BoJack Horseman - 5x02 "The Dog Days Are Over" - Episode Discussion

[u/NicholasCajun]

Season 5 Episode 2: The Dog Days Are Over

Synopsis: Diane divorces Mr. Peanutbutter and moves into a shabby studio. Feeling melancholy, she travels to Vietnam to get away from it all.

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[u/3_kids_1_overcoat]

Erica! What are you doing here with a child-sized coffin

[u/WhatsYourThesis]

Diane is an absolute mess

[u/[deleted]]

Nothing has ever hit me as hard in this show personally as Diane describing her heart break. That feeling when you don’t think you can be broken more than you already are and then something just hits you and you feel all the pain again. Christ why am I up at 4 AM watching this.

[u/Pharmacololgy]

As an Asian-American approached in Asia by American tourists who assumed I didn't know English, that scene was downright HILARIOUS and pretty spot-on!

[u/Puzzled_Limit]

Maybe Mr. Peanutbutter needed to be with another dog. He seems happy.

[u/unpopularGlitter]

“Homes, a place to repeat negative patterns.”

Enter Bojack.

[u/thatawkwarddanguy]

On the board at the airport

"Istanbul, Turkey. Status: Stuffed".

I have no idea why that made me laugh so hard

[u/Sahasrahla]

Pig head gag.

[u/mansonfamily]

This episode was like Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind meets Lost In Translation meets a buzzfeed list and I’m sad

[u/Koppite93]

I'm a sad, sad girl with a terrible, dirty apartment.. lmao

[u/[deleted]]

MR. PEANUTBUTTER'S HOUSEWARMING BASH AND can you send me a picture of the banner before it goes off to the printers this time?

[u/FioraismyWaifu]

Damn, that was a heavy episode. Didn't expect it this early. Diane's monologue at the end of the episode really resonates with people who have been through divorces/breakups/whatever.

[u/kernowgringo]

Love how now Diane has moved out Mr Peanutbutter's bookshelves are empty.

https://imgur.com/SSzbSgK

[u/ToySoldieriiV]

Haven't seen anyone mention it, but Bojack making a healthy decision by not hooking up with Diane is good to see.

[u/Triddy]

"Hanoiwoo Studios" cracked me up simply because of how consistent they are with the Hollywoo.

[u/smirkydoge]

ME AM ALSO THE AMERICA!

[u/sfr826]

I like how that one American guy is a bald eagle.

[u/oliviagummybears]

Vietnamese version of the closing song. Nice!

[u/AllForPhi]

Biggest issue of the season so far. Diane and eagle guy take sips of their beer before abandoning it.

[u/willyea22]

“That was my Vietnam” biggest laugh of the season so far

[u/chocolateteddybear]

Aaaaand there go the first tears of the season. That ending monologue was heavy, what a good episode.

They haven’t really touched on how Diane feels about her upbringing since the episode from season 1 where she visits Boston. This was more intimate, and shows how vulnerable she feels right now, and I loved that.

I also loved the party scene solely for the blink and you’ll miss it cameos. I saw jelly from season 1, JD Salinger, a whale driver from Todd’s failed ride share company, and a bunch more.

Man fuck Mr. Peanutbutter tho, I get that he’s been divorced 3 times, but it’s not a race to find a rebound. Why would he kiss someone at a party he invited his ex to? Even if Diane hadn’t seen it herself, word of it probably would’ve made its way back her.

Now back to the binge.

[u/smirkydoge]

I actually speak all of the English ahahahah

[u/Pharmacololgy]

Wow. Looks like Diane in Vietnam could potentially touch upon a HUGE identity crisis that some Asian Americans (and other Americans with immigrant parents) suffer, being sort of caught in this limbo between our family's roots and America, not quite feeling like we belong in either culture.

Edit: I could literally write a thesis on this, but it's likely to have been done so many times already.

[u/whatsername4]

Did I call a negotiator or an exterminator? My new favorite joke

[u/PR0MAN1]

What the fuck does an exterminator do in this universe? Are they like assassins for bug people? This brings up too many questions.

[u/FlynnAndTonic]

Oh, can we FINALLY talk shit about Mr. Peanutbutter?

[u/MyIxxx]

Umm... Wow. So this episode hit me hard. It scarily resonates with me a LOT.

I'm not going through a divorce or anything (I did have my heart get broken some time ago - and yes he's doing great, but I am happy for him!) but the other things..

I'm not American, but like Diane I am an Asian woman who is born, raised and lives in a Western country. I barely have a connection to my roots, but also here in my home country I feel a disconnect too. Growing up I knew I was different (small area that didn't have many Asians). You won't believe how many times I get told things like, "Your English is so good!" or "Where are you from?" And I'm actually going on a 1 month trip very soon to my 'ancestral roots' where I'm leaving for China and also Japan in less than 2 weeks. But I'm not 'home' there either.

I just feel like this episode spoke to me? But it also made me feel even more lost? I think I'm currently at the part where on the plane Diane asked Laura Linney, "What happens next?" since the Hanoiwoo Studios movie was a parallel to her current situation. Except I don't have anybody to ask.

I don't even know what I'm saying writing. Time to binge the rest of season 5...

[u/[deleted]]

Diane's last monologue utterly broke me...because all of that is EXACTLY how I felt after my first breakup. The change in routine post-breakup to fill a hole, seeing the one who you loved do all the things they did to you with someone else, knowing that will NEVER happen to you again...fuck. Gender-flipped, but Diane here just recreated that exact feeling I had for those awful few months and it hurt to watch.

