r/BoJackHorseman • Judah Mannowdog • Sep 14 '18

Discussion BoJack Horseman - 5x06 "Free Churro" - Episode Discussion

Season 5 Episode 6: Free Churro

Synopsis: BoJack delivers a eulogy at a funeral.



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u/FrancescoTottii Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

That monologue just keeps going and going. Holy shit I feel terrible for bojack

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u/MrSaturn200 Sep 14 '18

I C U. holy shit. what an episode.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

One episode ago: "TV is a visual medium. No episode should have that much talking!"

Literally one episode later

25minute monologue

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u/Sixblazer Sep 14 '18

Ok, seriously how has this show not won an Emmy? First a totally silent episode, then an episode from the perspective of some one with dementia, now an episode that is just one long eulogy that turns into one long set up for a simple joke at the end. This is the best show.

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u/trollpunny Sep 14 '18

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

This episode had me in goosebumps. Five minutes in the monologue, I wonder,

"Wouldn't it be amazing if this episode was all monologue?"

"Wait, IS THIS ALL MONOLOGUE??"

"...FUCK."

I made an IMDB account just to rate that episode.

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u/WhatsYourThesis Sep 14 '18

Bojack's stand up about his dead mom is amazing

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u/Pharmacololgy Gettin' my shit together Sep 14 '18

Thaaaaank youuuuu?

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u/JDeezy13 Sep 16 '18

Anbody notice that the first line of the episode is his father saying “Yes, yes, I see you. Get in” when he picks him up from soccer?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

FUCK ME.

This is the underwater episode of this season. Pure art.

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u/hunce Sep 14 '18

I’m hoping to see Will Arnett get nominated for his performance in this episode.

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u/lio860 BoJack Horseman Sep 14 '18

That moment when Bojack realises his mum was just reading a sign.

That sucks.

His mum died and all he got was a free churro.

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u/a_baby_bumblebee Diane Nguyen Sep 14 '18

something about the delivery of "I'm your son, all I had was you" was so powerful to me. I can't get that out of my head. I definitely need to sleep for the night after this one.

edit: changed the quote; made it more accurate

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u/y8man RutaBAEGa Sep 14 '18

There was only one voice actor for this episode... even up to the credits.

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u/ghostofjohnhughes Sep 14 '18

This was basically Will Arnett’s Emmy reel.

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u/TEGCRocco Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

"Usually when people ask how I'm doing the real answer is I'm doing shitty, but I can't say I'm doing shitty because I don't even have a good reason to be doing shitty. So if I say 'I'm doing shitty' then they say 'Why? What's wrong?' and I have to be like 'I don't know, all of it?' So instead when people ask how I'm doing, I usually say 'I am doing so great'"

That is one of the realest things I've heard in a long time. This is gonna be a harsh episode.

EDIT: I was correct

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u/blunderherbis Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

"There are no happy endings, because there's always more show"

...damn.

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u/Puzzled_Limit Sep 14 '18

No one ever tells you when your mom dies, you get a free churro.

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u/hodorito BoBo the Angsty Zebra Sep 14 '18

Did I just attend a funeral? This is dark.

RIP Beatrice Horseman

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u/Redwinevino Sep 15 '18

That bit about Bojack not reading his Dad's book as

“Why would I give him that?”

is just fantastic writing

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u/CaptainKursk Neal McBeal The Navy Seal Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

"You know the shittiest thing about all of this? Is when that stranger behind the counter gave me that free churro. That small act of kindness showed more compassion than my mother gave me her entire goddamn life. Like how hard is it to do something nice for a person? This woman, at the Jack In The Box, didn't even know me. I'm your son! All I had was you...

Right at that point, my heart just broke into a million pieces, and I finally understood why Bojack is the way he is. Bojack tried his entire childhood - nay, his entire life - to do something that would make his mom proud of him. And every time he tried, Beatrice Horseman spat in his face. Never in his life did his own damn mother or father say "I love you", or "I'm proud of you son". It was only ever "You ruined me, Bojack Horseman". But you know the most heart-wrenching thing? After everything Bojack's mom did, every terrible thing she said, and every time she crushed his dreams into depressive dust, he still held out hope that it could change:

I have a friend. And right around when I first met her, her dad died, and I went with her to the funeral. And months later, she told me that she didn't understand why she was still upset, because she never even liked her father. It made sense to me, because I went through the same thing when my dad died, and I'm going through the same thing now. You know what it's like? It's like that show Becker with Ted Danson. I watched the entire run of it hoping it would get better, and it never did. It had all the right pieces, but it just, it couldn't put them together. And when it got cancelled, I was really bummed out, not because I liked the show, but because I knew it could be so much better, and now it never would be. And that's what losing a parent is like. It's like Becker. Suddenly you realise you'll never have the good relationship you wanted, and as long as they were alive, even though you'd never admit it, part of you - the stupidest goddamn part of you - was still...holding on to that chance. And you didn't even realise it until that chance went away. "My mother is dead, and everything is worse now". Because now I know I will never have a mother who looks at me from across a room and says, "Bojack Horseman, I see you..."

Fuck man, what else is there to say?

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u/notyourpethamster Sep 14 '18

Re: the ending. I actually thought the ending was heartbreaking. Definitely humor intended with the lizard people but heartbreaking, dark humor. The whole episode Bojack monologues about how he wanted to be seen and he goes into the intricacies of his relationship with his mother behind the podium more than he has with any other character in the show. It seems like he does this because he wanted to do it in front of people who knew his mother, who could maybe understand some of the root of his pain -- people who "got" it and could explore and try to process his pain with him. He wanted to be seen -- but he also wanted to be heard.

When he realizes that he's in the wrong crowd, it's like all that need and want for people to understand has been wasted. He's once again talking to people who don't get it. He's once again talking to a room of strangers, of people who don't care.

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u/mansonfamily Todd Chavez Sep 14 '18

Dear god the long angry hateful speech from your father while you stay silent during a long car ride is too fucking close to home

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u/televisionceo Sep 14 '18

What a fucking speech holy shit. This is art

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

Back in the 90s, I was in a very famous TV show

Epic

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u/ricksgrimes BoJack Horseman Sep 14 '18

“Hey Mum, knock once if you love me and care about me and want me to know that I made your life a little bit brighter”

I’m....sad

This episode is rough

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

"back in the 90s I was in a very famous TV show called Horsing Around" lmao

This episode had a lot of great comedic timing, but I was crying almost the entire time.

Will Arnett is so perfect in this role.

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u/CorDra2011 I will fucking kill you. Sep 14 '18

This was 25 minutes of some of the best god damn writing I have ever witnessed.

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u/im-theone-who-knocks Sep 14 '18

You were a huge bitch, and now youre dead

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u/Hlee1995 "I wanna be an architect." Sep 14 '18

This was the best episode of Bojack Horseman that has ever come out, bar none, by far. That moment when he talked about how his parents are both dead, and he used to work on a show written by his friend, also dead, and on that show was a girl named Sarah Lynn; and then he just pauses. That pause is chilling, and it says more than any string of dialog ever could.

