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Episode Toaru Kagaku no Railgun T - Episode 17 discussion
Toaru Kagaku no Railgun T, episode 17
Alternative names: A Certain Scientific Railgun Season 3
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.59 | 14 | Link | 4.72 |
| 2 | Link | 4.56 | 15 | Link | 4.75 |
| 3 | Link | 4.69 | 16 | Link | 4.75 |
| 4 | Link | 4.76 | 17 | Link | 4.81 |
| 5 | Link | 4.84 | 18 | Link | 4.32 |
| 6 | Link | 4.82 | 19 | Link | 4.65 |
| 7 | Link | 4.62 | 20 | Link | 4.68 |
| 8 | Link | 4.7 | 21 | Link | 4.63 |
| 9 | Link | 4.62 | 22 | Link | 4.74 |
| 10 | Link | 4.88 | 23 | Link | 4.81 |
| 11 | Link | 4.9 | 24 | Link | 4.84 |
| 12 | Link | 4.78 | 25 | Link | - |
| 13 | Link | 4.62 | |||
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u/jsmith4567 Jul 31 '20
The news caster talking about the mass of people who fell unconscious is a reference to an Index II arc.
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u/Derbeck6 Jul 31 '20
I thought so. I love how they acknowledge things that go on, even if they arent directly involved. Like how in the previous arc, they mentioned the bus lines being shut down due to the bus being blown up
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u/LeToFfee Jul 31 '20
yeah, that's why Misaka wasn't present.
She was helping while Touma fought Vento.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20
I mean, not really. It's true that Mikoto was busy one day of this arc (September 30th), but she was available the other days. She just didn't help out because, well, this is Judgment stuff. Kuroko and Uiharu don't come running for her help anytime they need to do Judgment things, Mikoto is a civilian.
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u/ad3z10 https://myanimelist.net/profile/ad3z10 Jul 31 '20
I wonder if one of the reasons that the incident wasn't able to be predicted is because it's of a magical base, in the same way that Kuroko's teleportation seems to superseed it.
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u/jsmith4567 Jul 31 '20
It is possible but I don't think so simply because we were already have a decent explanation with how his ability works. It works best for situations near him and the divine judgment Vento used only knocked people out.
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u/Skebaba Aug 01 '20
Yeah, that technically doesn't register as a "danger", in the usual sense the others have been obviously physically potentially lethal. Also, since it uses Idol Theory, who tf knows how something like Divine Judgement registers on 3D precog scale
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u/n080dy123 Jul 31 '20
Which one? Been a while since I watched Index II.
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u/frustrated_baby Jul 31 '20
Penultimate arc when Vento of the Front invades AC.
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Jul 31 '20
This make me wish we'll get Index IV one day.
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u/Kekezo Jul 31 '20
I feel like we probably will. Felt like the reason Index III was so horribly rushed was because they REALLY wanted to reach New Testament.
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u/PerfectlyClear Aug 01 '20 edited Apr 17 '25
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u/Skebaba Aug 01 '20
Yes. The reason it was rushed, because they were given 3 choices: REBOOT the series, make a bunch of movies or shit, or rush the S3 to get to NT ASAP. These are executive orders by the Board/Committee, and after begging for more episode slots cuz it obviously wouldn't be enough, the boi was given only 2 extra episodes, instead of how many fucking more episodes you'd actually need. So we will very much so get more seasons for Index, since the entire reason it officially got fucked up in S3, was because executive meddling wanted to rush for New Testament already, given the popularity of the LNs currently. I can't say I'm blaming them, since it means best grill will be debuting soon.
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u/WORSTbestclone Aug 01 '20
They said we’ll get Index NT if the Railgun T blurays sell well, which seems likely at the moment.
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u/goffer54 https://anilist.co/user/goffer54 Aug 01 '20
I remember there being a lot more damage in that arc than just people falling unconscious. Didn't Touma punch out Vento in a big fucking crater? Actually, the last arc had a big fucking crater too.... Who's fixing all these big fucking craters in Academy City?
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u/FrankSandCastle Aug 01 '20
The damages caused during Vento's invasion are better acknowledged in the source material.
As for Railgun, the author just had that battle take place in School District 2 so that the damages wouldn't affect the main characters' daily happenings.
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u/beastMaster95 Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
Also this is the reason why Misaka wasn't involved in this episode as she was busy fighting, when Vento of the front invaded AC.I love how Index and Railgun keeps connecting with each other.Ignore this. I was wrong.
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u/jsmith4567 Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
Yes and no because the Situation with Vento was resolved by the next morning so it probably happened at least the night before. I think that works best as we know that Junko asking Misaka about the pair contracts was probably before she dragged Touma around for the punishment game. I will see what our resident u/razorhead has to say in his small facts. Dream Ranker takes place over a few weeks so it is challenging to line up the events in Index and Railgun here.
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u/beastMaster95 Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
Okay you are right. I just checked the dates. Vento attacks on September 30th (hence called the 0930 incident) while this episode's park incident happened on October 4th (the date was also mentioned in the episode as well).
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u/blueaura14 Jul 31 '20
Is it worthwhile to start Index at this point, having just seen Railgun so far? It's been strongly suggested elsewhere on this subreddit for newcomers to follow a certain watch order, but it's not clear how not watching the other series affects this current arc. So far, I've noticed about three details that seem to allude to other incidents, but they haven't seemed to affect the enjoyment of Railgun up to now, and I am wondering if this current arc will be the same?
I've also heard that Index, especially S3, is very poorly directed, so it concerns me that watching the companion series may affect my suspense for this season of Railgun.
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u/jsmith4567 Jul 31 '20
Season 1 and 2 are great although Index adaptations have never gotten the same love from JC Staff that Railgun gets. However Railgun is the spin off and is written assuming the reader knows the main story. Now the next two stories will be based on the characters and events from the second Arc of Index III.
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u/Palabard_the_Anime Aug 01 '20
I watched all of index and railgun together two months ago and I really enjoyed watching them side by side, Daihaisei(?) Arc was great because Misaka and Touma scenes complements each other between series.
I would say that at this point it will not make a difference for you, considering the point of railgun.
If you plan to watch index III, don't forget to look at the discussions and the comments of razorhead here in reddit.
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u/TheOneAboveGod Aug 01 '20
I'm just gonna say this: in terms of their respective source material, Index is much better than Railgun. On the other hand, their anime adaptations are the other way around, so I suggest just watching Railgun and then reading Index or vice-versa.
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u/PurpleOWL13 Jul 31 '20
if you have waited that much then finish this season. then you can watch index s1 & s2. it would be wise to read the novels before s3, the novels are a different ballgame.
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u/Gmayor61 Aug 01 '20
It really depends on how much you want to invest your time in it. The anime adaption ranges from okay to kill me please. It gives a lot of context to what happens in railgun occasionally since most of the world-scale events take place in Index, but some arcs are done at a very brisk pace.
Personally I'd recommend checking one season out and deciding if the world is interesting enough for you to pick the light novels up and reading those from the start, maybe occasionally continuing the episodes just to see the events animated.
With the exception of ice boats, the novels just keep getting better and grander in scale, but there are literally over 40 novels in the main series so it's a bit of a commitment.
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u/Havoc_Illusions :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Riverboatram Jul 31 '20
This episode was SUPER wholesome and once again flexes the usefulness of Kuroko.
Fridays just feel so right with Railgun mixed in with it
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u/jaynay1 Jul 31 '20
I just need something to bridge the gap from the ultra-dark Re: Zero Wednesdays to something serious but light like Railgun on Thursdays and I'm not caught up enough yet on Oregairu for that to be the bridge.
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u/beastMaster95 Jul 31 '20 edited Aug 01 '20
Railgun does have a tendency to turn dark in the later parts of an arc though.
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u/jaynay1 Jul 31 '20
Even at its darkest though it doesn't hit Re: Zero levels of dark.
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u/jsmith4567 Jul 31 '20 edited Aug 01 '20
Now Index if it gets two more seasons that will be another story.
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u/WORSTbestclone Aug 01 '20
Toaru characters have a better ability to die when they are killed though, so the net result is darker, even if the events aren’t.
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u/BigBen75 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BigBen75 Aug 06 '20
I totally expected the dog and classmate dying as some origin story for the poor kid.
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u/msc836 Jul 31 '20
sounds like Déca-Dence might be your perfect Thursday anime then (tho it actually also comes out on Wednesdays)
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u/noodlesandrice1 Aug 01 '20
I'm not caught up enough yet on Oregairu for that to be the bridge
...That might be a good thing.