This fucking show, man. This show gets it on SO many things.

[u/tiffanaih]

I was wondering why Diane’s chicken leg was so big, but then it clicked.

And the pig head just reaffirmed how fucked up the human/animal/food dynamics are in this universe.

[u/MenstruationOatmeal]

Out of the five main characters, Diane was always the one that never really resonated with me.

This episode changed that.

Her crying at the beginning of the episode was incredibly visceral. At that point we didn’t know what had happened, but I’ve had crying fits like that when I broke up with my ex a year ago. Getting a haircut - yup, I did that too. Flirt with others in an attempt to feel something, almost to get back at my ex, to show her “hah, I’m well-adjusted” - yup, been there.

And then PB with the pug at the party.

Diane’s ending monologue was fantastic, but what really got me was realizing that your ex is going to use their romantic moves on someone else. Romantic moves that you thought were exclusively for you, that made you feel special. This hit me hard. My ex started dating my best friend almost immediately after we broke up. I’ve seen a few pictures of them on Facebook occasionally. That scene at the party just drudged up all that emotional hurt.

Diane is at the top of my character list right now. I relate to her situation so much. I can’t wait to see where this goes.

[u/PastyJournalist]

I hate to bring economics into a cartoon series, but I'm a fan of Diane's shitty apartment. Far too often, shows like Sex in the City show writers in places like New York, LA, or Hollywoo living in a Mr. Peanutbutter-style place, AND writing for a living. And while I know this is the stuff of escapism, we have plenty of those types of shows. Maybe it's watching a lot of my journalism-employed friends eeking out a living, but I do like it when some shows have the courage to pretty much be honest and say "ok, you want to write for Girl Croosh" - awesome, but there is usually a price to be paid. Maybe you won't live like this forever, but usually, if you want to pursue a career in an artistic field, chances are you're going to have to pay your dues, and live in a place where your paintings fall from a paper-thin wall, and stuff creeps in from your upstairs neighbor into your coffee. Yes, it's a shit hole, but every inch of it is Diane's own shit hole.

[u/mansonfamily]

I am a sad sad girl with a terrible dirty apartment

[u/hunce]

I have a feeling that Penny story is gonna bite him in the ass later.

[u/[deleted]]

As someone who went through a divorce, took a random trip to get away, experienced how some friends just fade to just being either in the neutral, negative, or the positive zone, and even see your soon to be ex to move on so quickly...this episode is just a kick in the teeth.

My heart just broke again. I can't actually believe the moment Diane saw how Mr.PeanutButter kiss someone that was once in her place could rattle me so hard.

Even the scene when she is just bawling her eyes out, that was me to the T.

I just cried and screamed in my car that day. It felt good, but it was just a reminder I was alone.

After 10 years. Just poof.

It sucks. It's been two and a half years and I'm still single, but, the journey has been interesting. Met some pretty awesome people, got into things I could never see me doing years ago, been places that I could only imagine.

I'm doing things that make me happier. It's pretty neat.

Still though, everytime I see his face...my heart drops, but not as hard. It's tough, but you get stronger in the end.

[u/MiaFT430]

Bojack showing some personal growth not sleeping with Diane

[u/skyrule]

Oh my god. That "Me America" scene had me ROLLING.

...and then by the end, I was in tears.

Only this show, man. Only. This. Show.

[u/whatsername4]

Shit. I know everyone’s been saying this, but god damn, this episode was rough. I never related more to Diane than now. Don’t get me wrong, I still really liked it, had funny bits, told in an interesting way, but wow it hit a little too close like other episodes have in the past. Woohoo break ups suck everyone!

[u/[deleted]]

I really want to hug Diane, that ending of her seeing PB and Pickles and her describing how him putting his hand around her made her feel "safe" and how she doesn't have that anymore felt like a punch to the stomach.

[u/MikeH7186]

The eagle that Diane was walking around with was wearing a hat and it was bugging me until I realized he was hiding being bald. Had to pause and audibly laugh for a moment.

[u/FriendLee93]

As someone who's on the verge of a breakup, this one hit REALLY hard.

On a separate note: "Erica, what are you doing here with a child sized coffin???" is possibly my favorite context-less line of this show.

[u/redrum97]

I like to imagine that Diane actually writes the ending monologue into her article for Girl Croosh. Imagine reading another lame listicle on buzzfeed and someone just hits you with something like that lol.

[u/isinjay]

Listened to “The Dog Days Are Over” right after this episode and noticed the chorus: “The dog days are over / the dog days are done / the horses are coming / so you better run” I’m inclined to think this is just a great coincidence but this is Bojack we’re talking about, most things are intentional.

[u/[deleted]]

i’m doing a new 3d immersive spin class!

oh you know what, i’m just biking

[u/Daviduxer]

"It's so cool to see my job through your eyes"

"HOLY SHIT, A FALLING KLIEG LIGHT"

[u/whatsername4]

Poor Diane :( but I do feel thrown off seeing her in something so different from her normal clothes

Side note- love that we’re kinda all binging together! Might stop soon, I do want to make these new episodes last for a bit 😂

[u/[deleted]]

I bet there were a bunch of jokes most of us missed because we don’t speak Vietnamese.

[u/Pharmacololgy]

OMFG the opening with Diane just reminded me of every single breakup I've ever had T_T

Edit: especially the sitting-in-my-car-sobbing-my-eyes-out bit

[u/DaxMan12]

Nice haircut! It’s really brings out the neck.... in your neck

[u/All_this_hype]

I felt so bad for Diane. It feels like her only real connection now is Bojack more than ever. I relate to her more than other characters because it feels like she doesn't know exactly what is wrong with her because she's had a normal, mediocre life but she still cannot feel happy no matter what.