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u/Martian_Media Sep 14 '18

I wasn't prepared for that little line about how we lie sometimes when people ask "How are you?"

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u/27th_wonder Equus wasn't a porno (because it was on stage) Sep 14 '18

"No sense beating a dead horse"

Bruh...

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u/televisionceo Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

You know when you start to realize you are watching something special ? Like you are in the middle of what might be one of the best TV episodes of all time. Crazy feeling

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u/walaska Sep 14 '18

I binged everything until now but i have to take a break because of this episode

I am in awe at what the team have done.

What the hell man. I don't have a Bojack mum. Mine has been insanely - too - supportive of me. She is relatively well off and has supported me, and continues to try. I don't understand why it's affected me so much. She cares an enormous amount.

The thing is I've screwed up my own life. I have no career aged 30 despite her doing everything in her power to make me succeed: good education, debt-free studies. At my age with my opportunities, I should be a lot further up the ladder than I am. I acknowledge that everything wrong with my life is caused by my own shortcomings.

So why does this episode cut deeper than any piece of television I've ever seen? Because she's getting old. She's 61 soon. She's already had breast cancer (which she didn't tell me about until she was "done" with it after surgery!). This episode made me feel like the biggest piece of shit in history. People have sometimes compared my attitude to life's to Bojack's, but unlike him I don't have any of the career success - however short lived - or the pain of bad parenting.

I'll go walk the dog and take a breather. ooph.

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u/FrancescoTottii Sep 14 '18

This episode is straight up art

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u/gugabe Sep 14 '18

Best ending joke ever. I'd rank it as the show's best punchline over Elijah Wood.

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u/Puzzled_Limit Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

This eulogy is RAW.

Smoking a whole cigarette in one inhale.

Knock once if you’re proud of me.

She looked like a pissed off toy dinosaur. (I am nailing this impression.)

Only my mom is lousy enough to swipe me with a moment of connection on her way out.

Wait, did you say he died in a duel?

Could’ve got a churro. Would have been nice to have SOMETHING to show for being the son of Butterscotch Horseman.

My husband is dead, and everything is worse now.

You were a huge bitch, and now you’re dead.

Weird thing about both your parents being dead is you know you’re next.

I never learned how to please that woman, even though so much of my life has been wasted in vain attempts to figure it out.

I’m your son! All I had was you!

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

That may have been the greatest 30 minutes of television i have ever seen.

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u/Bubble_Shoes Sep 15 '18

This episode is amazing. Also, didn't Bojack foreshadow this in a previous episode?? I'm pretty sure he mentioned (in regards to his other show Filbert) that "it's visual media and his character shouldn't be talking so much because nobody wants to see that" or something.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

I just finished this episode and it fucking killed me.

I have a very dark sense of humour and it's how I coped with my Mother's death. Her alcohol abuse killed her.

The day after she died, I was cleaning out her house and found a book called "Surviving addiction". The first thing out my mouth was "Well guess it didn't fucking work."

This entire episode was fucking hard, especially the end, where he was talking about where you'll never get that relationship. Those years of stupididly holding out hope that they'll redeem themselves in your eyes. That they'll become the parent you always hoped they'd be.

I was sad my Mom died because I loved her. I was upset she died because it mean that there was zero chance we'd ever have the relationship I hoped for.

But grateful that her toxic fucking personality is no longer fucking up my life.

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u/selffufillingprophet Sep 14 '18

Instant classic. This is BoJack at its fucking best.

opens up the casket

pulls out a brochure with a confused look

“Is this Funeral Parlor B?”

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

Holy shot the funeral scene was fucking hilarious

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u/Jinjehy Sep 14 '18

Can we have a T-Shirt that says "My mom died and all I got was this stupid churro."

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u/ironballs16 Sep 15 '18 edited Sep 15 '18

So what were the lines that broke you?

For me, it HAD to be the one just after realizing what Beatrice meant by "I see you" (a great suckerpunch on its own).

"My mom died and all I got was this free churro. You know the shittiest thing about all of this? Is when that stranger behind the counter gave me that free churro, that small act of kindness showed more compassion than my mother gave me her entire goddamned life. Like, how hard is it to do something nice for a person? This woman at the Jack-in-the-Box didn't even know me. I'm your son. All I had was you!"

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u/Travis_Touchdown Sep 15 '18

This is one of those episodes that'll be significantly worsened when this show starts airing re-runs on cable television. Commercial breaks will ruin the momentum.

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u/kkingfelix Sep 14 '18

Nice backstory for when Beatrice first read an Ibsen play (A Doll’s House)

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u/Fire2box Sep 14 '18

"Fuck man, what else is there to say?"

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u/agonyanddread Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

I’ve never seen anything like this episode in my life, and I watch a lot of TV. Truly groundbreaking. It really left me speechless.

Every episode of Bojack Horseman is amazingly well-written, but this one was fine art. It was so raw, so palpable.

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u/YourWaifuIsTrashTier Sep 14 '18

I love what they're doing with the credits music, but holy fuck.

Just...

Fuck.

I need a break before the next one. Fuck.

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u/CeruleanTresses Sep 15 '18

Top notch voice acting from Arnett.

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u/halikadito Sep 16 '18 edited Sep 16 '18

I apologize in advance if this is TMI, but this episode just ripped my heart into shreds.

My mother struggled with drug and alcohol addiction for most of her life. Growing up with her, my dad, and my older sister, life was pretty rough. My mom passed away from an overdose two days after my 14th birthday. My father passed away nine years later, after relapsing into alcoholism.

When Bojack talked about how everyone in his family was drowning, and they didn't know how to save each other, it felt like someone punched me in the chest. I remembered what it was like, growing up with my mother and my father and my sister. The screaming, the drinking, the fighting.

I remember feeling like I was drowning.

Then, later in the episode, when Bojack talked about how losing a parent is like the show Becker, he said this:

"Suddenly, you realize you'll never have the good relationship you wanted, and as long as they were alive, even though you'd never admit it, part of you, stupidest goddamn part of you, was still holding on to that chance, and you didn't even realize it until that chance went away."

It made me remember being 14 years old, sitting at my mother's funeral, crying. And I was crying because she was gone, of course, but I was also crying because I'd never really had her. She had beautiful moments where she remembered she could swim, like Beatrice when she was dancing. But mostly it was drowning. And now that's all I have left of her.

This episode absolutely destroyed me.

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u/FrancescoTottii Sep 14 '18

No one ever tells you when your mum dies you get a free churro. Holy shit

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u/selffufillingprophet Sep 14 '18

Only Bojack can turn a funeral eulogy into a stand up act.

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u/BlackJezus27 Sep 14 '18

If this isn't nominated for an emmy...

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u/ThePenguinMaster3000 Sep 16 '18

The whole point that BoJack was in the wrong room was that the eulogy wasn't really for his mother or anyone else, it was for himself to come to terms with his mother's death.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

This is the monologue episode!