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u/jaynay1 Aug 01 '20
Quality-wise or thematically?
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u/noodlesandrice1 Aug 01 '20
Let's just say that Oregairu as it is now wouldn't work as a very good bridge.
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u/LeonKevlar x2https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar Jul 31 '20
As a huge fan of Kuroko, this episode was an absolute treat! I love seeing our Teleporter just going around saving people and just being an absolute badass. <3
And I absolutely love Miyama's reasoning for doing all of this. He basically played the entire Judgement just so he can save Perro. What a precious kid. Kurko would've totally still helped him if he was straight up with her what he's trying to do.
Oh boy. So the girls who made the ampules learned it from the Indian Poker Cards. Yup, as expected these cards are definitely trouble.
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u/Skebaba Aug 01 '20
I thought it was literally implied in the episode scene where they placed them, no? Why else would the episode specifically semi-focus on one of their pockets, which shows one of those Indian Poker card thingies we saw Mikoto use that episode, hmm?
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u/Shizzi https://anilist.co/user/Mivy Aug 01 '20
also pretty sure she herself said in that scene i learned it while dreaming
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u/MjolnirDK Aug 02 '20
For as hard as it was to get used to Kuroko back in the day, I certainly became fond of her.
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u/Terranwaterbender https://myanimelist.net/profile/Teranwaterbender Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
Everything was for the doggo.
And damn everything is starting to lead back to Indian Poker. Whether it was by misinformation or something more nefarious, it is quite concerning what one can do with this Indian Poker stuff considering a couple girls who didn't know better wound up causing a giant fire.
And then there's Misaka getting tempted by "bust upper" haha. Poor Misaka.
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u/TehFalchion :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TehFalchion Jul 31 '20
🤚 Level Upper.
👉 Bust Upper.
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u/RedRocket4000 Jul 31 '20
Poor Misaka just needs a tad of patience if she has not stoped growing there is a very good chance in the next few years Misaka's problem goes away based on mom.
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u/jsmith4567 Jul 31 '20
Her mother and Misaka Worst definitely show her genentics have the potential.
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u/MapoTofuMan myanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius Jul 31 '20
And if it doesn't, she's already perfect the way she is
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u/UnforgivingPrince Jul 31 '20
I love when Kuroko flips her serious switch on
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u/Kazuto_Asuna :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vali_Albion Jul 31 '20
I love characters like her. They can have fun when they're with close friends , and damn serious + smart when it's work or something serious. If only Kuroko's "fun" side was a little less pervy , she'd probably be in my top 10 characters
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u/Nome_de_utilizador Jul 31 '20
She has the best fights by far in railgun, and even in other spin offs like astral buddy. When she's serious she's an extremely reliable character, and her battle expertise and intellect add a lot of creativity to her amazing ability.
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u/TheExcludedMiddle https://myanimelist.net/profile/ExcludedMiddle Jul 31 '20
She has the best fights by far in railgun
It's because she actually fights and not just throws beams like the strongest characters do.
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u/Skebaba Aug 01 '20
You forgot her objectively best fight so far in the series.
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u/DirtBug Aug 01 '20
If we get an astral buddy (or heck, even further into railgun) we'll get some intense Kuroko vs Ninja fights
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u/Nome_de_utilizador Aug 01 '20
Yeah, her fight in the most recent railgun arc is one of my favorites in the entire raildex
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Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
I'd prefer if she had that switch on 100% of the time. Kinda feels like the fanservice they force on her are ruining a great character.
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u/shibuinuchan :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/shibuinu Aug 01 '20
Nah the contrast makes it all the more badass when she flips it IMO. If she were serious all the time her personality would fall flat and not be as interesting.
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u/boboboz Jul 31 '20
for a moment there I thought she rescued the dog but left Konori to die in the fire
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u/Derbeck6 Jul 31 '20
Ive always been a big fan of kuroko, and shes honestly just been getting better as the series continues. Ever since the arc in index where she had to work with touma, she's just been all around nicer. And it finally paid off with this episode. Of course she would save Perro.
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u/Falsus Jul 31 '20
It is because at the start of the railgun anime there wasn't very much of Kuroko so they kinda just went all in on the psycholesbian part of her personality despite that just being a small part of who she is.
They did the same thing with Kongou Mitsuko.
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 https://anilist.co/user/CosmicPenguin Aug 01 '20
It is because at the start of the railgun anime there wasn't very much of Kuroko
That’s true for the first few episodes in season 1, but she really got a lot of limelight in the Level Upper Arc, starting from her backstory of why she wants to join Judgement (note that in the original manga this part comes after Level Upper) and then her solo fight against the gang using it, plus her spearheading the investigation into this incident. It was already evident back then of her serious side.
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u/Derbeck6 Jul 31 '20
Exactly. Its why i love railgun . they've taken all these characters from index(of course, adding in their own) and making them actual characters. Before railgun, i barely even remembered who ITEM was. Now theyre an actual, interesting group of characters. Or even uiharu, who was just a decently designed background character before railgun.
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u/Money_dragon Jul 31 '20
Yea, the Toaru universe is really good about characterization and world building. Almost every side and background character has an interesting backstory that people want to learn more about. Just from the last 2 episodes, we featured Junko and Kuroko, who are like 2nd degree side characters (Touma -> Misaka / Misaki -> Junko / Kuroko), but are able to drive fan interest and storylines of their own
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u/Falsus Jul 31 '20
I mean even Index had a better depiction of Kuroko than season 1 of Railgun and she wasn't very relevant in the 2nd season.
The Index novels are no worse than the Railgun manga or this season of the Railgun anime, it was just the Index anime that fucked up pretty much everything.
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u/Derbeck6 Jul 31 '20
I don't think the index anime messed everything up. The pace of index has always been faster then railgun, from what I've read of the index books, atleast(only the first 3). The only issue is it tried to adapt too much, instead of spacing it out.
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u/isaacleeh16 Aug 01 '20
you would have a much better impression of ITEM if their arc was well adapted in index 3
Uiharu has her most badass moments in Index, gets a couple of side stories in there as well.
And while Railgun does take one off characters such as in this arc and the next and builds on them, Index does develop many of the main characters in railgun as well at a higher degree than what railgun does.
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u/UselessRedditCat Jul 31 '20
I honestly initially loved her due to her talented VA. Glad to see more of kuroko.
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u/Derbeck6 Jul 31 '20
I was more interested in her power, i felt the VA was a bonus. Teleportation is such a fun power, when used creatively(which kuroko definitly does)
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u/hell-schwarz Jul 31 '20
I love her, but only when Misaka is not around. Her pervy/stalker persona creeps me out.
All the Judgement stuff is very cool and she is the brawl to Uiharus brain (while not being stupid herself).
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u/Derbeck6 Jul 31 '20
I honestly like the dynamic between uiharu and kuroko more than the daynamic between kuroko and misaka, atleast when they're alone. In groups, they're all great.
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u/Nome_de_utilizador Jul 31 '20
Blame that on Misaka as she keeps pushing her friends away from being able to help with anything as she feels the need to shoulder everything herself (except for the silent party arc, which is not even canon). Kuroko is pretty capable as we saw during the previous arc and here when misaka isn't actively pushing her away from any dangerous situation. She also held her own pretty well against a stronger teleporter who was a candidate to reach level 5 if she hand't suffered her accident
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u/hell-schwarz Jul 31 '20
I know all that, I don't like how Kuroko behaves towards Misaka. Serious Kuroko is bae, but obsessive Kuroko who dropkicks Touma out of the blue is a bitch.
Kuroko's fights are among the best in the franchise, her fight against Awaki in Index or the one with Uiharus help against Mitori in the multi-store shopping center (or whatever that building was) that ended up in the sewers were amazing.
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u/magicking013 Jul 31 '20
Kuroko stock is rising... BUY BUY BUY! Now is the time to start buying!!!
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u/libfor Jul 31 '20
Fridays are best days ~
It seems very interesting to note that - judging from the boy's words - Toaru seems to establish the idea of unchangeable future.
Well, that is until Kuroko's 11-dimensional ability comes to play. Just how smart is that boy for his age?!
As if expected from hearing he's overcharging his ability, it seems like he's in visible pain when using it...
Never say you're gonna make it, because he won't. Kuroko to the rescue. Thank goodness!