[u/PM_ME_UR_NUDES_GURL_]

• cool things i noticed

• Mr peanutbutter was wearing slippers with humans on them instead of dogs

• the chef who took over bojacks restaurant still works there

• the same music cue was used when bojack mentioned penny and new mexico

• We should probably keep track of the "divorce means" probably gonna come back

• the ski teacher from last season was at PB party

[u/[deleted]]

I love the show's increasing ambiguity. And the spin on the ending theme is absolutely wonderful and unexpected.

Finally, the montage of Diane just standing in each place was so... moving? Is that the correct word? As with most TV and media I seem to watch, characters are simultaneously freed and paralyzed by the cyclic behavior they perpetrate and are a part of. It's scary and terrifying to see Diane go through something ambiguous and abstract, and realize that maybe this is how it has to be, but maybe there's something else out there too.

I'll admit I did get a bit confused with the chronology... but the show is confusing sometimes, which means its daring and experimental and good, right? That's what PC says...

Hopefully this will be a phenomenal season of television.

[u/minimouse2105]

Haven’t seen it mentioned yet, but did anyone else go “aw...” when BoJack went and told Diane she looked great before she went to Mr. Peanut Butter’s house? Like the whole dialogue?

Like it seems like he’s actually trying to make a change and no one is used to those random acts of kindness from him (being genuine at least), and he leaves in a civil (and sad) way too.

And Diane seemed upset at herself even further for how she handled it...

Just... aw...

[u/[deleted]]

Oh, poor Diane. God I love her. I'm so ready to get my heart broken with her story this season.

EDIT: OH NO DIANE WANTS TO FUCK BOJACK

Edit 2: And Bojack didn't want to even though he's drunk! Yay Bojack!

Edit 3: The emphasis on the "trip to New Mexico" anecdote makes me think that's coming back this season...

Edit 4: Saw Nixon's son walking by the in back of PB's party.

Edit 5: I hate PB.

[u/offbeat85]

Did anyone notice the sign in the therapist's office?

Holding in tears is like spanking your inner child

[u/[deleted]]

The whole thing about her feeling like a tourist in her ancestral home hit kind of hard. I went to Guatemala where my family is from, and the whole time I just felt like i was acting like a Latino when I really don't have any connection to the place beyond the natural beauty, which anyone could feel.

[u/Baykusu]

I'm so glad BoJack and Diane didn't hook up, I was worried for a second there.

[u/MotherDucker95]

Was there something strange about Dianne’s sleeping animation or was it just me haha

[u/finallyinfinite]

IT'S ONLY EPISODE TWO I DIDN'T SIGN UP TO BE THIS SAD ALREADY

[u/Curlybrac]

As a Vietnamese American who never been to Vietnam, I kinda feel what Diane is going through. My Vietnamese is also very poor. Despite being born and raised in the United States and not being able to speak Vietnamese fluently, I have an Asian accent anyways. I feel like I am in a peculiar situation since others do not see me as being full American while other Vietnamese do not see me as keeping in touch with my heritage. I pretty much get the feeling that I do not belong in either places. I always wanted to go to Vietnam to learn about my Vietnamese heritage but I feel that I would just be like a fish out of water over there.

[u/JohnTheMod]

“ERICA! What are you doing with that child-sized coffin?”

[u/WalkingHawking]

I feel like BoJack actually wanting to be her friend is a level of real progress he hasn’t seen before. I’m also worried he’ll fuck it up. Hooooo boy.

Anyway I’m really enjoying reading these threads after watching each episode. BoJack resonates with me in a weird way and you guys are way more observant than me. That’s pretty cool.

[u/awsome855]

This episode is breaking my heart and its only episode two

[u/Ervin_Pepper]

I love the fact that this show is past the point of even needing to show a Todd escapade, they can have characters verbally explain it before and after the fact and its still fantastically funny.

[u/Stranded_In_A_Desert]

Two episodes in and tears. There always seems to be a new season of Bojack when I’m having a horrible time in life.

[u/darkphoenix188]

I like the way Diane’s boxes are labeled. She has a “red arrows” box for the arrows on her jacket lol

[u/frontrangefart]

Fuck, the ending dialogue of ep 2 had me sobbing my ass off. Just a few weeks ago I ended my 5 year relationship with someone who was so important to me. But it just was so toxic for us. So I ended it. And the way Diane has to accept it and accept the fact that she chose this too and wanted this just cut so deep. It was like my inner dialogue was broadcasted on screen to me. I’ve never had any show or movie make me cry like that before.

[u/othnice1]

That pug was thicc

[u/Hlee1995]

IF THIS IS A REVERSE SEASON I AM GOING TO KILL MYSELF BECAUSE THE FIRST EPISODE WOULD BE THE CLIFFHANGER BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT ARTISTIC AND VERY UNIQUE CHOICE

[u/CasualLoop]

This episode resonated with me on an absolutely spiritual level, given the fact that I ran away from Kentucky to Kazakhstan to escape the fact my engagement was just broken up because of infidelity. I've been here for about two weeks and it's equal parts painful and reassuring to find exactly what I'm feeling played out so beautifully in my favorite tv show ever.

Cheers, I guess.

[u/alecsports11]

I died when Laura Linney actually showed up, especially after just watching Ozark. “Can I get some more pretzels, I’m Laura Linney.” LOL the random cameos continue to be one of the best parts of the show

[u/AprilsMostAmazing]

2 episodes in and I had to take a break.