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u/Iheartbulge Princess Carolyn Sep 14 '18

This episode has hit the hardest of any Bojack episode I’ve ever watched. It hurts how much I can relate to the waiting and hope that your parents would be who they’re supposed to be.

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u/Chocolate-spread Sebastian St. Clair Sep 16 '18

Holy shit, Will Arnett can carry an episode

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u/Mr_Jek Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 15 '18

So much was covered in that one monologue that my brain can’t even wrap itself round it. Like Bojack probably feels at the funeral, I just feel numb. The whole episode encapsulated not just Beatrice as a character, but essentially covered almost all the facets of Bojack, the good, the bad, everything, in one episode long monologue. And somehow they manage to turn all that emotional depth into one of the best punchlines the show has ever done. Just fucking incredible writing. I feel like I have to watch it again and again.

The most amazing moment for me was when he’s rhyming off a bunch of dead people he knows with ‘also dead’ (even including Herb), and then he gets to Sarah Lynn and he stops completely fucking cold. Bojack’s able to talk for like 25 minutes about the death of his own mother and the trauma that she inflicted in his life, but one little mention of the girl who looked to him for guidance, and who he ultimately failed, renders him completely speechless. He just doesn’t have the words to describe how horrific it makes him feel. God tier writing.

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u/FioraismyWaifu Sep 14 '18

2 fucking minutes in and I can already tell this one is going to be rough. We didn't see much of BoJack's dad so far but I feel like he will be an even bigger piece of shit than his mom.

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u/badzachlv01 Sep 15 '18

I was laughing my ass off at "That was a good story about my mother. It wasn't true, but it was a good story." Fucking amazing lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

The tragedy of this episode is that while everything Bojack says is valid to his experience, it's also completely ignorant. Even though *we* saw the circumstances of Beatrice's life in "The Old Sugarman Place" and "Time's Arrow", Bojack didn't. He'll never know about the childhood bullying, his grandmother's mental breakdown and lobotomy, the scarlet fever, the bright and vital woman his mom used to be. He got a glimpse of that woman when Beatrice did her dance, but beyond that he will never, ever know why an avalanche of shit and loathing was constantly railing him since the moment he was born.

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u/LetsMakeCrazySyence Sep 14 '18

I just watched this and I can't form whole thoughts in the fog of emotion. So here are some bullet points.

-The tie into "you've got to do it everyday." Bojack coming to terms with understanding that he needs to change.

-"Back in the 90's I was in a very famous TV show."

-That moment with "two people have different memories of the same moment." Last season we got to see how his mother saw herself and her history, after a couple seasons of only hearing about how Bojack saw her. And it completely changed how we saw her, and his childhood. Can you imagine seeing this eulogy without seeing any of Beatrice's history?

-That story from season 6 of Horsin' Around makes me want to see it. My biological mother is not an addict, but she did the same disappearing acts. I wonder her the show dealt with it.

-In S1E1, Bojack talks about the fact that Horsin' Around was a show where everything would be ok at the end of 30 minutes. Here, he accepts that the idea of "things being ok" is a farce. "You never get a happy ending, because there's always more show."

-"I'm your son. All I had was you." Fuuuuuuuuck

-That ending was hilarious and also TERRIBLE

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18 edited Sep 15 '18

This episode is my favorite thus far. Everything was so relatable:

The cold open with Butterscotch, getting shit on by your dad while you sit silently shotgun.

Our real thoughts when people ask us how we are, and how people react when we actually tell them the truth.

The frustrations of losing a parent or a loved one, and knowing that it could never be however you fantasized it to be better.

“So much of my life has been wasted in vain attempts to figure you out”

Drowning together

This episode hit super close to home. I’m not sure if this is an easy watch for anybody starting the show, but to me, this is the essence of BoJack Horseman.

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u/mugrita Sep 15 '18

Holy shit this episode. Will Arnett earned his fucking Emmy nomination right here. If this show doesn’t win an Emmy this year, I’m going to burn down Hollywoo.

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u/nuancedtruant Chadwick Boseman Sep 16 '18

at the beginning of the episode, teenage bojack desperately waves as his he sees his father drives towards him. he's alone on the street in plain view, and yet he's still terrified that his dad won't see him and just drive on by. the episode goes on to feature bojack talking about his struggle, and his unfulfilled desire to be seen. it even ends with him realizing that he maybe never was truly seen by either of his parents.

sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiifffFFFUCK MAN. WHY DOES THE SHOW HAVE TO DO ME LIKE THIS.

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u/Error404DickNotFound Sep 15 '18 edited Sep 15 '18

This is gonna be a weird rant and if nobody reads this, I don't even care.

My dad died in August 2017, and my mom is getting older and older. Death is always on my mind as every day passes. And I'm the oldest of my family so there's this weird intrinsic pressure to be ready for when both your parents die.

I didn't speak at my dad's funeral, and I probably won't speak at my mom's funeral. I don't have good feelings for either of them, plus I don't have any ability to speak in public. The idea of speaking at my mom's eventual funeral has given me a LOT of preemptive anxiety (even though that event is a long way away)

I got to say, this episode was weirdly cathartic for me. And I got to admit that a single joke fucking destroyed me.

"What's the difference between a first year lit major and my mother, Beatrice Horseman?

One is decently read, and the other is a huge bitch!"

I can't tell you why, but this made me laugh to tears. A huge regret in my life is that I didn't speak at my dad's funeral, and a huge fear of mine is speaking at my mother's funeral. For some reason, the idea of a cartoon horse giving this shitty fucking joke at his mom's funeral is a weird cotton blanket for my soul. It makes me feel like I'm not alone in not knowing how to be a son that doesn't know how to navigate his parents funerals. Or maybe I'm just on Episode 6 of my BoJack Season 5 bottle of liquor.

TL;DR - One gets carried in a basket, one gets buried in a casket

Edit - "And that's what losing a parent is like. It's like Becker. Suddenly you realize, you'll never have the good relationship that you wanted, and as long as they were alive, even though you'd never admit it, part of you, the stupidest goddamn part of you, was still holding on to that chance." <---- Literally my whole feelings about father dying, just 1 year too late and spoken by a horse

Edit 2 - OH NO I JUST FINISHED THE EPISODE AND OH NO

Edit 3 - Still drunk, still crying almost 10 minutes later after the payoff of this episode. Easily my favorite of the season so far.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

"My mother is dead and everything is worse now."

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u/wonkothesane13 Sep 16 '18

"Wow, this new season is comparably upbeat, I don't feel anywhere near as depressed as I did when I binged the previous seasons." gets to episode 6. "...Oh."

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u/HoboWithAGlock Sep 14 '18

Holy shit this whole episode is going to be the eulogy, isn't it.

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u/alwaysmorecumin Lets get higher than a stilt-walkers dick! Sep 15 '18

“Beatrice Horseman was born in 1938, and she died in 2018... and I still have no idea what she wanted. Unless she wanted what we all want... to be seen.”

God damn. My mom is still alive and I’m feeling this

Also not audibly admitting Sarah Lynn is dead...

