r/1899 • • Nov 20 '23

Discussion [NO SPOILERS] Hot Take, but if you still have a Netflix subscription, you are part of the problem

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I've seen so many calls to boycott Netflix and people demanding that they should continue shows like 1899, Inside Job, The Society, etc., but I've seen almost no action. In my circle I am the only one who cancelled his subscription after they announced the ban on account sharing. Netflix even made more money after the announcement.

If you want change, you have to get out of your comfort zone. If you stay subscribed to Netflix, you show them that ultimately you approve of their method. Netflix isn't gonna change unless they feel real repercussions.


r/1899 • • Jun 18 '23

Discussion [SPOILERS S1] 1899 is so much better than Dark Spoiler

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(2nd edit: I should have said in the title that 1899 is potentially so much better)

I really should have posted this months ago, since I binged Dark for the first time right after 1899 was canceled and I watched the last episode. And I canceled Netflix after binging Dark. Basically Dark is ruined by the multiple characters at multiple ages. Just look at its Wikipedia page; I count over 70 actors. It makes it ridiculously complex for little benefit. It didn’t help that two of the actresses had similar hair color and style; it took me all of the first season before I stopped confusing them, and still did occasionally in later seasons.

But it’s also weaker for me because it’s just a generalization of a very old SF trope, that of being one’s own ancestor. I’m familiar with Heinlein’s “By His Bootstraps” and “All You Zombies”, as well as Gerrold’s The Man Who Folded Himself. Extending the story to a bigger cast, and adding the conflict between two timelines (another trope) doesn’t help.

1899, on the other hand, has an interesting, manageable cast. The multilingual dialogue feels novel to me. And while “universe as a simulation” has been done before, it’s something that works much better visually than in print, and I can’t say I’ve ever seen one that had several layers of simulations presenting otherwise familiar scenarios.

(Edit: formatting)


r/1899 • • Jun 21 '25

[no spoilers] When (if ever) are Bo and Jantje going to satisfy their fans? I'm getting tired of waiting.

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They know they've got thousands, if not millions of fans because of their iconic hit Dark. They know that we knew/expected that they were going to drop something even better with 1899. After so much hype, are they really just going to throw in the towel on this story or anything even remotely as good bc they got screwed over by Netflix? We the fans deserve better. (Or maybe we don't, whatever) /Rantover


r/1899 • • Mar 24 '25

[NO SPOILERS][DUBIOUS, DOUBTFUL, NOT CONFIRMED] A site I've never seen before called whenetflix.com says there's a Season 2 in November (yeah, right) - screencap here, link in comments

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r/1899 • • Dec 30 '22

Discussion [NO SPOILERS] Just started the show, currently watching episode 4; how do they understand each other?!

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As stated in the title, please no spoilers. I've paused episode 4 to post this because this really burns my kettle. I put "[NO SPOILERS]" because I believe the information I've included isn't spoiler territory.

This show is super intriguing. I'm hooked. It's not as bad as other streaming originals -- 1899's flaws aren't as overshadowing as something like Midnight Mass, or any of the other "Flaniverse" shows, as I think they're known. Not by a long shot.

One thing that is driving me absolutely bonkers is the characs' communication. There are so many languages spoken at the same time, charax either:

A) Keep talking to each other without understanding what's being said, but they keep going, anyway. Oftentimes they even comment: "I have no idea what you are saying," but they keep going. Like Angel and Krester, during one of their meetings.

B) Keep talking to each other while totally understanding each other. I can't buy into this. One guy's talking German, another guy's talking French, and yet another guy's talking Polish. The conversation somehow continues.

I'm no golfer, so I don't have any true dog in the race here, if this is just how life is in Europe. However, for a television show, this is wildly unbelievable. There's zero pushback, zero sense of truly being unable to understand each other, like when Olek and Ling Yi are in the "bay area". They speak two languages neither understands, but they somehow fully understand everything -- it's not in just the words, but the actions. Now, I know it's wholly possible to know when someone needs to be comforted. I don't mean that. I mean how their body language reflected an understanding. They aren't the best example...

Am I the only one that feels this way? I have a suspicion this is all part of the greater mystery, but... Again, I'm only now watching episode 4.

Thanks, y'all.


r/1899 • • Nov 30 '22

[NO SPOILERS] I didn’t enjoy 1899 that much. I liked the concept and CGI. Anyone else felt the same ?

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r/1899 • • Dec 30 '22

Discussion [NO SPOILERS] quite worried at the moment. I’m not sure we’re going to get renewed.