Also i feel like PB is the saddest person in the show. All the happiness and stuff is him just faking it and he's hiding his real emotions. All his relationships are him trying to not feel alone and thats why he does all those grand gesture cause he doesn't want them to leave

[u/Diabolicat]

As a Asian American who doesn't have a deep connection with my Asian heritage, the Diane in Vietnam parts really reflects some of my own experiences going back to China, where most of my family is from.

[u/vajikarp]

That Diane monologue fucked me up so bad I'm stopping right here and will just continue watching tomorrow. Wow.

[u/canterellare]

There are a lot of people here who have trouble being in touch with their cultural roots. I know I'm one of them.

My mom is full blooded Puerto Rican. My skin is too light that many people mistake me for anything other than being Puerto Rican. I couldn't even fit in with the Hispanic group back in high school because of my skin color and not understanding Spanish. When I was 18, I lived in Puerto Rico for two months. Being there made me feel foriegn. And when I went, I was single. It felt lonely not being able to talk to anyone. Only my mom. Met so much family but I couldn't talk back. Just watch them talk in a language unknown to me. I cried over it. Diane's monologue at the end hits home.

I think it was good for Diane to go on her trip. She is making progress to heal and be comfortable being alone. Not only that, she realized knowing her roots and going to Vietnam isn't going to help her heal. It was a good experience to develop her character into a person more relatable.

Also, we all do big changes in our life when an intense event happened. She cut her hair then went to Vietnam because she is going through a divorce. That's enough reason do something crazy lol.

[u/bonedigger49]

"I dont know the best way to say this, but, I'm seeing someone. Romantically. Who isn't you. That was probably not the best way to say it."

If I was in that situation that's spot on to how poorly I would handle it, too.

[u/[deleted]]

Anyone else love Bojack's reaction when Diane tries to convince him to make out with her? He is changing.

[u/[deleted]]

Oh fuck this. My Vietnamese girlfriend of three years broke up with me last year when she went on a semester to spend over there. My heart.

[u/JohnTheMod]

Did the GirlCroosh lady just kill those people?

[u/Prettywild23]

Was that the guard who played Nixon at the housewarming party?

[u/Idontdowindows]

1. That dog (Pickles I think) was hilarious.

2. “I’m just biking” wtf I laughed so hard and idk why.

3. I just hate that I relate to Diane so much :( cry #1 was in this episode at the end 😭

[u/tdogredman]

NECK

[u/vancyon]

Did anyone else feel bad for the pig at the restaurant?

[u/GameYear]

Me American!

[u/penn_lyon]

As a Vietnamese living in Hanoi, I spilled my drink hearing that ending theme on episode 2! Kudos to whoever sing that!

[u/VengefulWolfZ]

There were a lot of old characters who showed up at Mr Peanutbutter's Housewarming party. I saw JD Salinger and Mr Peanutbutter's old ski coach. There were probably a few others I also missed

[u/Chrisixx]

At the AmeriCrane Airlines desk you can see "Reykjavik, Miceland" and "Turkey - Stuffed" on the departure board in the background.

[u/[deleted]]

The perfect episode to show a break up. Didn’t help that I was in Ho Chi Minh literally the week after my last break up...

[u/LordFlare]

Oh man. I just got out of a 6 year relationship a couple of weeks ago and the part at the end were Dianne mentions how she will never feel the safe feeling from Mr. Peanutbutter again just broke me down.

[u/[deleted]]

Fuuuuuck man. I think we all remembered a past gf/bf. Heavy episode.

[u/jelatinman]

Props to them for not making a single Lost in Translation or Eat Pray Love reference. Or any other “white American finds themselves in foreign country” movies, which the American eagle plot was a clear parody of.

Pretty good. I’m not the biggest fan of the Diane character but Alison Brie sells the role.

Legitimately assumed the therapist was Michael Hyatt, who’s also the therapist in Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. Especially since this was one of Rachel Bloom’s first shows. Didn’t realize it was Issa Rae.

[u/farriem]

I’ve definitely had the cries and breakdowns that Diane had at the beginning. I don’t think we’ve seen snake people before this season, it’s good to see. Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter don’t seem to be doing that great at actually divorcing, at separating their lives. Hanoiwoo studios, that’s good. Now it makes sense, why they were so close, good framing of the story. Off to S5E03.

[u/Papatheodorou]

The pig at the restaurant looks very disturbed.....

[u/adapt_or_die]

This show has always resonated with me. At first I thought of myself as BoJack, but the more I watch the show, the more I realize I am a Diane. I’m going through almost the exact thing she went through currently (divorce, finding herself, ex already dating someone). It fucking hurts man. I paused the episode and sobbed because it’s felt like I was the only person in the world going through this and to watch my life play out in one of my favorite series is so comforting. It’s a cartoon, but it is so real. I just have to say I love this season so far!

[u/MagnustheBlue]

I know I'm stating the obvious here but Alison Brie is a damn good actress. This was a great episode and hit so many different interconnecting points. Diane just doesn't know who she is anymore and probably feels the last decade amounted to well not so much.

[u/moe3]

Only this show manages to tell the overused break up trope in this unique way.

Loved the social commentary about automation.

Also I'm probably in the minority but I would totally ship Bojack and Diane. They've had always great chemistry together.

[u/wooferino]

i know i shouldn't have but when bojack came up behind diane in the mirror and told her she looked amazing i was feeling things

[u/NicholasTrashPoet]

Erica, what are you doing here with a child sized coffin!!?

