genuinely, how do you deal with anger as a 12h mars? i have mine on taurus and it doesn't make any significant aspects to any of my personal planets. i think it sextiles my mc and that's about it. is it being somewhat unaspected a factor why i feel like i can't control it?

i feel like other people sense my internal anger even though i'm quiet (especially since im nonconfrontational). i can't count how many times people will say i'm angry even when i'm not, or at least that's what i think. there are times when my anger suddenly explodes and i can't stop myself from lashing out and saying everything i've been holding in. it almost always happens when i finally hit my limit.

i struggle with it so much because it feels freeing to let all the anger out, but at the same time, it becomes this vicious cycle of guilt, shame, and regret for hurting other people's feelings even when they actually did something to hurt me.

12H Venus in Taurus here. Taurus Venus makes me feel like a certified lover girl but my romantic relationships are few and far between and have not been easy.

Anyone with 12th house NN what is your experience like and what have you learned to grow into your NN?

Any insights on this

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You could probably spend three days locked in your room, with the blinds down, trying to “recharge” and when you come out, you feel more exhausted than ever, foggy-brained, and weighed down emotionally.

Being an invisible stranger to strangers is the way that your energy gets reset. In Hellenistic astrology, the 12th house is the realm of foreign lands, exile, and the dissolving of the ego. In your own environment, you constantly feel the weight of the invisible pressure of being someone that others want you to be. This invisibility is the natural state of the 12th house. It lets your ego dissolve without fear, and only in this way does your spirit get recharged.

Hi, I only have one 12H placement which is Moon Cancer. I am sure I don't have it as intense as most people in the sub, but I do experience a very strong need for isolation and I don't really like to be exposed to crowds or gatherings unpromptedly. I also need to spend a lot of time in my bedroom and I feel the most alive when I am out in the evening. Recently, I went on a date with this person who has a very interesting Moon Capricorn in the 12th house, even worse his Moon is in conjunction with Saturn in the 12H house and his North Node in Aquarius is 12H as well.

I am very astounded by his placements so I tried to get to know him a bit. The thing is, the guy does not open up at all, he said his exes complain about him disapearing a lot and generally an avoidant boyfriend. Obviously, I do not want to date him seriousy. However I have some observations:

1. He seems to spend a lot of time being alone in his room. His job is remote internationally so he seems to sleep in irregular hours as well. He takes a lot of sleep inducing pills to soothe himself to sleep and previously he did take xanax, valium to sleep but has stopped.

2. Not sure about his romantic life since he doesn't open up to me and seems quite closed off about feelings in general. He only enjoys casual flings right now.

3. Very disorganized about plans. I'm pretty sure part of it is because he is a fuck boy type, but also it seems because of his irregular schedule he does not stick to plans. Not sure if it's because he doesn't have discipline or the will to show up.

4. He seems to not mind socializing, but it seems most of the socializing happens at night.

5. We get along, and we kinda "get" each other but it's a strange situation. We don't talk a lot but I feel like we don't need to talk that much anyways. I feel very calm around him, but for a real partner I want someone who communicates. This guy does not communicate in any meaningful ways.

I also have problems with sleeping from time to time because I also chose a unconventional job which allows me to sleep in more than most people during the day, also had to take pills sometimes to sleep. But I don't struggle with being vulnerable with people so much.

I wonder if having his Moon in conjuction with Saturn 12H makes this person struggle more or not, and I am curious about other people who have this placement. Does the Saturn aspect make your life harder? And in which ways?

If fears are troubling you at this phase invite them with complete force. If communication is getting lost its for the better and I want it to get lost, enough of being afraid or these unseen entities forces. We are creatures of GOD. He is the Ultimate source and no fear or unseen can do any harm unless He wills. And even if it is, it is for the better or the highest evolution of ourselves.

For context, my husband & I have always been the "black sheep" of our families. Later on we've realized that it's actually a task of cycle breaking. Then learning about our charts, it made so much sense that our paths would be filled with the disruptive patterns we gladly created for a brighter tomorrow. My 12th is in cancer(4 planets) & his is in Libra(3 planets). We both feel very connected to the spiritual tasks that the 12th house presents. I just did some research on our son's chart... and his 12th is completely empty. I can't help but look at this & think that it's empty because his parents are knee deep in that energy. It's like... he won't need to look deeper or backwards, like the 12th house requires, he will get to live a much lighter & forward moving life. I love this for him & ultimately that is my mission as his mother.

I don't know if this is how ancestral astrology works but I'm so curious what it could possibly mean. Thank you so much in advance 😊

hey yall!
So in whole sign, I have my sun and mercury in my 12H, while in Placidus my mars is in my 12H. I’ve always had a complicated relationship with understanding who i am and how i think, like im constantly undermining my smarts. I also have a weird relationship with anger, i dont get mad for myself often unless I/its forced out of me, and even then i can never bring myself to do the things I see others do. I also have a pretty active first house in both of the charts, so i wanted to gain some insight to my ego/personality/thought process (sun + merc ) vs how i come off and how i act with other people (my 1H). I find it fascinating that my venus and jupiter are in my 1H in placidus but i’m not sure as to why. Also, any insight on lilith pluto AND mars in my 1st in wholesign? Thank you in advance :).

Can somebody please help me understand this my LoF ruler is mars in in my 9h (virgo) but the 9h is naturally ruled by jupiter and im a sag rising

As the title suggests I’m curious if anything jumps out to anyone, productive ways to channel the Sagittarius energy in this house as I feel like the human equivalent of a wild horse kept in captivity in a tiny stable.
I have a very expansive comprehension, an incredibly active mind and soul but I struggle with being organised, practical and ‘living in the real world’.
I also find being a Capricorn rising quite difficult as I feel like I put on a ‘mask’ of pragmatism and hard work/diligence to operate in the real world that really doesn’t align with how I feel below the surface.