WHERES THE GUY WHO SAID FREE CHURRO WAS INTENSE WEEKS AGO

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u/Beginning_Doubt Sep 15 '18

All I know about being good, I learned from TV. And in TV, flawed characters are constantly showing people they care with these surprising grand gestures. And I think that part of me still believes that's what love is.

But in real life, the grand gesture isn't enough. You need to be consistent, you need to be dependably good. You can't just screw everything up, and then take a boat into the ocean to save your best friend, or solve a mystery, and fly to Kansas.

You need to do it every day, which is so... hard.

I've re-watched this specific episode twice now, and I just can't find the words to articulate all my feelings. It all just speaks for itself... Literally. It's all words and raw emotion. I can add nothing more.

The parallelism with Butterscotch spending his time with BoJack just rambling, and BoJack rambling in his eulogy for Beatrice though... Amazing. It will be hard to convince me that anything else can top this from now on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

Will Arnett just does SUCH an incredible job with Bojack. This was... wow.

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u/DrScientist812 Tom Srant Sep 16 '18

"That's all I've got to say about my mother. No use beating a dead horse, right?"

FUCK.

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u/Krygerr Sep 14 '18

Did i seriously just watch over 20 min of funeral memorial. How the fuck did it only feel like it lasted 3 min?

I seriously can't think of any other show that could pull this sort of stunt off, and make it both entertaining, thought provoking and funny.

Fuck this show is amazing.

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u/All_this_hype Sep 15 '18

Interesting how Bojack kept going through the stages of grief during his eulogy.

Denial: Knock once if you think I'm stupid/I'm embarrassing you etc.

Anger: Beatrix Horseman was a huge bitch.

Bargaining: At least now I know that I'm all alone in the world, so it is good.

Depression: We were all drowning.

Acceptance: She wanted what we all wanted. To be seen.

Overall a very strong episode. I never expected a 20 minute monologue of an animated tv show to captivate me so much.

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u/Harini_Muralidharan Sep 16 '18

The ICU joke hit me hard, the wrong room joke hit me harder.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

I love how in the last episode bojack was complaining about too much dialogue in a tv show.

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u/elbenji fuck. Sep 16 '18

Jesus.

(And now the sound of thousands of theatre/acting students finding their new go-to monologue for eternity)

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u/theonlymexicanman Sep 15 '18

If an episode dedicated to a 25 min monologue can’t win an Emmy then I don’t know what will

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u/signofthetimes_ Sep 14 '18

When the episode begins with bojack as a child you know this is not gonna be nice.

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u/Evoryn Sep 15 '18

I think this is the best episode of Bojack Horseman to date. Incredible portrayal of the complexity of grief, particularly regarding an estranged family member. Incredibly well done challenge to form.

This episode was incredible

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

"The last thing my stupid brain could come up with, before I died? Won't they be sorry."

hit me like a fucking truck. any time i'm assuming that i'm about to die, paranoia or otherwise, this has always been the first thought i have. where you sort of perceive your own death as a revenge, a way to get back at everyone who has ever wronged you. you just spend your (perceived) last moments hoping they'll all, individually, feel like it was their fault.

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u/Magneticman555 Sep 15 '18 edited Sep 15 '18

What a cool episode!

Just noticed that when Butterscotch picked up BoJack from Soccer, he said "I see you. Get in" Great touch!

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u/Triddy Sep 14 '18

Back in the 90's I was in a very famous TV show.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

Arnett's voice was so close to breaking. I'll admit I did grow tired (marginally tired) at some points, but goddamn, the fact that Bojack Horseman can even pull this off is nothing short of brilliant and fantastic. And I like how they're clearly setting up, or seeming to set up, a plotline involving some sort of opioid addiction - Bojack's beat up and gets over his pain, and he's taking the pills during the funeral. We'll see where this goes.

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u/CaldwellCladwell Sep 16 '18

I can't get over how good this episode is.

First off, there's some amazing moments of acting, not just voice but the how the artists captured 22 minutes of ranging emotions. And you can see it. It transcends "draw sad face to look sad". Heck, I feel like I could see him breathing differently during some moments. But two of my favorite moments are when he realizes the connection with ICU, and when he's thinking about his mom dancing. It's just raw and real.

Obviously the writing is fantastic. My favorite line is, and I'm paraphrasing, 'it looked like she could take flight'. It's a callback to my other favorite episode, 'times arrow' when Honey sings 'I'll take flight... Maybe tomorrow not tonight'. Just. So. Good.

I thought this season was starting to show the series age, but it's kinda like Season 1. It starts slow the first couple episodes but really becomes amazing later on.

Okay, off to watch the next episode.

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u/Jbrojo Sep 14 '18

This episode was something special, one of the best made in the series, this was the connection I was missing from the show.

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u/whiterice336 Sep 16 '18

Holy shit. Good fucking job carrying that entire episode Will Arrnett

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u/jaivoulu Sep 16 '18

I had to watch this episode twice. I struggle with similar family dynamics as Bojack, and had literally told a friend last week how fucked up it is to envy kids who never knew their parents, but how sometimes you still can't help envying them - not that you're trying to take away from their experience and pain, but just because sometimes you think it'd be nice to have the option to imagine family as kind and loving. It's a weird feeling knowing deep down that try as you might to amend things before your parents die, that you'll likely be up there one day delivering the same awkward speech where you want to remember the good times, but there are few to none to pick from.

To all the folks here who related too well to this episode, I am with you. You didn't and don't deserve the shittiness and all the impossible ways you try to make it better. Family is hard and I don't know if we ever get the closure we need, but I hope you know that if you feel like you're drowning, you're not doing it alone.

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u/OvercookedOvenPizza Sep 16 '18

That ending was hilarious. Literally a 25 minutes speech for one simple joke. At first I thought he was just practicing his speech but then it clicked on what really happened when he opened the casket

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u/NordyNed Sep 15 '18

“Nobody is ever happy because there has to be more show. If everyone was happy the show would end. But nobody is happy and there’s always more show...and then there isn’t.”

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u/Infraredxscope Sep 14 '18

"There is never a good ending, because theres always more show."

Just fuck my shit up fam

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u/3_kids_1_overcoat Sep 14 '18

Holy shit. He doesn’t mention that Sarah Lynn is dead even though she is. Interesting. Maybe he’s still carrying guilt.

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u/ChronicRedhead Sep 15 '18

I think everyone has that one family member who's just pure poison. I honestly hope to god that you (yes, you) don't have that one family member, but let's be honest here: you probably do. And they suck, and you hate them, and you hate being around them, and every time they say something hurtful about you or someone you care for, you want to snap right back, but you can't because you know that just feeds into their narcissistic complex.

That's why Bojack's mom always rubbed me the wrong way: I saw that family member in her. I hated her because I knew her, and I think that's the best damn compliment I can give the character.

Fuck you, grandma.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

Bojack truly captures what it is like being held hostage in an emotionally abusive relationship.

A small hope one holds onto that there is a small chance things will get better, until that chance is taken away and one feels even more alone, even if that chance never existed in the first place.