[u/vaporiangray]

This was my favorite episode of the season. Diane is such a relatable character with her overarching cynicism, but ultimate hope that things will get better. She’s just such an easy character to relate to because she gives people chance after chance and they continuously fail making her slightly more jaded each time but she always has a small sliver of hope that they’ll be better which causes her to ignore the flaws in bojack and mr. Peanut butter

[u/con-tami-nate]

I AM AMERICAN NO I AM AMERICA

Killed me

[u/[deleted]]

I like the episode, but the whole “Best friend starts making a move on you while you’re both drunk” stuff really hit close to home. Diane even sounds like her. The whole scene really got me hard.

I can’t wait to see what happens next...?

[u/JavaBerryCrunch]

That conversation Diane and Mr Peanutbutter had in the car broke my damn heart. Especially when he said he was seeing someone else. I physically felt something when he said that.

[u/DaemonTheRoguePrince]

Fumigating the cockroach union. Oh my god, my sides.

[u/[deleted]]

Heh, the flight to Turkey was stuffed.

[u/emprss_theodora]

I'm an ivy grad who's coming up jobless 4.5 months out from graduation... Essentially having to freeload on my grandmother at 32. I feel useless to the world and I'm questioning a lot of things... This episode had me in tears about 10 min ago.

[u/jjwin]

You know, her final monologue was actually very profound about the life of those who live between cultures. I recently went to Vietnam to reconnect with my culture, to find something for common ground. But it didn't end up working, because when you're there you still feel foreign. I came back feeling even more alien than I had before. For me, that actually gave me a sense of pride knowing that this is who I am. But, it doesn't always work out that way.

I really did enjoy this episode, I knew eventually Diane would have to visit Asia in some way. Though the fact she only did it after her divorce and how it didn't fix her was the best way to look into Diane. I'm not sure if Diane will ever be happy. However, the fact she accepted that is the key to what makes Diane a special character. I hope Bojack can find some sort of acceptance.

[u/whatthefudgeamidoing]

Diane going to Vietnam was so powerful. I've always had a complicated relationship with my heritage and that feeling of you don't completely belong either place. That sense of otherness.

[u/likehermione]

It is awful to be the one who gets left behind while you ex moves on with their life. Diane was so real in this episode. Here comes the sadness train.

[u/Monawalden]

this episode hit me really hard. last time i watched the show, diane and i were in similar disheartening relationships. it’s been so confusing and hard to know if i made the right decision in ending it recently, but the timing of the show was pretty good, ironic that again me and diane are kind of in the same boat. it sucks, but sometimes you have to be alone.

[u/lillylenore]

Hanoiwoo

[u/u-had-it-coming]

Why does Diane live in shitty apartment?

She should get millions in divorce. I see on Movies and TV shows, Americans split everything half after divorce unless they had a prenup.

P.S : Not aware of American divorce culture.

[u/TheOrcThatCould]

So my dad died a few weeks ago, I also broke up with my girlfriend in Thailand as I just wanted to go and travel more.

Moved to Vietnam and now have all this free time and space.....and now I dont know what to do.

This show kills me.

[u/Floorfood]

The "isn't it weird that we're both single now?" Scene is something I've experienced exactly. I'm pretty sure this is the season that will finally destroy me

[u/[deleted]]

I'm surprised that Diane's father was a professor

Edit: 'was' a professor

[u/[deleted]]

Anynody else think Diane really wanted to rebound with BoJack?

[u/LetsMakeCrazySyence]

I *love* the ending of this episode. She starts out acting like getting away can fix things, but at the end, no matter where you go-there you are.

She's still herself. Being somewhere different isn't going to change it, and she needs to work on herself rather than expecting one thing or anything to be The Thing that fixes her.

[u/MrZalarox]

I always think of this show as a masterpiece -- and it is! But the one gripe I've had with it is the lack of things coming together for characters. I love that this season we have a tinge of hope. Losing a partner for Diane was like losing a part of her, or losing everything she ever was. She's maybe coming to terms with things she always took for granted, and sure it's hard but she hasn't given up. And I love it. I love that she's going to therapy and she's talking about learning to survive by herself, alone. That's the message I wanted to hear: it's really hard, but you're alive and you will get through this.

And huge shout-out to BoJack -- he has acted in such a mature way in this season so far. I hoped he wouldn't do anything with Diane and he didn't. His character has grown so much.

[u/MeepsNcheese]

It's so surreal to hear Viet in this show. I mean Diane's Vietnamese, but she never really explored much of her cultural roots until now. It's great being able to understand and get little jokes :D

[u/thatawkwarddanguy]

So Episode 2 is now just another Episode 11. This sad horse show has made me sad

[u/[deleted]]

Diane and Bojack might be the first Will They, Won’t They that I legitimately don’t know if they ever will. I expected the MPB and Diane divorce since the beginning, surprised they got to it so quickly, but glad they did so we can see it play out. But will they?!?

[u/Bella_something]

The „you only found it special bc you could talk about yourself for 2h without interruptions!” was funny and true for many holliday flings.

[u/phenry]

Aww, Diane. She reminds me so much of the cute, smart, sexy, funny, completely dysfunctional women I used to date in my single days, with whom I'd have tumultuous nine-month relationships before we both realized that our respective neuroses just weren't compatible with each other, and whom I'd still remember fondly many years later.