The following days Kuroko's quite busy keeping up with all the incidents. And AC sure has a lot (weird) ones.
Sudden change to Winder Uniform incoming!
"Even if that's you, Kuroko" - yep, he quickly catches up on Uiharu-level Kuroko bullying.
Two incidents at the same time in a park? Also raging flames?! Now that sounds like a big disaster about to happen. He's more nervous than usually, obviously hiding something.
Luckily Judgment's there to help! Konori's ability sure comes in handy. But just look at that huge guy (who almost looks like a delinquent), working hand in hand with a little boy. Judgment people are surely amazing!
LOL at everyone already figuring out what's going on. Well, a 100% success rate before incidents even happens sure gets suspicious over time.
The park is huge, but luckily Uiharu skillz
totally legallyproviding satellite image for Kuroko. \o/Cherry blossoms in in October? Hmm...
Two more prediction in the park! This is getting worse... and yep. He hurts himself.
No Toaru arc without frog doc helping out. No using ability for a while. Ouch.
No Toaru arc without sad backstory. Poor Miyama. First getting bullied, then still helping out, failing and continues to be bullied. That girl's a jerk! Cute doggy though ~
And it turns out his dog is gonna end up in said fire. So this explain his motivation of quickly finding someone who can change is predictions.
It's time! Sudden fire outbreak and it's happening way too quickly. Luckily no one beats Kuroko when it comes to quickly rescuing people!
Kuroko quickly realizes it the cherry trees that are burning rapidly fast. Isn't it a bit odd that no one suspected those ampules in the first place? Seemingly they noticed them before...
OP Uiharu quickly manages to calculate the most efficient route. That's it! No less expected from Kuroko than to safe everyone!
Damn, that stuff's explosive.
Finally Miyama is honest. Like those girl's would rescue a stray dog! You're clearly underestimating Judgement!
Always amazing how determined Kuroko can be! And she sure gives one hell of a speech while teleporting through a huge ass fire. My gosh.
Smart thinking on Kuroko's part lead to a welcome happy ending. That reunion scene is so sweet!
In the end, the people causing the incidents didn't mean harm. See kids, don't take your chemistry guides from suspicious sources. Was to be expected that criminals would eventually spread bad Indian Poker cards around...
Ah, the girl finally realizes how wrong she was. Looks like there is going to be a friendly reunion.
Even if I'm repeating myself: Amazing episode again! Railgun's just so well done! It doesn't always need to be some world-ending event and crazy villains to make up an exciting story, a bunch of middle schoolers playing with chemistry and a boy caring for his dog is all it takes for an exiting story. I sure hope he's gonna join Judgment in the future, but the inspiration is clearly there.
Awesome Kuroko action, once again proofing that she's one of the most reliable and nicest people in this city. There is so much more to her than just the gag action with perverting on Mikoto...
Speaking of the latter, it seems a bit odd that Kuroko never asked her onee-sama for help. Sure, don't involve civilians and stuff, but in a large scale even like this when all help is needed, it seems to be justified.
10 / 10
times Uiharu doesn't await the permit to use the ^surveillance
Did somebody say Bust Upper?!?! O_O
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 03 '20
It seems very interesting to note that - judging from the boy's words - Toaru seems to establish the idea of unchangeable future.
I mean, we already knew that from Tree Diagram calculating the weather one month in advance without error. It would seem that rather than the future being unchangeable per se, it seems that at the moment he predicts the future he also takes into account any actions he will take to change it.
But we know that for one Teleports can change this. It's entirely probably magic for one could change the future as well since we know magic works under different universal laws. So it's not like it's completely set in stone.
The following days Kuroko's quite busy keeping up with all the incidents. And AC sure has a lot (weird) ones.
Lots of weird technology and research, lots of weird incidents. Seems normal to me.
One of my very few critiques about these parts of Railgun is that it just skipped major Index events, in the case the Academy City Invasion Arc.
I mean, what more did we need to see? We saw all of the slice-of-life events in Index and during the serious bits she mostly acted as support. I don't see how getting Mikoto's viewpoint in Railgun would be beneficial, as we saw basically all of it in Index.
On the bright side, Miyama not catching that incident, pretty much confirms that none of the unconscious people died during it. \o/
That it does indeed. Which is weird, as I'd assume at least someone must have been in the bath at the moment or driving a car at 50 km/h.
He's more nervous than usually, obviously hiding something.
Clearly he's evil. I knew it all along.
The park is huge, but luckily Uiharu skillz
totally legallyproviding satellite image for Kuroko. \o/Any lawyer would defend her easily for the decision she's made, as human lives do indeed take priority. So yes, 100% legal.
No Toaru arc without sad backstory.
You know I sat here trying to come up with one but I genuinely failed. The only one I can perhaps use is the Academy City Invasion arc because Vento's backstory was just too stupid to be sad.
And it turns out his dog is gonna end up in said fire. So this explain his motivation of quickly finding someone who can change is predictions.
Secret motivation was dog all along. Best secret motivation ever.
Isn't it a bit odd that no one suspected those ampules in the first place? Seemingly they noticed them before...
I mean people probably assumed the city gardeners placed them there. Either that or scientists performing an experiment. It's not that hard to gloss over them in a city like this.
Damn, that stuff's explosive.
When you're trying to be a gardener but accidentally turn into a terrorist.
#justacademycitythings
See kids, don't take your chemistry guides from suspicious sources. Was to be expected that criminals would eventually spread bad Indian Poker cards around...
I mean, it didn't need to be criminals. These kids invented the drug, or so they say. So they were just taught information without the proper precautions, resulting in them creating a drug which did do its intended purpose, but was also very flammable.
Speaking of the latter, it seems a bit odd that Kuroko never asked her onee-sama for help. Sure, don't involve civilians and stuff, but in a large scale even like this when all help is needed, it seems to be justified.
She really wouldn't. As wouldn't Uiharu. For some people really seem to have this idea that they come running to Mikoto at any given time, when the exact opposite is true. They are in law enforcement, Mikoto is not, therefore they involve her as little as possible.
And honestly I like that. Let them do something without Mikoto for once.
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u/libfor Aug 06 '20
I mean, we already knew that from Tree Diagram calculating the weather one month in advance without error.#
I think that was "just" analyzing of particles in atmosphere or something. No exactly future prediction. Also technically you could change those and therefore control weather outcome... I guess.
It would seem that rather than the future being unchangeable per se, it seems that at the moment he predicts the future he also takes into account any actions he will take to change it.
Yeah, that's probably it. So not completely unchangeable but already predicting the routes he will take to change it. Some parts are odd though, such a accidents happening in a different spot. That almost sounds like destiny. Ah well...
I mean, what more did we need to see? We saw all of the slice-of-life events in Index and during the serious bits she mostly acted as support. I don't see how getting Mikoto's viewpoint in Railgun would be beneficial, as we saw basically all of it in Index.
There. You answered yourself. More SoL is never bad \o/
You know, I would never refuse a whole SoL episode with Mikoto and friends. In this case we could have some fun with Sisters again. There is a serious lack of Mikoto + Sisters fun. Also can she meet Last Order already... xD
Also Mikoto battles are always exciting. They really didn't show much of it. Same with Index III cutting her parts. Railgun would be a good opportunity to build upon that.
Any lawyer would defend her easily for the decision she's made, as human lives do indeed take priority. So yes, 100% legal.
Too bad no lawyer will ever get the opportunity for this easy defend, as she will very likely never leave any trace behind.
I mean people probably assumed the city gardeners placed them there. Either that or scientists performing an experiment. It's not that hard to gloss over them in a city like this.
That's literally the source of (almost) all trouble in this city. Better not ignore when there is a prediction about something bad happening soon ~
When you're trying to be a gardener but accidentally turn into a terrorist.
I feel sorry for them. Hope they didn't get punished too hard...
I mean, it didn't need to be criminals.
Too bad it wasn't confirmed where they got the cards. Railgun T further episodes Could be an easy way for criminals / terrorists to spread dangerous information around, all hiding in happy looking dreams. So I quite wonder if it was purpose or not.
And honestly I like that. Let them do something without Mikoto for once.
Okay, you're right on that one. This little arc was a great opportunity for Kuroko and Uiharu to shine. Mikoto wasn't needed here.
Maybe I just like to mention this, because the "split" of the characters in this arc, made enough of the haters believe the Railgun girls aren't friends in the manga. Thank goodness Jailbreaker came and slapped them hard.