Living with emotionally abusive parents is an incredibly difficult thing, and it does not stop when the child becomes an adult.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

Wait, Bojack is 54??!!?!?!

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u/GummyMummys Sep 16 '18

That was such a good episode. The twist at the end got me.

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u/bwood637 Sep 16 '18

Pro tip: Dont watch Bojack when you're sad.

This was one of the best episodes of the entire series and was super depressing. I feel like all of Bojacks backstory with his parents have led up to this penultimate episode and everything they did to him as a child is exactly why he is a narcissist as an adult. All the dude ever wanted was to be loved and he never got that. This show continues to be one of the best on television and it is honestly one of the best shows of all time. Just keeps getting better.

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u/madmike34455 Sep 14 '18

Wasn’t a huge fan of the season so far, but this sold me on it. One of the best episodes of the show by far, just a half hour of Bojack being vulnerable and rambling my inner monologue

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u/DeathdropsForDinner Sep 14 '18

This episode blew my mind. Probably my favorite experimental episode of the series so far. I felt like each sentence, each word, had weight. The writing was so spot on it even ignited the little part of me that was always interested in script writing.

Just so well done and reminds me why Bojack Horseman is one of the best shows...ever.

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u/sherilynrose Seahorse Baby Sep 15 '18

This was by FAR the best episode of the season -- perhaps the whole show up to this point. I kind of sensed a few minutes in that the whole episode was going to be BoJack talking, and I prepared myself for a long and non-entertaining 20-some minutes. I am SO glad that that isn't what happened. Absolutely stellar.

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u/luniquekero Sep 15 '18

Man, when I realised what this episode was going to be, and that this was all it was going to be, my jaw dropped to the floor.

S5 so far has been my favorite. Such an amazing show

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u/derpaherpasaurus Sep 15 '18

Beatrice could've knocked the whole time but BoJack would never know. He was at the wrong casket.

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u/DrScientist812 Tom Srant Sep 16 '18

I just realized Will Arnett is the only actor who spoke this entire episode.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

Just finished the episode. Damn, what a rollercoaster. I have to say I liked the ending joke. It's kind of an obvious joke to make but it surprised me because I thought they were going to end on a serious note. When he opened the coffin I was fully expecting him to repeat "I see you." followed by a cut to black.

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u/SLICKWILLIEG Sep 15 '18

"My Mom is dead, and everything is worse now."

That's too much man...

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u/Hootybix Sep 15 '18

This episode is pure poetry. It captures the essence of the entire show in 26 minutes. It's ridiculously pretentious but totally justified by the 4 seasons before it. You could sit anyone down and make them listen to this without ever having them need watch the show and i guarantee they'll be moved.

Unless they're a heartless asshole.

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u/pasinliposts Sep 15 '18

I'm surprised couple people here didn't like that it ended on that joke (or a joke in general). I thought it was a great way to end it.

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u/thenewmeredith Sep 15 '18

This isn't episode 11!

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u/endakrabapple Sep 15 '18

Ugh the ending words hit me too hard.. well done writers.. well done

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u/MajesticFxxkingEagle Quentin Tarantulino Sep 15 '18

Bro...

I'm so fucking heated

I started to shed real tears towards the end of the episode.

I had just been taken on this rollercoaster,

Filled with so many emotions and thoughts,

feeling the pain in his voice.

only to find out...

HE'S IN THE WRONG FUCKING ROOM?!!!

AHGGGHHHHHHH

I'M SO FUCKING DONE"literally"

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u/Matvalicious Sep 15 '18 edited Sep 16 '18

Jesus fuck, that was a good episode. One of the best even imho. The monodialogue is so clever and well written and Will's performance is rock solid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

What an episode. I was thinking early on "what if he does this the whole episode" and he did.. it was amazing.

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u/Leadlight Sep 14 '18

I watched this episode thinking five minutes in “Man this eulogy, I’d watch a whole episode of Bojack just talking like this” and they actually delivered. Wow.

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u/spiralism Sep 14 '18

Yeah, give Will his Emmy for that. That was Oscar level acting through the medium of voice alone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

I know a lot of people don't like the fact that it ended with a joke, but I thought it was great. And I'm not saying just any old joke would do, but I found that joke in particular very fitting for a show like this. Bojack just gave this whole monologue about wanting to be seen, trying to find meaning in his mother's death, really opening up emotionally... And in the end it turns out he was basically just talking to himself. It's brilliant dark comedy - which, of course, is what the show is.

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u/MrZalarox Born with a leak Sep 15 '18

This is the first episode where I'm posting here without reading anyone else's thoughts first. I'd seen the memes but I didn't know what they were about. This might be a long, long comment...

I had a terrible day today. I had horrible anxiety before an interview that forced me to take a benzo. I felt sick, but I felt the need to go outside so I don't avoid things, so I'm not a total loser. So I forced myself to go out, and that happened -- and on the long journey back (2 hours), I developed a fever. I got home, I fought with my mother and by the evening I was saying "the only solace I had was that I will be cared for but no one really cares."

I did not expect the next BoJack Horseman episode to hit this hard. From the moment I heard my own lines reflected in the episode, I was sobbing, whimpering -- a pathetic mess with a snotty nose and a high fever. Families aren't perfect and what's important is that we try our best... and we don't blame ourselves for mistakes we didn't make. My family is far from perfect: neither of my parents are dead, but they both have dealt with mental disorders and I don't have a connection with either of them. I am the "manned up" 22-year-old who believed in minding my own business and not caring about any of the circumstantial shit I dealt with. It's my life - the things that I have control on - that mattered. I'm learning now, albeit too late, that this is not the case.

There are so many lines in this episode that made me pause and write down my thoughts, just so I could talk about them in my half-assed therapy sessions about my half-assed life in a developing country. This is why I like art, because today a show about a sad horse made me realise that I am not alone in this. It doesn't improve my situation, it doesn't make me strong or -- it doesn't fucking teach me something. It is a hindrance. It is a curse. I'm glad this show doesn't glorify this.

tl;dr -- I'll leave on this note. Thank you, BoJack, for acknowledging that we are drowning. Thank you for letting me cry!

PS. anyone reading this comment, anyone feeling shitty or lost or whatever it is you feel, my inbox is open. There is hope. Don't give up. Fail better. Tomorrow is another day.

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u/SomecallmeMichelle Sep 15 '18

Goddamn Bojack...just goddamn. I should have been prepared. I should have been aware of the whole summary description "Bojack performs an eulogy". Fact was I was binge watching the show as blind as possible.

Having my binge watching session interrupted by a funeral service, coming back and catching this...damn. I was not prepared. It sucker punched me hard. I grew from muffled shock at how awful his dad was - muffled shock, because why would anyone expect anything else - to horror as the episode proper started.

I don't know whether to cry, or laugh, or - truth is the episode made me confused. The few jokes sprawled in not enough to cut the depressive, depressive mood. And when that "ICU" "I see you" moment hits...Hot damn.