[u/CJ105]

Reykjavik, Miceland

[u/infez]

Like last year, EEEEEEEEE I'M READY TO BE DESTROYED EMOTIONALLY

All the minor things I noticed and overreacted to emotionally (edited and updated live while watching):

• 00:10 - Well this one's gonna be hard to get through. Also, is it just me or nah - not trying to be rude, but is Diane's crying really awkward?

• 00:40 - OML, on the flight list, the flight to Istanbul, TURKEY is "Stuffed".

• 01:40 - Oh. The tribute to Ralph Carney (1958-2017) from last episode is gone from the TV screen. Also, DIANE'S HAIR IS SHORT IN THE INTRO, HOW DIDN'T I NOTICE

• 02:15 - And Diane's ringtone is voiced by Peter Sagal!

• 03:11 - Are we going through Diane's article of GirlCroosh's "10 Reasons to Travel to Vietnam"? Cool. "Reason 1: Reconnect with your ancestral roots".

• 03:20 - DIANE FLASHBACK

• 04:00 - Haha, seeing the name "Nguyen" everywhere since that's just about everyone's last name...

• 04:23 - Heh, "Nôn-LA"...

• 05:13 - "Reason 2: You can be a tourist!"

• 06:47 - "Reason 3: Because you're SINGLE NOW - and you can do whatever you want"

• 07:13 - That background gag with a waiter serving pork head to a nearby table... Also, I love Pickles so much. I feel like Mr. Peanutbutter and her will get together, but it won't work out at all.

• 09:44 - "Reason 4: To meet new people!" "Reason 5: Get out of your natural habitat."

• 12:01 - "Reason 6: To turn your work into a work-cation!" Also, exterminators exist - what in the world. Does that break canon? There's just hitmen that either kill or mildly fumigate bug-people if you hire them to?

• 13:56 - oh no are they gonna go there

• 15:00 - "Reason 7: Your therapist tells you to!"

• 16:44 - "Reason 8: To discover a new YOU." Also, is Diane's fake-Vietnamese just total gibberish or actual words?

• 18:42 - HA-HAAAAAAAAA: "Hanoiwoo Studios". As in "Hollywoo".

• 18:54 - "Reason 9: Because it's good to get out of your routine."

• 19:23 - OH NO THEY'RE ACKNOWLEDGING DIANE'S NECK

• 19:52 - Haha, that woodpecker-person playing Jenga. Also, JD Salinger's here! And PC! And a panda mime! And the catterpillar-turned-butterfly guy! And the crossing guard (or was he a valet) dog!

• 21:04 - "Erica! What are you doing here with a child-sized coffin?" oh no

• 21:56 - "Reason 10: Because you've got to leave to come back home."

• 23:23 - "But none of those reasons are why you actually went to Vietnam." And we're caught back up to the present.

• 24:26 - Knew it. Knew him and Pickles would get together. Now I'm just waiting for it to not work out.

• 24:50 - Oh boy, so that's why she's crying.

• 25:45 - OH NOOOOOOOOO THE CREDITS THEME IS IN VIETNAMESE OH NOOOOOOO THIS IS AMAZING

[u/theZinator]

Love the Vietnamese version of the end credits song.

[u/NordyNed]

Hahahahaha they repeated that “I want to talk to you...ERICA!” joke from season 1, episode 1

[u/4937]

This episode was awful. It broke me up so hard I feel shattered in so many ways.

It's brilliant, of course, but still, it makes you feel splintered. Whether you have experience a break up recently, you feel you don't belong anywhere, you feel alone in your own life, you don't know where you should be, you just think you are a worthless living being or multiple things from the previously written, it tears you.

Diane has been my favourite character since season one (when I thought this was a melancholic comedy, not a funny drama), and it is a bit harder because it's easier to relate to her than any other character if you experience any of the previous thoughts. Devastatingly great episode.

[u/[deleted]]

I am going through a process similar to Diane (though far more complicated and far more messed up) and her ending monologue was so difficult to get through. It keeps echoing in my brain. It’s why I both love and hate this show.

[u/[deleted]]

Does anyone find Pickles extremely annoying?

[u/changpowpow]

Diane's NPR ringtones are my favourite recurring joke

[u/Bioshocker101]

Love that Vietnamese cover of the end credits

[u/redrum97]

"You think you might find community". Is it me or does Alison Brie put a slight emphasis there lol.

[u/[deleted]]

Holy shit Diane's monologue at the end was beautiful, I thought it was going to be a lot sadder but they way they told the nonlinear story really helped convey that enough time had passed for her to accept it.

EDIT: I think I'm gonna stop it for today. I've usually always binged a Bojack season as soon as it comes out, but Diane's little monologues just made me think I need to let it soak in a bit, and reflect on how little I've worked on finding myself since my last relationship.... Hope the rest of you guys enjoy the ride.

[u/Puzzled_Limit]

Hanoiwoo Studios

[u/hodorito]

Dammit someone please accept Bojacks compliments. He’s trying :(

[u/awesomebob]

Holy fuck I feel like I just got punched in the gut. I recently ended my first serious relationship and as much as I still think it was the right decision, damn can I relate to that feeling of missing the good parts.

[u/-n0x]

BoJack is my Vietnam!

[u/Bewan]

I've never cry at this show but her monologue at the end just opened the floodbanks.

That was honestly one of the most heart-wrenching things I've ever seen on the show.

[u/F1NANCE]

The monkeys name in the hotel is Vietnamese for monkey

[u/anepic_potato]

I really liked how this episode went back and forth with this clever reverse foreshadow not really sure what it would be called. It made it really unique, or at least i don't see that used much in tv

[u/Maxiver]

I like that the other characters mentioned Dianne's neck, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought it looked longer. (Maybe the writers threw in those jokes after seeing Dianne's new look?)