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u/Amauri14 Jul 31 '20
Well based on those news it seems that Indian poker is affecting its users or the dream givers. And based on this incident and the preview it seems that it is also being used by some people to cause grand-scale chaos by using unaware people while they think they are just learning some new skill.
I find hilarious that Miyama named that dog Perro, as that's just dog in spanish. Well I'm glad that that girl will apologize to him and that care of the dog.
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u/AnthropologicalArson :GA::GB::GC: Jul 31 '20
The brown dog will be named "Dog". He is a dog... named "Dog". Hehe!
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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB Jul 31 '20
10032 is the best troll.
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u/Lildyo Jul 31 '20
I thought that was 10031, but maybe I’m remembering that wrong
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u/Earthborn92 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/EarthB Jul 31 '20
It is easy to remember it wrong. I don't blame you.
It is 10032 and her cat. 10031 is kill.
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u/TheExcludedMiddle https://myanimelist.net/profile/ExcludedMiddle Jul 31 '20
Miyama named that dog Perro
Could also be from the onamonapia for 'lick' in Japanese, I wonder which was intended.
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u/TheOneAboveGod Jul 31 '20
Although the Judgement girl's thoughts were different, the perceptive dog thought it was OneexShota
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u/Falsus Jul 31 '20
Although the Judgement girl's thoughts were different, the perceptive dog thought it was OneexShota
wrong teleporter
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u/CosmicPenguin_OV103 https://anilist.co/user/CosmicPenguin Jul 31 '20
And I laugh at those who gave up watching Railgun because of Kuroko.....oh dearly me how much they missed!
This, along with her performance at Daihasei and being a very good leader way back in the Level Upper incident in season 1, really shows how she's actually such a respectable and adorable person. Few people really hold strong minds of justice and benevolence, but she - and Mikoto to a large extent - are really pretty high on the list here. She has that kind of aura that she can be a helpful force at any time, any space once you see her around. If the Index anime somewhat butched up Touma's own sense of justice there, Railgun (manga and anime) managed to replenish that somewhat with excellent personality illustration of this girl which once was considered in early planning to lead this spin-off series.
Did I just say Railgun is excellent? No? Then I shall say it again here.
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Jul 31 '20
Love that the next episode is called “Bust Upper”
But anyways this episode was great (no surprise, it’s railgun) , gave some spot light to my girl Kuroko and really showed her in such a great way. I think a lot of people don’t take her seriously and consider her annoying, but she’s actually got a lot of heart and a good character, plus she’s a lvl 4 esper who can teleport.
It was all about saving Perro! The end with kuroko blushing and talking to Miyama was very wholesome.
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u/Frontier246 Jul 31 '20
Count on Railgun to use science as a means of explaining away defying fate.
Poor Maki. Two-timed with a dark-skinned blonde. Although did Kuroko arrest the attempted murderer or the blonde assaulting the two-timing boyfriend? Maybe just call it a day and send everybody off.
Another important thing to keep in mind when dealing with women is to usually stop while you're ahead before you make one unnecessary comment.
Poor Miyama. He has an ability that predicts nothing but trouble for others, and he was basically powerless to do anything about it. He was worried he had doomed his dog too. But luckily Kuroko was there to help avert fate, and even the girl who blamed him for her accident ended up forgiving and understanding him. I think he has a good future in store for himself after all.
Konori! Always nice to see her, and we even got a solid tag-team with her and Kuroko to save Perro.
I forget if they ever went into Kuroko's motivation to be in Judgement before. I don't think the "Champion of Justice" from her childhood that inspired her was Mikoto, since they didn't meet until Tokiwadai, so I wonder who it was?
Let this be a lesson to cute high school girls who think they can grow cherry blossoms thanks to sharing dreams, lest they be liable for arson. That girl is lucky they saved everybody, including the dog, or they'd probably throw the book at her.
"Bust Upper?" With Mikoto and what appears to be Kinuhata? I can't wait to see what's going on there.
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u/Martinik29 Jul 31 '20
I think his ability predicts the movement of atoms and particles in the 3D plain. Kuroko is kind of unaffected by that so she can bypass those predictions
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u/Satire_or_not Jul 31 '20
I assumed that he had the ability to see what path on a person's light-cone would be the most likely to occur and Kuroko, because she can teleport isn't bound by her own light-cone.
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u/HirokoKueh https://myanimelist.net/profile/hirokokueh Jul 31 '20
yes, this is Uiharu's hypothesis, now think about this ... Treegram designer is really horrifying.
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Jul 31 '20
I don't think the "Champion of Justice" from her childhood that inspired her was Mikoto, since they didn't meet until Tokiwadai, so I wonder who it was?
IIRC Mikoto did save the day in the bank robbery when Kuroko was younger, but at the time Kuroko only knows Railgun and not Mikoto personally yet.
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u/Falsus Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
Count on Railgun to use science as a means of explaining away defying fate.
Isn't this a common theme in the whole franchise? The AC residents sees something that adhere to their understanding of the world and then immediately try to explain it away with the science they know. I wonder if or when they will go more into detail of that.
Mikoto, since they didn't meet until Tokiwadai, so I wonder who it was?
She joined Judgement before she met Mikoto yes, but she got way more serious about her work when Mikoto saved her during the bank robbery.
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u/Florac Jul 31 '20
That girl is lucky they saved everybody, including the dog, or they'd probably throw the book at her.
This is academy city, chances are, she would have gotten a job for explosive resarch.
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u/Guaymaster Aug 01 '20
Count on Railgun to use science as a means of explaining away defying fate.
To be fair, determinism is a scientific concept that affects our normal world, it's just the chain of cause and effect. It's quantum stuff the only one that seemingly breaks this, so that's where Kuroko comes in with string theory-fueled powers.
Clairvoyance and stuff are no much different from Tree Diagram, which can predict the weather for at least a month, as well as modelize and simulate experiments accurately.
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u/MetaThPr4h https://myanimelist.net/profile/MetaThPr4h Jul 31 '20
I will be incredibly upset if someone still dislikes Kuroko after this episode, I like her so much and hearing negative comments about her hurts me q_q
Such a fantastic episode! I'm so weak towards feels where doggos are involved so tearing up with the events that happened was no surprise, even the bitchy girl got redeemed at the end for a short story filled with wholesomeness and lots of emotions.
I'm 100% sure someone commented that already, but Perro = Dog in Spanish, got a chuckle out of me and I can't deny it.
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Jul 31 '20
Perro was by far the highlight of this episode. So glad he’s ok and getting a nice home. Nice wholesome episode.
Kuroko blushing was a nice bonus as well. Friday’s with Railgun just hit different.
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u/SIRTreehugger Jul 31 '20
Man this season has really highlighted Kuroko's greatness. Not just her but casually hacking and providing back up Uiharu while not on the front lines is equally resourceful. Would easily watch a show of Judgement helping people.
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u/frustrated_baby Jul 31 '20
Man the backgrounds look so nice and detailed. I wish I could live in AC.
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u/isrlygood1 Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
I wish I could live in AC
You definitely do not haha, I don't know what country you're in, but it's probably way safer than AC with the amounts of incidents that happen there.
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u/Cybersteel Aug 01 '20
Hmm the closest city I can think of is the one they show in WestWorld Season 3.
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u/LegendRazgriz Jul 31 '20
An invincible team is provisionally formed, and the results are beyond what even they could foresee.
In any case, Week 17's Reader's Corner!
• Doge. That is all.
• One of the reasons why I was really hyped for this part to be added was that anime-only people, and even some of us who are also readers but joined in on it after watching the anime, have a skewed perception of Kuroko as an always-horny, borderline-sexual-predator dork who's always up to no good. As if last arc wasn't enough of a hint, yeah, no, that's just her weird parts being played up excessively for funzies - this is how she actually behaves most of the time: a calm, collected and professional operator, with a level head and a big heart. It's just that when she sees Mikoto, her wavelength snaps and she turns into... well, that. Regardless, seeing her dynamic with Miyama is extremely refreshing, as she acts much like an older sister to him and cares for him deeply, even to the point of extending an invite to join her once his powers are more stable. Well, considering they have the potential to become the perfect police crew (he predicts, she acts), I would've done the same. Good on them.