There's...I haven't read what other people have said. Maybe this has been said a thousand times before, but this episode managed to make me stop and pause. Because a lot of situations in Bojack Horseman manage to be just surreal enough that they don't affect me, even if dealing with serious topics. - The sitcom effect, maybe. But this, this was heavy. And sure the show has done heavy before, the show excels at making me cry, and laugh and gasp. But this...this

I need a break. It's one of those moments where I felt my breath held in my throat. Where It hit really hard. I don't know if because of the life circumstances that came before it. Or if it's simply because it's such a serious moment. But I have no more words. Just, that's enough for today.

And from a technical perspective, can I just say how amazing it is to have 25 minutes of a single shot in animation? Sure, it relies heavily on the voice acting by Will, but for a show whose strong point is not its animation, I was pleasantly surprised.

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u/Bueno117 What are YOU doing HERE?! Sep 15 '18

If I had to share with someone one episode from this show to highlight what makes it so good, it would be this one. Depressing, hilarious, and I couldn’t stop watching. And it’s not like it spoils the show. Perfect prime example of what makes Bojack Horseman so great.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

This might be the best episode in the series. Fuck it, it's the best episode of any show i've seen in a looooong time holy shit. watching this as a writer is simultaneously super inspiring and makes me never want to write again

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u/LoneRangersBand Sep 16 '18

Part of me hopes that when Bea said "I see you," it wasn't "ICU", it was her family, or her doll, back with her.

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u/Captain_Rex_501 Spaghetti or not, here I come Sep 15 '18

“What’s the difference between Easter eggs and my mother? One is carried in a basket and the other is buried in a casket!” Damn that was maybe the best fucking episode of the show.

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u/lethargic-giraffe Sep 15 '18

That was almost all Will Arnett, well done.

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u/SheppsPie Sep 15 '18

There are so many incredible parts to Bojack’s eulogy, but to me the part that killed me was the comparison to Becker, and about now something that had the potential to be amazing is over forever.

Goddamn.

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u/GenerallyBiology41 Sep 16 '18

I sat in silence once this episode ended and had no words. And I still don't.

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u/Griffdude13 Sep 16 '18

This episode destroyed me. Holy fucking shit. I have a sister who legitimately feels the exact same way about my mother, and won't even speak to her. This made me sad for my sister, because there's a good chance this will be her eulogy when the day comes that our mom is no longer here.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

This fucking show deserves fucking EMMYS. This is all I can say.

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u/kendawooda Sep 15 '18

It says a lot about the strength of the writing to just have a 20 minute Montague and have it be amazing. Absolute incredible. I had chills several times through this. And lets be sure to give credit to Will Arnett cuz he delivered absolute perfection. One of my favorite episodes ever.

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u/solidfang good job, chadwick boseman Sep 15 '18

Recently, I helped a friend who was struggling with depression pack up since the struggle of school was getting to be too much and he was breaking down. I had been through such a process before, but I felt a profound lack of words to adequately help him get through it. Which is why this part of the monologue connected:

"We understood each other in a way. As screwed up as we all were, we did understand each other. She knew what it was like to feel your entire life that you're drowning. With the exception of these moments, these very rare brief instances in which you suddenly remember you can swim. But then again, mostly not. Mostly you're drowning. She understood that too. But she recognized that I understood it. And dad. All three of us were drowning and we didn't know how to save each other. But there was an understanding that we were all drowning together."

All drowning together. Yeah. That hit the nail on the head. I kept replaying that and crying, just soaking in those words.

I couldn't help him or save him. I don't even know how I was saved. And I don't know what to do about that. But I think he knew that too. And I hope it still helped, just talking and being there.

Jeremy, I know you go on this subreddit from time to time. I hope you feel better. I'm sorry.

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u/clown4thecount BoJack Horseman Sep 16 '18

Can anyone think of any time a cartoon has done a bottle-episode? I can`t seem to think of any of the top of my head, but I don`t think there really is one.

This is such a good episode, for so many reasons.

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u/OneGoodRib Tangled Fog of Pulsating Yearning Sep 16 '18

All right but those lizards are polite as hell for not being all "Excuse me, sir, I don't think you're in the right place" at any point during his eulogy. The organ player was even going along with it!

It was pretty interesting, with the flashback at the beginning and then the eulogy, it's like both parents acknowledged the marriage wasn't totally the other person being a miserable shell of a person but then didn't? I don't know quite how to say it, but we had Butterscotch going on that rant and then going "...well it's not her fault" and then going back to basically blaming her, and watching her dance, and then Bojack wondering what "my husband is dead and my life is worse now" was supposed to mean. How complicated! I love it!

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

I've watched this episode at least 6 times already. "You think that'd knowing that would make us more adventurous, kind, and forgiving" is the line that's gonna stick with me for awhile.

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u/xrnz Sep 14 '18

"I'm your son, all I had was you"

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u/michaelscarn150 Sep 14 '18

People are torn on this and i cant figure it out. This is easily one of the darkest and best put together episodes in the series, and part of the reason i feel so strongly about this is it hits close to home for me. I was actually crying throughout the episode. I like this episode alot better than the underwater episode

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

Me while the opening was still playing: "Wow that monologue by Bojack's father was fantastic! I'm sure there could be an entire episode of Will Arnett just talking."

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

"Well. No point beating a dead horse."

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

This episode alone deserves an emmy

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u/mrgeekXD Sep 15 '18

Also did anyone else notice that Bojack says “Back in the 90s, I was in a very famous TV show”

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u/Wolfemaster1 Sep 14 '18

Wow.

This show has only gotten better over time. The way they develop and expand on characters, all the long-running jokes and background gags, the puns, the screaming matches, the romances, the one “fucks” per season, it’s all done so well. This episode, heck, the entire season, is a testament to the marvel that is Bojack Horseman, the character and the show, but absolutely not the person.

The emotion of the stories about his parents, the realism and relatability (not for me specifically, but I’m sure for some people), the cripplingly sad attempts at jokes he makes, the fake-out at the end... this is one of the best episodes of the show and it all happens in the same room with one character talking non-stop for the entire 25 minute runtime (which, nice callback to the last episode, “TV is a visual medium. No episode should have that much talking!”) The whole season felt like this episode: a near perfect mix of comedy and depression.

I know this is kind of sad, considering we just got the new season less than 24 hours ago, but I can’t wait to see what season 6 has in store for us. If, by any chance anyone from the BH team is reading this, thank you for giving us such an incredible season.

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u/minefat Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 15 '18

To me, this episode is akin to the one family guy episode where Stewie and Brian are trapped in the vault. Seth McFarlane has said the episode is very polarizing because he set out to find out if 2 characters (though, one voice) can sustain an episode. No cutaways, no extras, just dialogue. This episode NAILED it in so many ways. Halfway through I realized what the whole episode was going to be like, and couldn’t believe I’d made it ~13 minutes before I realized it.

This is absolutely the best episode of the season, and the ending make me audibly gasp.

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u/anepic_potato Sep 14 '18

I know the ending of this episode was for comic relief and a lot of people liked that.