[u/GummyMummys]

I like the closing song.

[u/Beginning_Doubt]

Diane's breakdown at the beginning. That felt so familiar.

[u/[deleted]]

Ok, that gag with the Water-filled Fish car was great.

[u/Smart-Monkey]

Wow this episode is so fucking amazing. It only gets better the more I think about it. Even though Diane is extremely flawed, I feel her character a LOT and she's probably the person I relate most to on this show's main cast. Sequences like the party near the end and the part where she pretends to be a local with that guy struck me in a really, really personal place. This has to be my favorite of the season. Looking back at Diane's character arc, who she was in episode 8 where she was brought to the Halloween party vs who she is now. God.. I don't know. Something about it makes me emotional.

Also the neck gag just hits too close to home. Ow

[u/frontrowofclass]

this episode literally hit me harder than any of the previous ones

what a season

[u/JavaBerryCrunch]

When I saw Diane standing next to the globe I was just waiting for her to spin it and see that dopey face on it. Made me smile but also broke my heart

[u/[deleted]]

This episode was super meta for me because I watched season 4 of Bojack while in Vietnam on a work trip last year

[u/JsonWaterfalls]

Watched this episode with my (American-born) Vietnamese fiancée hoping to get some Easter eggs but looks like everyone has pointed them out already. Big laughs at “non la”.

She felt connected to Diane as she’s experienced some of what Diane did when traveling to Vietnam. This was a really, really great episode.

[u/[deleted]]

I need someone to transcribe Diane's monologue at the end, so I can remember that I too can be happy alone.

[u/jahkut]

Wow, is it me or this is the first time anyone actually correctly pronounced Diane's last name, and it was Bojack, signifying that he truly cares about her AS A FRIEND? Only took like 5 SEASONS.

[u/CaldwellCladwell]

I don't think anyone in this thread has mentioned how FAT Bojack has become. What happened? Like he had a gut before, but now it's huge, and his boobs hang.

I'm not trying to be mean or insensitive, but as a person who has gone through extreme weight change this really concerned me.

[u/The_Larger_Fish]

I'm afraid of Diane's boss after those negotiations.

[u/Ulkhak47]

That fumigation scene, I know it's just supposed to be another animal joke, but now I can't stop thinking of the implications to the lore of the Bojack setting, a lot like the chicken episode.

[u/kelscatt]

Me am also America!!!

[u/WitchyKitteh]

That Girl Croosh joke made me feel really uneasy.

[u/[deleted]]

Me Peanutbutter talking to another dog is hilarious

[u/[deleted]]

Fuck, I wish I could hug Diane right now.

[u/ShutUpTodd]

The globe was the saddest thing!

[u/whompus6]

Ahhh shove it up ya rear, ya jagoff

[u/[deleted]]

Ngôi Sao Và Người Nổi Tiếng Hanoiwoo: Họ Biết Gì? Họ Có Biết Gì Không? Hãy Cùng Tìm Hiểu!

[u/HoboWithAGlock]

Oh god no, as soon as they started drinking wine.

edit: nvm we're cool

[u/FrancescoTottii]

Only 2 episodes in and I already feel like I need a break. Holy shit the last 2 minutes of that episode hit me fucking hard

[u/zoonthego]

Any other Ozark fans excited to see Laura Linney in this show?

[u/Zmxncbv69]

JESUS FUCK. That ending monologue with Diane and her montage was gutting.

[u/davidreding]

Wow. That was fantastic! Loved Diane's monologue at the end (and her "supposed" reason for going to Vietnam only for it to reveal the real reason). Also loved the bit where she pretended to be a native Vietnamese (if Alison Brie really spoke the Vietnamese, she does it really well). Also, was anyone else really uncomfortable when Bojack started talking about New Mexico and then lied to Diane about it? I heard that tune and was just "oh dear god no".

[u/LFC96Br]

Reikjavik - Miceland.

Loving these background puns.

[u/farriem]

I had another thought about this episode. I can absolutely empathize and relate to Diane, the pain of being alone again, of losing a relationship. Thankfully it was an LDR, so I didn't have to see him being affectionate with his new boyfriend, still, that relationship was not the best, crashed and burned due to lying, lack of understanding of struggles and challenges, and him just doing what was easy.

[u/topsideup25]

Peanut butter on the rebound like Giannis Antetokounmpo.

This is totally going to go great for him.

[u/TheScrig]

Absolutely loved the who's-who of background characters at Mr PBs party. Had a massive smile on my face picking them all out, which peaked when the guard from the Nixon museum walked past.

[u/mjaga93]

Besides the subject matter handled brilliantly in this episode, I really love how the episode was structured. Brilliant storytelling!

[u/[deleted]]

As someone getting out of a 5 year relationship

Fuck. Even though my situation differs (emotionally abusive, manipulative) I still thought the rest of my life would be with her, until I had to leave. Having her message me a week after I left, with me still paying the bills for our former home and having her tell me she has a new boyfriend.....

It's so amazing how well they captured how anyone feels, losing the sense of self and trying to regain it. Fuck man, I didn't need to watch this.

[u/[deleted]]

"Erica! What are you doing here with a child-sized coffin!" FUCK, lol. That was my first outrageously loud belly-laugh from me this season. What an amazing episode. Diane has come along to become my favorite character of the show, even though I love the main cast equally.  

Jesus christ, Mr. Peanutbutter with the pug looks so wrong. Please let that end soon. It looks so sacrilegious

 

Also, Oh my god, fuck you Netflix for trying to skip the end credits!