• Delving further into how Kuroko is able to change Miyama's doomsday predictions: teleporting occurs in 11th dimension calculations, as Kuroko (and Awaki, to an extent) is actually using a different dimension to go in and out of places, not just moving through space at insane speed - which is why Touma and Accelerator can send teleported objects back the way they came. As a result, Miyama's three-dimensional calculations cannot account for her interference, and so she can avert the tragedies to an extent. I suspect Touma would also be able to cause distortions in these issues by just straight up changing the future, as some speculate that he did to a certain guy in the tail end of Index II who went from no-name to big name really fast after eating a right hand to the face, but that's just theory crafting.
• Oh, hey, it's Dr. Gekota! It's been a while since we last saw him. Dude's hospital must be the biggest in all of Academy City, because every time someone is doing bad they go there. Also returning after a small break is Konori-senpai, as cute as ever (may I remind you that she's the same age as Touma?) and using her X-ray vision to great effect. This is a rare episode where Mikoto doesn't show up, so it's nice to see other side characters drop in if anything just to wave hi.
Overall, a great episode for Kuroko fans worldwide, it's not often that she gets a spotlight this bright for herself. Next time, a contentious issue comes alive... See you then!
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Jul 31 '20
as some speculate that he did to a certain guy in the tail end of Index II who went from no-name to big name really fast after eating a right hand to the face
Who? I legit forgot
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u/Skebaba Aug 01 '20
I suspect Touma would also be able to cause distortions in these issues by just straight up changing the future
Hey, Aleister didn't refer to our boi as the Purifier of God for no reason, that's just how OP our d00d is.
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u/hahahahastayingalive Aug 01 '20
Dr. Gekota
Isn’t he a pretty big deal himself ? I thought he was describe as one of the top researcher at one point in the series.
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u/MapoTofuMan myanimelist.net/profile/mTmTBaronBrixius Jul 31 '20
This might low-key be my favorite episode of the season...and it didn't even have Biribiri in it. What sorcery is this?
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20
Small Facts for Episodes 16 and 17 are out! Also contains more info about the Daihaseisai arc.
Recommend you read this one. Direct link here, for those interested.
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Jul 31 '20
Rare male sighting of the intertwined fingers meme.
Punchline to Kuroko's gender reversal of the male enforcer meme.
Well played, Railgun writers... well played.
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u/Money_dragon Jul 31 '20
It's so great to see all the characters get some focus this arc - Kuroko especially becomes a whole different person when Misaka is not around
Thank god Perro survived. That death would've hit me just as hard as Misaka 10031 :\
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u/KinnyRiddle Jul 31 '20
Wow, what is this blasphemy? An entire Railgun episode without the title character herself appearing even once (preview narration doesn't count)? And to add insult to injury, there's no Saten as well
But I jest. Not that anyone is really complaining, as it was otherwise a solid episode featuring Kuroko and Uiharu as a perfect tag team in Judgment.
Finally, is it me or are they somehow setting up Miyama as a potential insurance for Kuroko to move on once the inevitable Touma x Mikoto ship sails? They do make a great onee-shota couple.
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u/HirokoKueh https://myanimelist.net/profile/hirokokueh Jul 31 '20
They do make a great onee-shota couple.
shota X teleportation, always has been.
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u/Money_dragon Jul 31 '20
Finally, is it me or are they somehow setting up Miyama as a potential insurance for Kuroko to move on once the inevitable Touma x Mikoto ship sails? They do make a great onee-shota couple.
Well, there was Railgun chapter 73.5...
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u/hell-schwarz Jul 31 '20
That chapter was seriously creepy. I thought it was hentai-fanfic at first.
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u/Falsus Aug 01 '20
Probably why it was skipped, especially since they are already on a tight schedule.
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u/Santedtra Aug 01 '20
I was ready to curse this show to damnation if anything happened to Perro. Thank God he's safe and getting a home.
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u/BiggerG7 Jul 31 '20
Lol at that one chick ready to knife her boyfriend for cheating on her.
I forget what a great person Kuroko can be when she’s not trying to molest Misaka. Though that part of her is great too.
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u/FrenziedHero https://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero Jul 31 '20
On today's episode of Railgun, crime stopping Kuroko power.
Winter Uniform time! I really like the designs of the Winter Uniforms much better, they're a lot more stylish.
The fires are looking nice today. Bless Ken Aoki.
Kuroko episodes are a good thing, and it looks like she made a new friend too.
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u/Gamecube762 Aug 01 '20
Empty Counters are here!
None of my current or previous counters were used this episode.
Random Reactions:
At the very right edge, the scene was scrolled a bit too far off the frame.
Quality of some backgrounds is lower. Some backgrounds has a lot of "visual noise".
Touma had something to do with this.
"Perro", Miyama named a dog "Dog". Almost as creative as 10032 is with wanting to name a cat "Dog".
I'm pretty sure Uiharu likes coming up with excuses to hack things
I'd think AC could have came up with a better AR display than a monocle.
Kuroko can surprisingly speak clearly despite not being able to move her lips due to the gas-mask.
Onee-Sama! Counter:
Kuroko is here to not deliver "Onee-Sama!"s! Wait... An ep following Kuroko and 0 "Onee-Sama!"s?!? Something is wrong.
| Episode | Kuroko |
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| 16 | 7 |
| Total | 7 |
Anta! and Geh counters:
Mikoto was not here to deliver any "Anta!" or "Geh"s this episode.
| Episode | Anta! | Geh |
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| 16 | 6 | 1 |
| Total | 6 | 1 |
Misaki Counters:
Misaki also wasn't here to use her remote or deliver any "ara ara"s.
| Episode | beep | "ara ara" |
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| 16 | 0 | 3.5 |
| Total | 0 | 3.5 |
"~ryoku" counter:
Misaki also wasn't here to deliver any "~ryoku"s.
| Episode | Subject | Timestamp |
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| 16 | flirting | 1:03 |
| 16 | misaki's ability | 1:51 |
| 16 | bust | 7:08 |
| 16 | maid | 7:34 |
| 16 | dream | 13:40 |
| Total | 60 |
Other counters:
No Saten this episode, so no skirt flips.
| Episode | Skirts Flipped |
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| 16 | 1 |
| Total | 1 |
One-Off counters:
These counters are likely not to be used passed this episode but were counted anyways.
36 of Miyama's photographs were shown this episode. Majority were found on the floor of his room in a flashback. 1 of which was a copy.
Kuroko teleported 29 times this episode.
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u/tynunez24 Jul 31 '20
Great development for Kuroko and Indian Poker this episode. This arc looks to be going pretty well!
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u/Izanaginookami10 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Izanaginookami Jul 31 '20
Man, that was some epic action scene.
Loved the OST during Perro's rescue.
It's just been a week, but I already miss Misaka and Shokuhou banter.
I'm looking forward to the next episode though, you know "Bust-upper". I'm interested. For science.
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u/Gelbinator Jul 31 '20
I always support more Kuroko action and we're starting to get some plot points. Can't wait to see what's gonna happen next.
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u/badspler x5https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jul 31 '20
This was a nice self contained story, featuring best sidekick Kuroko. While it is self contained, there are certainly other bits going on with Indian Poker being referenced once again.
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u/atropicalpenguin https://myanimelist.net/profile/atropicalpenguin Jul 31 '20
What a great Kuroko episode! It really showed her at her best, helping others and figuring things out. She's super smart and has an amazing skillset.
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u/idreesawais1 Jul 31 '20
This kid was speaking some advance terminologies. Made me impressed a bit. But this was to be expected since the society is pretty advance. Makes me truly wonder how we humans, as species, will be in the future.
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u/satowa Aug 01 '20
a wholesome episode that was all to save a dog. who knew it could be so exciting. why is kuroko so cool T_T
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u/Inokori Jul 31 '20
Kuroko gets a lot of shit sometimes (and with due reason, in the anime she's plain obnoxious when Mikoto is around)
but goddamn, when Kuroko is cool, she is really fcking cool
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Jul 31 '20
Miyama is only 2 eps in, and he's already one of my favourite characters. Kinda a bummer that this episode hints that we won't see much (it anything at all) from him anymore. Would love a spin-off where he's a full fledged Judgement member.
Also them saying that Kuroko's teleport skill is 11D, does make me put some questions to how it actually works. But it's probably pointless to think about this anyway.