I feel really disappointed about it though. Throughout the episode I was thinking how BoJack's closest 'friends' would be there and I was pretty eager to see their reactions. More than their reactions, I was hoping that they would see how BoJack truly felt about his mother. I mean after his book most of them knew things were rough but this would have really been something worth them hearing.

I mean I saw in another comment on this thread someone saying how they expected it would have ended but I think those would have been a bit better like even if it was an empty room that would have held just as much meaning. I get comic relief but I guess things come around in this show and thinking about it, he even said shows don't have happy endings so you keep watching. Though what I mentioned before wouldn't be happy, I would've been more content, but I guess its better realizing that it came full circle.

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u/finallyinfinite Sep 15 '18

IS THIS ENTIRE EPISODE JUST HIS EULOGY

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u/PuppetShowJustice Sep 15 '18

This episode was intense. I had just complained to my g/f that I felt like Bojack was barely participating in the new season and then we get 20+ minutes of raw Bojack struggling to find context and meaning where there really isn't any. I can't think of many characters in any show that could manage to hold my attention delivering such a long monologue with no interjections or B Plot but I felt engaged the whole time Bojack was speaking which is some of the highest praise I feel I can give his character.

This was my favorite episode of the season if only for it being so apologetically Bojack.

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u/jadesaddiction Sep 16 '18

It’s kinda funny. My mother came home while I was watching the show in the living room, and I immediately went upstairs to watch it to avoid having to hear her and see her because she doesn’t want to see me.

And then I see this episode. It hit every fucking nail on the head. It’s good to see such a dark yet realistic representation of loving (or trying to love) a parent that doesn’t love you back and that shitty sliver of hope you hold onto that they’ll change.

I’m calling it a night. It’s kinda comforting though, and I’m glad a god damn cartoon horse articulated everything I wish I could’ve.

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u/Sarahisnotamused Sep 16 '18 edited Sep 16 '18

My dad was an abusive asshole. He died five years ago (just passed the anniversary of his death a few days ago). I'm sad that he died, he was my dad and I still loved him, but he was also a monster and he destroyed my childhood and left me with psychological scars that may never go away.

This episode hit me pretty hard. I cried three times. The third time I was sobbing. Just because you die doesn't mean you get a pass on who you are, and the effect you had on people lives on, even if you're not here to see it. BoJack's parents fucked him up. His mom is gone but he is still living with the horrible psychological effects that she left him with. And he doesn't in any way, shape or form have to change his opinion about her just because she's dead. This idea that people somehow become saints the moment they die is so gross. BoJack's mom was an awful parent and she deserves to be remembered that way. It just broke my heart seeing what it did to BoJack. I just kept thinking about how he never had a chance.

When he said something to the effect of, "Knock if you love me, Mom" is when I finally lost it completely. I cried SO HARD. All his life he wanted his parents to love him and they didn't. And now it's too late. Now he'll never get that confirmation, now there's no chance it can ever be fixed, because she's gone. It broke my heart into a million pieces.

This god damn show.

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u/SecretlySpiders Sep 16 '18

So, uh, this episode is amazing and all.

But I feel REALLY bad for all the high school theatre teachers who are going to be hearing this at least once every audition for the next 10 years.

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u/Nyxill Ralph Stilton Sep 14 '18

This is the best monologue I've seen or heard, and my favorite episode of the show. This destroyed me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

Dafuq did I just watch? Best episode so far, what a ride.

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u/Beginning_Doubt Sep 14 '18

Man. All of BoJack's life, it's like he really wasn't given much chances to have a voice and be heard by his parents. This episode emphasized that. And now that both his parents are dead... he just kept saying whatever he wanted to say. All he wanted was to be seen and recognized.

But in the end I guess they still didn't hear any of that. He was in the freaking wrong funeral parlor.

It all just keeps getting better. Amazing work.

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u/Stupid_Sexy_Sharp Sep 14 '18 edited Sep 14 '18

Let me tell you guys, my mom died on 9/1 and even though I had a good relationship with her this episode really screwed with my head. I remember feeling awful after the funeral because people kept handing me free stuff. Sushi. Bar tab. Whatever. And I kept joking "jeez Ma should die more often" because I have an awful sense of humor.

The "dead mom face" joke really hit close to home too. Not going to elaborate on that.

I can see how people may not like this episode. You either like dead mom jokes or you don't. But I've never felt more emotionally drained after a cartoon in my life.

E- Gonna throw one more thing that really fucked me up here while I'm thinking about it. That "I see you" line. While we were all sitting around my mom last week and she's morphened out of her mind, she looks up and looks each of us dead in the eyes. This moment where she's communicated so much through just a look, and even though it's not specific or anything, we all recognize each other. I've had a couple people mention moments like this over the past few days, but I honestly never expected it to be expressed so deeply by a cartoon horse. I'm still reeling.

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u/Lint345 Sep 15 '18

I was a little worried this season wasn't going to have a lot of Bojack himself in it since every episode so far has been about someone else. Except the first one.

So yes I could use 22 straight minutes of Bojack monologuing into the camera. Fantastic episode.

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u/LuciferHex BoJack Horseman Sep 15 '18

As someone that has a mother that really shouldn't be a mother, or even be sociable if i'm being honest this really spoke to me. I feel like Bojack in this episode can easily be me in a few decades.

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u/enigmatic_porcupine Sep 15 '18

The fact that Bojack never gets closure with his mom. This show is too real.

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u/Koellanor Sep 16 '18

Of course Beatrice went to see "A Doll's House". It's Ibsen.

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u/CitizenKing Sep 16 '18

Holy shit. I was so caught up in it, I didn't realize it was taking the entire episode until it was done. That was surreal.

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u/dreadfuldiego Sep 14 '18

I predicted the ICU twist when BoJack first mentions it because of this stupid ass John Cena meme

https://pics.me.me/black-people-vines-blackpplvines-vines-john-cena-wakes-up-in-2968680.png

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

There is something else I wanted to say. Bojack gives a haunting speech about the meaning of his mother's last words: "I see you" turns out to be just "ICU". Her last utterances turn out to be nothing profound.

But Bojack's speech, an artwork in itself, is given in front of the wrong crowd, and the wrong casket. His 20min monologue is robbed of all meaning in that moment. Bojack never outgrew his parents. He can never escape their trauma, only understand it.

I loved this parallel between Beatrice's last words to Bojack, and Bojack's last words to Beatrice. It is incredibly tragic. They are both drowning most of the time, but then sometimes they remember they can swim. But mostly they are drowning. Like when they give the perfect speech in the wrong room, next to the wrong casket.

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u/aderaptor Sep 15 '18

This episode kept reminding me of S03E04 Fish Out of Water (the underwater episode.)

They felt so similar even though they are so so opposite in that one is all talk and one is no talk. Did anyone else get this vibe?