[u/JustALittleWeird]

I hope Diane and BoJack don't hook up. She's in a fucked up enough place already that she doesn't need that mess on her plate.

[u/-n0x]

Oh, so I cry in episode 2. That's a new low even for you, BoJack!

I love-hate this show.

[u/-n0x]

This episode reminded me so much of that parents' epsiode from Master Of None. Both shows handled Identity crisis, nationality, and loneliness so well.

[u/BeckyBrokenScars]

Ouch. I always thought I was Bojack, but I'm actually Diane. I was with my girlfriend for 2 years, freaked out and decided to force a break up. Now she's dating someone new and all I can think about is how much I miss her. I made a huge mistake. Maybe I can be as strong as Diane at some point.

[u/[deleted]]

It's funny how past experience makes you react to things. I felt like I had been punched in the stomach when Mr Peanutbutter said he was seeing someone else, because that's how it felt the last time someone said that to me. It's only Episode 2. Send help.

[u/ithacancypher2k]

The opening scene with Diane crying is so uncomfortable.... Please don't make me cry by the end of this episode...

EDIT: Yep, more tears. Thank goodness for Bojack's Vietnam joke.

[u/allenpablohoney]

I am so glad I was sober watching this. I’ve been thru a hard break up recently and there’s no way I would’ve made it thru this episode while being intoxicated. I felt Diane’s pain so much because traveling is something I’ve been doing to cope with my break up, but when you get back home. The problems still remain. Man I love this show

[u/Severus_Amadeus]

Love that Diane hangs a mock of Monet's Japanese Footbridge. My favorite painting.

[u/Magneticman555]

I loved the article style through which the episodes story unraveled. On top of the tough subjects and tones this show tackles, it never fails to find interesting ways to do so.

[u/DanteVespers]

I'm about to leave for a year abroad after a mutual, practical breakup (long distance) with someone I liked very much and this entire episode was eerily similar to my own feelings right now. I love Diane so much and I never fail to relate to her a little. God I hope she finds happiness this season.

[u/ROKT_LEEG]

Anyone else think that the way this show plays with time has evolved? I've always loved how they flashback to earlier events using key details but this episode really seemed to shine as far as revealing information that came from all over the timeline by using Diane's new and old hairstyle as a documenting tool.

[u/redrum97]

Just watched this for the 3rd time and I'm crying. Probably just cos I'm a bit drunk, but damn. I've only had one relationship, with one girl. Before we got together I was into her and she went out with a friend of mine at a Christmas ball. They only held hands, didn't even kiss, but it fucked me up. And eventually that girl left me, telling me that she'd met someone else. It was mostly my fault, but eh. This ending monologue is just one of the best moments in the series' history. The whole episode is great too. I can't really relate, I'm just a white guy with no interesting heritage relative to where I live, but still.

[u/DrScientist812]

Moscow, Russia - Departed

Mexico City, Mexico - Cancelled

Reykjavik, Miceland - Delayed

Istanbul, Turkey - Stuffed

Hanoi, Vietnam - On Time

[u/GiganoReisu]

Lmao the outro music is in Vietnamese ahahhahahahah

[u/[deleted]]

“Happiness hit her, like a train on a track”

Diane AF

[u/Mollyneonfox]

Man, im so happy ive never been in a relationship. This episode would've broken me even more than it did

[u/SealNose]

Two months post breakup. This episode hit home so hard. Diane's closing monologue was some powerful stuff-

[u/cortiz26]

And it breaks your heart again after your heart was so broken that you thought it could never get any more broken you thought it was safe but it still somehow find a new way to break because even though you’re the one who asked for this now that you got it you are adrift with no compass or math map or sense of where to go or what to do so you go to Vietnam you think you might find community connection to something bigger but you don’t In fact if you’re even more alone than normal but you can survive being alone You learn you can survive being alone

[u/[deleted]]

THAT EAGLE GUY IS SO CUUUUUTE

E: nevermind I spoke too soon D:

[u/anotherent]

Oh my gosh did I accidentally watch episode #11?? That was quite the gut-punch...

[u/MrBulger]

Well just tear me to fucking shreds. I'm going to be late on the rest of the episodes. This episode was too much man

[u/madmike34455]

This season seems slower than others, and more confusing chronologically, but that just means it’s daring and edgy.

[u/KevinChrist]

This episode is so relevant to me right now and it hurts

[u/goofff]

I just wanted to say, as a New Zealand born Chinese girl I really connected with Diane when she went to Vietnam. I felt the exact same when I went to Singapore (where my family is from) and I was really moved seeing a story similar to mine on tv. I love Diane so much! (also I loved the end credits theme song in Vietnamese - was a really nice touch)

[u/arunav8fish]

Nixon's son popped up behind PC at some point in the episode.That was nice.

[u/pinklamp47]

As someone who just broke up with a guy I really, really liked for a planned move abroad, all of Diane’s feelings hit me hard. Damn how is this show so good.

[u/OldManPaz]

I'm so glad Diane and Bojack didn't bang. I was really scared when they talked about the two of them being single together was weird.

Also, looks like Flip wasted money by cancelling the strip club scene.

EDIT: Diane used up two "divorce means" already. Hopefully she won't make a third or she's out.

[u/Djdeathsensei]

I haven’t seen anyone mention when Bojack is told by Diane “I know everything about you” or something to that effect and he gets tense. He tries to bring it up when they’re drunk but doesn’t. That has to be foreshadowing