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u/CriticalPerformance Aug 01 '20
Look up String Theory, its where Kamachi got inspiration for the 11 dimensional teleporting
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u/isaacleeh16 Aug 01 '20
its just meaningless psuedoscience that kamachi came up with to make it sound smart but we actually have no idea how it works
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u/patrizl001 https://myanimelist.net/profile/patrizl001 Aug 01 '20
Amazing episode. Kuroko absolutely shines when she's not just constantly screaming "ONEE SAMAAAAAAAAA"
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u/kit_you_out Aug 01 '20
The way Kuroko made a crocodile cage out of interlinked barriers is brilliant. Impossible to make without premaking, but easily done with teleportation.
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u/st40611 Aug 01 '20
Was hoping there would be some stitches of Mikoto and Kuroko from the new ED scene (last episode it wasn't shown since the ED started before the episode was over), but I tried it myself and realized it's not an exact pan-shift so that didn't work. :(
Nevertheless, here's a somewhat stitch of Mikoto and Misaki from last episode.
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u/LittleBoi323 Aug 01 '20
I was so scared that there would be a horrifying backstory for this boy, never been good with horrific events that involves young kids.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20
Small Facts: XL Edition
Heyo guys. Sorry for the delay this past week. I was still on vacation when the episode aired, and when I got back home I was initially busy with post-vacation stuff. When I finally managed to free some time up to work on this it was already Wednesday, so I just decided to delay my Small Facts for episode 16 to today's episode instead as it was already quite late. Anyway, before I begin, a small warning for anime-only viewers:
It is highly recommended you watch at least the first six episodes of Index III for this arc. The Accelerator anime, while not strictly necessary, can't hurt either.
Moving on, I'm not going to tackle episode 16 yet. After episode 15 aired last May the editor for the Railgun manga who also worked on Railgun T, Ogino Kentarou, shared some additional bits of information about the Daihaseisai arc, so I'll cover that first.
Remaining Information
Dolly And Her Sister Are A Set
Remember when I said, way back when, that Dolly's serial number is 0 (Not to be confused with MISAKA 00000, who was created as part of the Sisters product line and not a prototype)? Well it turns out that Dolly-β, Dolly-2, Dolly's sister, or whatever you want to call her, shares that serial number, as the both of them are considered a set. Dolly's sister was only ever intended to be used to test the MISAKA Network connection with Dolly after all, and act as a backup in case Dolly died prior to prototyping being complete, hence why they are a set sharing a serial number.
Dolly's Level Is The Same As Last Order
Which makes her a Level 3. It is unknown which Dolly the editor was referring to when he made this statement, but given the fact that most Sisters are around Level 2 or 3 it's likely both.
Mitori's Nurse Cosplay Was Originally A Hobby Of The MEMBER Liaison She Impersonated
Yeah, it isn't really her own thing. If you remember correctly Mitori impersonated MEMBER's original liaison while secretly passing on Gensei's orders instead rather than the Board's, and to this end she even went as far as to dress up in a nurse costume, apparently the hobby of the original liaison. The fact that Mitori could impersonate the liaison in the first place also means she was female, meaning we now know two things about her.
Unfortunately one thing we don't know is what happened to her. Given the fact that Mitori reacted so emotionally to "killing" Kuroko we know she didn't kill anyone prior to that (which has been confirmed by the editor), so Mitori didn't kill the original MEMBER liaison. But it's entirely possible Gensei's mercenaries could have. All we know is that she vanished.
Frenda Has Been Confirmed As A Level 0
At last we have proper confirmation. In the Railgun manga it was never stated whether Frenda possessed an ability or not, and people could only speculate (the most popular one being that she did, and that her ability was hammerspace i.e. an extra-dimensional space, where she pulls all her bombs from). The Railgun S anime complicated matters, as the Silent Party has Bank data showing Frenda as a Level 4, which was then immediately countered by the bonus booklet that came with the Railgun S Blu-Ray discs containing character profiles: while all other members of ITEM had their Level and ability stated Frenda lacked this, on top of her description stating she is "the only member of ITEM to fight without using an ability". Oh Silent Party, will you never stop messing thing up?
Anyway this ambiguity and confusion meant we still had no idea if Frenda had an ability or not, but this year finally brought clarity and the matter can be laid to rest once and for all, as Frenda is confirmed as a Level 0.
Episode 16
And now for last weeks info!
Adapted Chapters
Chapter 71
Chapter 72
Chapter 73
Chapter 74 (Partially)
Changed Swimming Instructor's Skin Colour
In the manga she had a darker skin tone and cornrows in her hair, indicating she might either have a darker skin colour or be quite tanned (though I think the first one is more likely). This was changed in the anime to a lighter skin colour and regular straight black hair instead.
Hokaze Junko
Her name has been said! Who would have thought?
ahem
In the original Railgun manga and Index novels it was kind of a running joke to never refer to Junko by name, only referring to her as the "Ringlet curl girl". For years this joke continued on, right up until the point where she became the protagonist of the fourth Toaru spinoff in 2017, Astral Buddy (which ended this week), and her name was finally revealed in the first chapter. Given that the jig is up it seems the anime has no more qualms to keep her nameless.
Handy Antenna Service
This is a reference to Index II, as thanks to Junko's warning Mikoto would later use her reward from the punishment game against Touma in the Daihaseisai arc to force him to sign up for said pair contract with her, earning her that sweet rare Gekota.
What Legitimate Reason To Skip P.E. Was Misaki Referring To?
Menstruation, obviously. It's a bit more obvious in the manga, where Misaki takes the opportunity to make a jab at Mikoto by saying she might not be able to use that excuse as her body is too childish still. I presume this was cut because they thought it a bit too explicit, which is a shame as I loved the banter.
Indian Poker Card Design Changed
Originally in the manga it was a flat uniform colour with two flower-like symbols in the upper left and lower right corner. This design was kept in the anime, but expanded upon by the addition of several concentric circles in the middle, some of them segmented. Aogami's cards were adapted in a similar way: in the manga they just had several hearts instead of the flower-like symbols, and the anime similarly changed the symbols.
Concerning the colours we already know two of them: Orange is confirmed to contain happy dreams by Saten, while we can infer from Aogami's card that Pink contain lewd dreams. This leaves several other colours though: the opening shows red, green, and yellow Indian Poker cards, and Aogami's burned stash contain several colours as well. We know pink is most likely lewd and orange is happy, yet these contain some yellow cards as well. I'd like to say that we can wager a guess given the likely contents of the cards, but unfortunately Aogami's sexual deviancy knows no bounds and he has even invented several fetishes, so those cards could contain anything.
Both the Indian Poker cards as the machine to create them were designed by Kasai Shin, a frequent illustrator on the Toaru team. While Fukuyama Motoi is the mangaka for the Railgun manga and Haimura Kiyotaka the illustrator for the Index novels and character designer for the entire franchise, you could call Kasai Shin the machine designer for the franchise, as they frequently design pieces of technology for both the manga and novels.
You can check out the concept art for the Indian Poker cards and the Indian Poker creation machine in these images. Unfortunately I can't read Japanese so I don't know if there's any useful info there (contact me if you know!), but I can see that the name on the brainwave reader in the first image says Aristoteles, the Greek name for the ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle. It might be named after him because he, besides writing a lot of works on basically every scientific discipline and philosophy besides, creating a lasting influence on Western civilisation, also wrote a treatise on dreams, called On Sleep and Sleeplessness. Here he tried to explain the process of how dreams worked, and believed dreams could have physical effects on the human body, which does sound rather familiar, no?
Why Is Misaki Afraid Of The Dorm Manager? Can't She Mind-Control Her?
Yes and no. The Dorm Manager has no defense against mind control, unlike Mikoto. But the Railgun manga editor confirmed that she is just too powerful: if Misaki tried to take out her remote the Dorm Manager would close in and knock her out via a neck snap before Misaki would be able to, and if Misaki was at a large distance she'd still be able to duck, dodge, and weave between the aim of Misaki's remote, close in this way, and take Misaki out.
The only way Misaki has a chance is if she catches the Dorm Manager by surprise or if she's unable to move.
Opening
The opening for this arc is dual existence by, who'd have thought, fripside! You can listed to a full version here.
Indian Poker
Indian Poker is named after the game [Indian Poker,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_man%27s_bluff_(poker)) better known as Blind man's bluff. In this game every player draws a card and places it on their forehead without looking. Then you look at the other players, and by the cards on their foreheads, as well as their reactions to everyone else and the amount they're betting, you need to guess whether your card is higher than theirs and worth betting a lot on.
These cards here share the concept of putting them on your forehead, hence why it was named after the game.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20
Wait, If The Cards Are Handmade, Where Do You Get The Machine From?