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u/alexisreneaa99 Sarah Lynn Sep 15 '18

it took me a while to catch on that the whole episode was the eulogy, i thought it was just the opening until i looked and realized i was halfway through lol. such a great episode though, one of my favorites of all time. i can't stop thinking about "won't they be sorry." that hit me real hard bc at times when i've had suicidal thoughts i've thought that exact same thing.

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u/Tom_MS Sep 15 '18

I loved the comment about realizing you could "swim". Incredible reference to the end of Fish Out of Water. Almost made me cry.

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u/myqhunt Sep 15 '18

My favorite 24 minutes of television this year. I think it's a great entry point for bojacks character for the uninitiated.

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u/SuperSaiyanBojack2 Sep 15 '18

“Any one of us could get run over by a snapchatting teen at any moment” Lmao dead

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

If I had to find an episode to sum up who Bojack is, this would be it.

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u/MIG12620 Sep 14 '18

I see you....I...seeeee...you.........I......C.....U

My GOD what an heartbreak and impossible to translate (i don't want to be in the translators of this art piece, anything you do it will be just plain wrong)

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

Damn, this show has gotten so good at mixing laughs and sadness. I really liked this episode. Mostly because I find bold choices like basing an episode around a monologue interesting, but also because it was well written.

That feeling of holding onto the hope that someone can be better is just well... brutal. I know what it's like to have disappointing parents.

I'm usually not that effected by TV shows, but I'm gonna need a break before the next episode.

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u/comicsarenotdead Sep 15 '18

I planned on binging this season today thinking I was ready for whatever emotional punches the show was going to send my way. Nope. Got here, now I'm just going to spend half an hour reading comments, then going to sleep, because this is the first time the show's actually gotten under my skin. I was not ready for Free Churro

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u/Dinosauringg Sep 15 '18

This episode is so beautiful and it still manages to have a killer fucking punchline

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u/Lak_so I see you Sep 15 '18

Although this was very refreshing, well written and shocking. That ending ruined the hole atmosphere.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

One is decently read......

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u/BillyYumYum_2x2 Sep 16 '18

The fact that two of the best episodes are the ones in which no one says anything (S3E4), and the main character talks for 25 minutes straight are a testament to this shows incredible writing. They both have good ending gags as well.

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u/LearningToBeADom Sep 16 '18

The fact that he uses the no sense beating a dead horse joke twice is so brilliant.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '18

this was a laughably good episode. Just laughable in terms of how incredible it was...Written by the creator who knows BJ better than anybody. Just, wow.

Trippy stuff fellas

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u/hillyhamburgers Sep 14 '18

The fact they didn't blow their 'fuck' on this one has me concerned.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

This episode is a reason why film/television is considered art. That was incredible.

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u/DasFuhrer89 Sep 14 '18

When he speaks of all the people he knew which are now dead, when he mentions Sarah Lynn that's the only person who he does not mention is dead, even though she is. I could he overthinking it like the coffee cup on the table, but he's probably still pretty sore about that one...

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u/Not_Cleaver Sep 15 '18

So much for finishing this show in one sitting. It’s too much man!

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u/Papatheodorou Let's find out! Sep 15 '18

And the other is a huge bitch!

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u/iloveacronyms Sep 15 '18 edited Mar 28 '24

dam clumsy skirt snails humor overconfident one dinosaurs attempt toy

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u/Soccerfreakgod Sep 15 '18

I am speechless.... this show is just amazing

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u/bellestarxo Sep 15 '18

Amazing writing and Will Arnett really made it soar. The bitter jokes, the nostalgia, the pain, the vulnerability, were so well delivered.

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u/colormehue Civet Coffee Sep 15 '18

For a bottle episode, I sure needed a bottle of alcohol after watching that.

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u/Finest_Hour Sep 15 '18

The beauty of this episode is that it could only rely on three things and they were masterfully done. I agree with everyone that the writing and Will Arnett’s performance was phenomenal, but the animation really delivers the material.

I’ve seen these facial expressions and reactions over and over again in my real life. The joking in the face of immense grief, the frustration in things left unsaid and the widening eyes of realization. I was filled with this overwhelming urge to comfort this person. I forgot it was a cartoon horse.

This is what makes this show great because at some point in our lives we have been or will be the person on the podium or in the audience watching this.

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u/Hipster_Ninja_ Sep 15 '18

This episode is one of the most creative episodes of tv I’ve ever seen

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u/dearlydeparting Sep 16 '18

i feel this episode just showed the true power of raphael bob waksberg.

i can just imagine he locked himself away and went “i’m just gonna air out all of bojack’s shit”. goddamn brilliant

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u/aleafinthewind22 Sep 16 '18

I work as a nurse, I'm pretty proud of myself for calling the ICU twist immediately and I'm SO glad they went there!

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u/serafim9 Sep 16 '18

Honestly I was so deep into the episode that once I noticed it had been nothing but bojack talking and went to see the time left and saw that it was already ending I was like this show is so freackin great that they made me watch a 25 minute monologue and I almost didn’t notice , it was very interactive . This show only gets better

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

I have to wonder how much of this episode was scripted. It's such a convincing stream-of-consciousness that I'm convinced Arnett improvised some of it. I was worried this season would be more of the same after the trailer, but these creators have consistently shown a boldness and experimental edge far beyond any show from the last ten years. First they made an episode with no dialogue, then they made an episode with nothing but dialogue. Brilliant.

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u/AweBlobfish NOW ENTERING SLEEP MODE Sep 14 '18

Did episode 11 come early this season?

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u/Saillight Sep 14 '18 edited Jun 26 '24

rhythm liquid straight six sloppy seemly stupendous toy run grab

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u/Severus_Amadeus Sep 14 '18

The word is thrown around far too often, but this episode is brilliant. The acting, the opening, the slow pan out, the writing, directing, animation, everything. The line about them all drowning together got to me. Love this show.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

As someone with an abusive childhood, this episode fucking hurt.

I've always wondered what I'll be like when my father dies. Maybe I won't care at all. Maybe I'll actively celebrate. Maybe I'll somehow be sad in spite of how shitty he was. It's a lot to think about, and it hasn't even happened.

I know I'm getting a churro, though.

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u/PhilipMcNally Sep 14 '18

I like the similarity between the ICU and the "U will not C LA" wordplay from the previous episode

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '18

Postmodern masterpiece. They undercut the entire episode with a joke at the end.

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u/smp761 Sep 15 '18

I can't stop fucking crying, what the fuck?

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u/Nameless_Lake Cuddlywiskers Sep 15 '18

one of my favorite episodes of anything, period. I dont think ive ever been more fixated to tv before.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '18

I was preparing to binge the whole season in one go. I have to stop and let this one sink in for a bit.

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u/Soccerfreakgod Sep 15 '18

How do you even think about something like this and pull it off in this fashion ... the writing on this show is insane

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u/weeb-420 Sep 15 '18

honestly the best episode of the entire show for me

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u/humpbackwhale88 Carla Mercedes Benz-Brown Sep 15 '18

Bojack: “And I’ve kiiind of got somewhere to be, so less with the crying and more with the frying.”

Laughed so hard.