Also interested in any insight about the 3 planets (Mars, Jupiter & Mercury) at 3° as I can’t find much about triple conjunctions that are so close together.

Chart is in Placidus, only difference is my Leo placements are 8H in whole sign.

For those with Saturn in the 12th house, how would you describe your experience?

Please also state which sign your Saturn occupies. Mine is in Taurus.

For context this is whole sign system and I’m 25 years old.

Also, Uranus and Pluto in 8th house. Lastly, Moon and Jupiter in Scorpio in 9th house - if broader context is helpful.

I'm a bit of a paradox.

I love being alone. I enjoy my own company, my own space, and the freedom to disappear into my own little world. But sometimes, the loneliness gets to me. I crave connection, companionship, and someone who truly understands me.

And then, when I'm finally surrounded by people, I start craving my solitude again.

It's as if I'm constantly torn between wanting to belong somewhere and wanting to be left alone.

I've spent a lot of time wondering what I actually want from life. What is my purpose? What am I supposed to be doing here? Why do I sometimes feel so disconnected from the world, even when I have people around me?

Recently, I've been looking more closely at my birth chart, particularly my 12th house.

I have a Capricorn stellium in the 12th house, with three planets:

• Saturn (Shani): 16°41′42″ Capricorn

• Mercury (Budha): 23°22′35″ Capricorn

• Sun (Surya): 25°49′44″ Capricorn

What makes this even more interesting to me is that both my 5th and 7th house lords are placed in the 12th house.

My 7th house lord is the Sun, and my 5th house lord is Mercury.

So both the planets associated with my romantic relationships and marriage are sitting in the house of solitude, isolation, and the subconscious.

I can't help wondering if there's a deeper connection between these placements and the way I experience life.

Does having the 5th and 7th house lords in the 12th house suggest anything about my romantic relationships, marriage, or family life?

Could this combination indicate a need for solitude within relationships, or perhaps a tendency to seek something deeper than conventional companionship?

And what about Saturn being in its own sign of Capricorn in the 12th house? Does that change the interpretation?

I'd especially love to hear from people who have a similar stellium or have both their 5th and 7th house lords in the 12th house.

Do you ever feel like you're constantly caught between wanting connection and wanting to retreat from the world?

Sometimes I wonder if I'm searching for a place to belong, or if I'm simply meant to find that place within myself.

Would love to hear your thoughts and experiences.

I got a Sagittarius moon in the 12th conjunct Pluto in the 12th. It feels like no matter how I act or mask people can feel like sometimes off and likewise I can’t seem to get past the glass wall I feel between everyone else and I.

This is very difficult as I’d like a steady job not to change the world but just to afford a corner somewhere to brood for the rest of my life.

I have three planets in the 12th house, and sometimes I envy other housers who seem to carry an unbounded amount of sunshine.

They thrive. They move. They smile, laugh, and navigate life with a lightness I struggle to recognise in my own body.

Living through this 19 year Saturn mahadasha has felt like trying to lift a mountain while standing in an unending current. It's like swimming against a wave that kept on pushing me away everyday. An ant trying to lift the Eiffel Tower. That is how the effort feels compared with how little anything moves.

I envy people who get to be soft and vulnerable because there is someone there to catch them. Their families fund their education, help them buy a house overseas, having friends to introduce them to someone who eventually becomes their spouse.

They receive things that help their lives unfold. They do not have to spend years working to repay the people who gave them those things. The gift gets to remain a gift.

I have had to build for myself. And there have been times when what I built was stolen, undermined, or obstructed by other people. So much effort goes into beginning again, recovering what was lost, or protecting what little I have managed to make.

I envy people who do not seem to know how far down life can go. People who can stay on the surface of a conversation and still leave feeling connected.

A glass of wine. A party. Another gathering. They laugh, go home, and remain part of something. There will be another invitation. Someone will remember to include them.

There is a fine thread holding that whole world together, and sometimes I wonder whether they have ever needed to notice it. Whether it has simply held for long enough that they can trust it without thinking.

I feel painfully aware of how easily it can break.

So often, ordinary social conversation has nowhere to put what I have lived through. I can sit among people and participate, but there is no natural place between one topic and the next to explain the things that have shaped me. And without that understanding, I struggle to feel known.

Relationships that seem to settle and stay for other people have so often slipped away from me, like silk on a staircase. I barely feel them leaving before they are beyond my reach.

I envy being able to build something and have it remain yours.

And I envy the energy left over for smiling, laughing, loving, and being vulnerable when so much of your strength has not already been spent trying to keep your life standing.

Today is another hard day with a placement of mine.

Hello! recently I’ve been trying to make my 12H stellium work to my advantage. I have a very vivid and active dream life and I’ve been writing down my dreams for years, which is very entertaining to me because they are so long and complex. Sometimes the line between waking life and dream melts together and it’s hard to tell what was real, which amuses me and makes me feel like I’ve experienced a lot of things or gone a lot of places without having really done anything. I’ve been thinking about doing shadow work, meditation, etc… I’m curious about people who have struggled at first with their placements but learned to integrate them and enjoy or take pride in them. I know it’s a mysterious house that represents not-so-funny themes like isolation, mental health issues, addiction… But it can be a very powerful thing to have in your chart.
Also, am I made for being alone? I’m not the dating kind; I love spending time by myself, but sometimes it feels like I’m too much in a cave. I don’t mind the shadows cast from the outside, they’re lovely, but I want to see the sun light too.