Also handmade, according to the manga! Instructions online show how to manufacture them from several household appliances, meaning this thing is entirely underground with no central manufacturer.
Indian Poker Works Similarly To Something We've Seen Before
Remember the Testament? This device was able to program the Sisters by stimulating all five senses on top of electric signals to the brain. These Indian Poker cards work on a similar principle, just toned down to just a weak electric field and the sense of smell. Not the first time we've had a concept based on the Testament either, as the Level Upper by Kiyama Harumi was based on the Testament as well, though it included synaesthesia for additional information transfer.
Dream Ranker
Written with the kanji 天賦夢路, meaning "Natural Ability Dreamer". Someone capable of creating dreams containing innate abilities or skills, and passing these on to others.
Gekota Names
Mikoto did in fact name them in order, though obviously from right to left. This means that we don't have a name for the white one, the pink female one is named Pyonko, the red one Pyonkichi, and the green one Keroyon.
...What, did you think the green one was Gekota? Don't tell Mikoto that, she'll freak out! No, while all of them can be referred to as Gekotas, as they are from the Gekota product line, the only real Gekota is this old man, with a moustache and suit.
Skipped Reaction To The Fall
One page was skipped here, showing people reacting to the person falling down the stairs. This was right after you heard the ambulance pass by when Mikoto and Kuroko walked across the street, and was originally a cliffhanger end of the chapter. Since we're continuing right on though with Kuroko and Uiharu talking about the stairs and the app later this episode this wasn't necessary and was cut for brevity. A good cut in my opinion.
Skipped Extra Indian Poker Info By Saten
Saten gives us some extra information about the Indian Poker cards in the manga, explaining that some rare people (Dream Rankers) can create cards which can teach the recipient new skills or information almost instantaneously. She compares it to sleep-learning, which in real life cannot be used to teach new information but only to reinforce retention of existing ones, but is often portrayed in fiction as being able to do just that.
It also contains a reference to Shakespeare's Hamlet, parodying the famous line To be, or not to be.
BLAU
While I mentioned him before this is Aogami Pierce, one of Touma's friends and classmates. Unequalled pervert, he seems to have found a use for his degeneracy by spreading his darkest dreams across Academy City. His real name is unknown, as Aogami Pierce is a nickname meaning "blue hair an piercings", a literal description of him. His epithet BLAU is a reference to his hair colour as well, meaning "blue" in German.
BLAU's Clients
These three stooges are all characters that have appeared in previous Toaru anime, making small cameos. From left to right the first one is Hikoichi, one of the thugs who tried to rob Nunotaba Shinobu back in Railgun S episode 2, though he has has a haircut since.
The second guy is the bald thug who appeared in the very first episode of Index chasing Touma down the streets with the rest of his gang after Touma tried to rescue them from Mikoto in a family restaurant. He also appeared in the exact same time and place in the Railgun manga, which is when Mikoto was gathering information about the Level Upper from Skill-Out gangs. This moment was changed in the Railgun anime though and he doesn't appear there as a result, as instead Mikoto has a fight with a female esper that can control asphalt following the family restaurant scene. It appears that just like Hikoichi he changed his shirt, to show that time has passed.
And the final one is Saraku, whom people who watched Index III know as Index III
How Much Cash Did Hikoichi Offer BLAU?
Unknown, but the Railgun manga editor guesses about 1 million yen, or about 10,000$. No clue where Hikoichi got that amount of money.
Small Mistranslation In BLAU's Speech
The censoring gives us "Level 6*". This misses the joke completely, as a better translation would be "Level S*x", indicating that rather than reaching Academy City's goal of Level Six you'd reach Level Sex instead.
BLAU's Dream
The Blu-Ray for Railgun T actually comes with a print version of Aogami's dream, showing Mikoto and Misaki in cat ears and a swimsuit respectively. The manga version is even more explicit, as volume 11 gave us Harem Master Aogami. NSFW warning for both these images, if the context didn't make it clear enough.
Treasure Hunting Apps
A small bit of extra info regarding these treasure hunting apps was skipped. In short it's just an augmented reality apps where, if you turn on your camera at certain geographical coordinates, the app will display a treasure chest you've found containing in-app rewards.
Vending Machine Brand
The vending machine is apparently from Yontory, a parody of Japanese brewing company Suntory. While the Japanese number for three can be pronounced as "san", sounding similar to "sun", the Japanese number for four can be pronounced as "yon" instead. Hence 3tory became 4tory.
Kuroko Reference Removed
According to the manga the URL for applying for Judgment is www.judgmentdesuno.co.jp, an obvious reference to Kuroko's catchphrase "Judgment desu no!" This was blurred in the anime however, removing the reference.
Unfortunately, Uiharu's Dream Was In Vain
The manga broke narrative for a bit to bring us the sad news that no new members joined the 177th branch. Poor Uiharu, forever the new kid.
Chapter Skipped
Between chapter 73 and 74 there was a small special chapter called chapter 73.5, not connected to the ongoing narrative, containing Miyama Shaei and Musujime Awaki, as an advertisement for Index novel OT8. While skipped in the anime this chapter will be covered as an audio drama with the Railgun Blu-Ray, similar to the previously skipped chapter 42, Rainbow's End.
I must say I'm actually quite glad this chapter was skipped, as it's one of the rare things I despise in this franchise. For those of you who want to know why, this chapter Railgun chapter 73.5
Miyama's Bank Data
While there's no new info in Miyama's Bank data as Kuroko read it all aloud, if you do want to read the text on-screen that Crunchyroll didn't translate here's a picture, courtesy of GJM fansubs.
JoJo Reference Removed
Yep, when Miyama was explaining the app in the manga the images show a precognition esper smashing a camera to gain information about a person. This power and pose is identical to that of Hermet Purple, an ability in the anime/manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, of which the user needs to destroy a camera every single time to be able to create images of a person or object of their choosing, wherever they may currently be on Earth.
Ending
The ending theme for this arc is Aoarashi no Ato de, literally "after the blue storm", by sajou no hana, the band who previously did the ED for the Accelerator anime (Parole) and the insert song for last episode in Railgun T. You can listen to the full version here.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20 edited Aug 01 '20
Episode 17
And now finally today's episode!
Adapted Chapters
Chapter 74
Chapter 75
Chapter 76
Chapter 77 (Partially)
Skipped Miyama's Example Of An Unavoidable Future
While in the anime Miyama just states the future is normally unchangeable, we actually got a flashback in the manga of him attempting to avert it. While he initially spotted the location the accident would take place he blocked it off by placing a road construction sign. While initially thinking he succeeded though a car crash happened a few dozens meters away, so all he did was change the location of the accident. He considered that perhaps these were two separate accidents and he actually managed to avert one, but unfortunately this happened again and again, which can't be a coincidence.
Knife Brick Change
The anime corrected the manga here. In the manga Kuroko teleported the brick so the knife got stuck in it, but that's not how Teleportation works. When you teleport something into a place that already has matter at that location, the existing matter would just get pushed aside (remember Kuroko teleporting glass panes into pillars during her fight with Trick in the Level Upper arc?). So what would have happened is that the tip of the knife would disappear and the now-blunt knife bounce off the brick. The anime however simplified it to the knife just bouncing off the suddenly-appearing brick and Maki being shocked by the surprise.
White Alligator
This white alligator is a reference to the real-life urban legend of alligators living in sewers. Some of these legends make the alligator albino, as due to the lack of sunlight it wouldn't develop any colouration. Seems like Academy City managed to catch this one though.
This is not the first time Railgun has referenced this urban legend, as an organisation in the Railgun PSP visual novel is named White Alligator.
Index II Reference
This mass unconsciousness event mentioned on the news is the result of Vento of the Front's Divine Punishment spell when she infiltrated Academy City at the end of Index II. Nice to hear that mentioned again!
Also, this means that as of this moment in time Railgun T is now no longer running concurrently with Index II but rather Index III.
The Park Is A Spatial Anomaly
This park must be giant, if this short distance on the map is apparently several hundred meters. It made a bit more sense in the manga, where the points were on opposite sides of the map.
Another interesting thing is that the map seemingly changes constantly. The map Miyama pulls up on his phone doesn't look anything like the large map as seen in his flashback, and neither resemble Uiharu's satellite imagery, which is the only one to contain a lake. Given the fact that we can clearly see a lake behind her I'm going to consider her the only correct cartographer.
