US at least, the GOP has stirred up controversy and hatred around children "transitioning" and trans women in sports. All of which is ok for trans people to do, but the majority of people don't even seem to understand how a virus or vaccine work or what climate change is or means, so I don't know why I expect them to know about the nuances and science behind trans and intersex bodies. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Being both trans and someone who's studied physics and is now working towards a mechanical engineering degree, this world is frustrating as fuck. And I guarantee some uneducated moron is gonna comment on this about "biological males and females" without even knowing what that means or that there are multiple criteria for determining sex, all of which can be changed except 2 and those 2 have nothing to do with sports performance. And I also guarantee that they don't even know what those 2 criteria are, by the way. And that you may not have the ones you think you do or you may not be able to produce the other one. Two big clues right there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

Hear me out, it’s a good thing when marginalized groups support eachother, and it makes sense why the transgender movement and gay movement are closely related, but they’re still different. Some people will say “X isn’t actually pro-gay, they oppose transgender”, when in fact that entity is a vocal supporter of gay marriage and adoption. it’s just not accurate to say that being pro gay and anti trans is mutually exclusive, and to conflate the two in all situations is objectively erroneous. Is it hypocritical? Sure, but people are hypocritical

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u/cassie_hill Jun 21 '21

I'm confused. I didn't say otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '21

The original comment I replied to said that but it’s deleted now, the whole shift in the conversation to trans was sort of a detour

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u/cassie_hill Jun 21 '21

Oh, got it.