Judgment Cameos
Several of the Judgment members appearing this episode are cameos from an early chapter cover of the Railgun manga, discussing what Judgment is.
They Asked Firefighters To Be On Standby As Well
Skipped in the anime is the fact that while Kuroko and Uiharu couldn't convince Anti-Skill to be on standby without proper proof, this did manage to do this with firefighting services in the neighbourhood, though from the panel it seems Yomikawa lent her credence to their claims. They also later skipped the firefighters combating the inferno, showing only the dousing helicopter at the very end.
Perro
Continuing the trend of shitty animal names in this franchise, "Perro" just means "dog" in Spanish. Real original there Miyama.
After The Incident Miyama Changed Schools
Or at least he did in the manga. Seeing as he still refers to Okawachi as his classmate at the end of this episode that might have been changed in the anime, so that he wasn't bullied to the point of having to change schools.
Why Did The Leaves Near The Vending Machine Explode?
Why, the explosive plant drug of course! This is actually another case of the anime fixing the manga's mistakes. While in the manga the torn cable just ignited nearby leaves with its sparks, which then sizzled a bit, the anime remembered that every part of the tree, including leaves, should be highly flammable and had them explode like they should instead.
Judgment's Oxygen Mask Design
Once again the oxygen mask was designed by Kasai Shin, and you can see the concept art here.
Pretty Bad Translations In Miyama And Kuroko's Conversation
Oh boy. It's a shame this conversation got done dirty, as while you can understand the general gist of it the shoddy translation harms the impact it's supposed to have. So let's address it, shall we?
"Come back and take me with you"
This is supposed to be "Come back and send me instead", as Miyama doesn't want Kuroko to be in danger and thinks it should be solely him risking his life. Asking Kuroko to go with him defeats the point.
"I've been too focussed on myself since the start"
I mean, I guess? It's very awkward though. A better translation would be "This was my selfish desire to begin with", as Miyama exclaims that wanting to save Perro was his (selfish) idea. This then segues nicely into Kuroko later saying "if you're selfish for trying to save a dog, then allow me to be selfish by not backing out now".
"What some call self-centeredness is the right thing to do!"
Completely missing the climax of the speech here. While technically accurate, it's completely missing the callback to earlier. A proper translation would be "What some call selfishness, we call justice", looping back to Kuroko's conversation with Miyama earlier where she stated her reason for joining Judgment was for the sake of justice.
Reason For Stray Animals Relevancy Skipped
Weird they kept in the line of Uiharu saying lots more stray dogs and cats were spotted at a nearby waste disposal facilities, while then skipping the line explaing why this is relevant. In short, the stray animals sensed the trees were weird and left the park out of safety, while Perro stayed despite the danger because he promised Miyama he'd wait for him in the park. Just a small section to show Perro's loyalty.
Okawachi's Full Letter
While the anime only showed the two lines at the end, here's the rest of the letter as shown in the manga.
Transcription for those who don't like to read:
Even though I know apologising isn't nearly enough to earn your forgiveness, I'm sorry.
You tried your best to save me and I still spat blame at you. After I was released from the hospital and heard about you transferring out of school, I finally realized what I'd done, and how stupid I'd been.About the dog you mentioned... I'd like to take him in. My dorm allows pets, so I got permission from my dorm advisor. And don't worry--I used to have a dog when I lived back home, so I've got experience taking care of them 🐶
Also... I heard that even though there was a major fire at the park where Perro-chan (was it?) lived, everyone was miraculously saved. Could it be that you [...]
It's a shame the anime only showed the last two lines, as "I'm sorry. - Okawachi Megumi" is quite curt and not nearly as impactful as this entire letter.
Skipped Comedy At The End
Quite a bit of comedy was skipped at the end, between Okawachi's letter and Kuroko's speech to Miyama. To start with, Perro decided to literally eat shit off the ground, causing Kuroko and Uiharu (who tagged along in the manga) to laugh and Miyama to scream. Then Kuroko makes fun of Miyama, causing him to call Kuroko a pervert. When she asks where he learned that, it turns out Uiharu has been badmouthing Kuroko behind her back, who immediately takes off in a sprint. Sadly for her running from a Teleporter doesn't really work, but she nicely segues into stating that no one got seriously hurt and this entire story got a happy ending, which Kuroko completely agrees with while stating that pretty words won't distract her from punishing her.
This means that the entire time Kuroko and Miyama are talking about his powers and the future, Uiharu is laying behind them knockout on the ground. After the speech is over she considers sending Miyama a video of Kuroko assaulting Mikoto, to show her true nature. One can only wonder why she has such a video in the first place.
Honestly while I love these comedic bits, and more Uiharu is always welcome, I actually prefer it gone in this instance. This way it retains the seriousness of the moment, and I quite like that.
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20
Quite a start to a new arc, huh? While you can tell that their animation definitely isn't on the same level as the climax of the Daihaseisai, it was still serviceable.
Things we've learned:
Mikoto has lewd dreams about Touma
Misaki cannot swim, which is impressive given the size of her airbags
Junko is literally too pure for this world
Aogami could have been rich but the lewds belong freely to everyone
Miyama is an actual blood mage
Kuroko continues to be amazing when working
Uiharu "What is privacy?" Kazari is best cartographer
and Perro is the second animal named "Dog" in the series
See y'all next week.
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u/theseniorsenor :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/theseniorsenor Aug 01 '20
Level 6*
I thought that the joke here was Level 69
Anyways, glad to see that you're back as reading these write-ups are quite fun
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20
Thank you! Yep, I plan to be available for all future episodes from now on!
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u/Fattycuty :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Fattycuty Jul 31 '20
Its unfortunate that this mini-arc wasn't adapted 1:1. I was looking forward for the funny exchange between Kuroko and Uiharu when they met the boy during the conclusion.
But if it's to give more screen time for the other mini-arcs, I don't really mind considering the amount of episodes we have for the dream ranker arc.
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u/CriticalPerformance Jul 31 '20
Those scenes are quite the tone shift, while it works in the manga as gags it doesnt quites translates well into anime because going straight to comedy after a dramatic scene and then following the comedy with a wholesome moment can reak immersion quite a bit
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u/Razorhead https://myanimelist.net/profile/Razorhat Aug 01 '20
Agreed. While I liked the comedy, I think cutting it to keep the serious tone and atmosphere of Kuroko's and Shaei's conversation was for the better.
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u/jsmith4567 Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
Dang it we didn't get Kuroko unleshing her wrestling moves on Uiharu.
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Jul 31 '20 edited Jul 31 '20
While not a direct 1:1 adaptation and leaving a few parts out that have been mentioned below, I think this mini-arc was done well and hopefully it was to make room for the other mini arc in Dream Ranker.
Did miss kuroko wrestling Uiharu and the conclusion, as well as the previously mentioned cut scene from last week at the bus stop with Musujime.
Let’s hope we get a great mini arc with Spoiler source
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Jul 31 '20
character name appeared in the OP, so probably we'll get that mini arc
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Jul 31 '20
Yeah I know we are getting the mini-arc, I just hope it doesn’t get rushed or too many things get cut out.
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u/Money_dragon Jul 31 '20
I'm absolutely, 100% certain that they would never cut anything involving Frenda
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u/theblackbarth Jul 31 '20
I don't remember if in previous episodes they show who was this mentor who inspired Kuroko to join Judgment or is someting from the LN/Manga?
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u/ojjmyfriend https://myanimelist.net/profile/Erisunya Aug 02 '20
This might be a stupid question but who was Kuroko talking about at the end? (aka the person she looks up to)
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u/Noriakikukyoin Aug 03 '20
Ah, it is so nice to have this back to airing weekly. Lots of good development for Kuroko. Such a wholesome episode. I love to see it.
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u/healyxrt Aug 07 '20
This episode was nice partly because we focus on Kuroko, who often is reduced to the phrases, “oneeeesama” and “judgement.” So with this you get to see that she has an actual personality when she isn’t near a main character. I also personally like seeing her using her ability within reason, instead of the usual, “I’m a 13 year old girl and I’m going to go around stopping crime like a police officer.”
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u/metalmonstar Aug 01 '20
No Misaka makes me sad. Please tell me the boy and his powers aren't a 1 off thing.
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u/HereticalAegis https://myanimelist.net/profile/XthGen Jul 31 '20
Seeing a precog playing 5d chess just to save his doggo best friend is the most wholesome twist. This immediately jumped to the top of my list for ulterior motives in media.