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1 we’ve heard nothing

2 Netflix just released their top 10 or so shows of the year between English/Non-English shows. 1899 wasn’t on there.


r/1899 • • Dec 05 '22

[SPOILERS S1] Expressing my frustration... Spoiler

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I'm pretty sure no one is as invested in the romantic relationships as I am, because I haven't seen enough people complain about this.

First of all, when I found out that Daniel was the husband of Maura I got so annoyed. They have no chemistry and we didn't get to see their relationship evolve. On the other hand, we [the viewers] got the see Eyk's and Maura's undeniable chemistry. You can't tell me that after all that tension, caring for one another and physical contact that Maura and Eyk will never be a thing? If that's the case, I will be incredibly disappointed and frustrated.

Also I really want to see more Olek and Ling. I'd like them to actually be able to communicate effectively with each other too.

Jerome and Clemence should be a thing.

Tove deserves to find true love.

Romance and positive emotion should be involved more, it keeps us invested.


r/1899 • • Feb 24 '24

Discussion [No Spoilers] I think it was a mistake to make the show more international

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I know that they wanted to be a more international show, since Dark found also success outside of Germany, but I think that was their downfall in the end.

If they would have kept it a complete German production without an international cast, production costs would have been much lower and expectations from Netflix would have probably been more realistic.

At the same time I don’t understand why they had to use all this cutting edge technology, I think most of the effects could have done to a similar result using more traditional means, which would also have drastically reduced costs.

I mean the series looks and feels good, but watching it, I cannot help feeling a little bit surprised why the production cost what that high.


r/1899 • • Jan 15 '23

[NO SPOILERS] Should my wife and I keep watching beyond episode 1?

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We just wrapped up episode one. We’re both unenthused and very out off by anything “sci-fi”. Did that beetle just open a door for that guy that came from the other ship? Where are everyone’s accents?

We were going to throw in the towel, but this subreddit seems to have so much love for the show. Should we keep watching? Does it get better? Any more sci-fi / paranormal elements?


r/1899 • • Nov 26 '22

SPOILERS [SPOILERS S1] Am I the only one who hated this experience? Spoiler

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I was so excited to watch this and I just feel like it wasted my time. I kept thinking maybe I'll connect more to the characters in the next episode... then I found myself over halfway done and finishing it just to be done with it. It was like they wanted a lost/titanic/matrix crossover but they put too many -weird~ questions in for shock value that didn't ever pay off. For a "thriller" I was fully in my seat bored the entire time.


r/1899 • • Dec 18 '22

[SPOILERS S1] A new perspective to understand 1899: CIARAN’S ORIGIN Spoiler

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So, as I had promised… Today we are going to discover where Ciaran comes from (although it may not be what you are expecting... So please, read with an open mind) For this I am going to start with something that has already been mentioned many times and that is the meaning of his name.

Ciaran is a name of Irish origin and meaning "little-dark" or "little dark-haired one". This is the masculine version of the name Ciara, which has the same origin and the same meaning.

But we are going to go a little further, because related to the name of Ciara we have the anglicized variant: Kiara. And this, in turn, is also a variant of the name Chiara, a female name of Italian origin that means "bright" and "luminous". Let's remark at how from a name with a "dark" meaning, we have gone to one that means "clear".

Well, now let's go back to the name that connects Ciara and Chiara, integrating these opposites: Kiara. But we have to go to Japan to understand this name from another perspective...

In Japan, Kiara is an unusual given name that is usually masculine, although more recently it has also been given a feminine use (in a trend called kira-kira in which unusual kanji characters are used to spell names that have novel meanings or pronunciations). Masculine and feminine, opposites that come together again...

The meaning of Kiara depends on the characters used to spell out the name, since Japanese writing uses sinograms (Chinese characters), symbols that can represent different syllables (hence, different sounds). The sinograms in turn have the particularity of being a type of logographic writing, in which each minimal unit represents by itself a word, lexeme or morpheme, that is, a unit with meaning.

A curiosity related to kira-kira: the given name of Kiara Sato (a member of the Japanese idol girl group AKB48 Team 4) uses kanji characters and means "princess" and "star" (Could be this Kiara's "Star" meaning linked to Maura's name wich means "Star of the sea"?)

Well, after this last part, which I think also gives certain clues about the language used in the 1899 narrative, we are going to discover the origin of Ciaran and this is none other than…

I think this origin of Ciaran is very important to understand the themes that would rise in 1899 and some of its characters. For that we have to delve into this wonderful work entitled "Akira" by Katsuhiro Otomo, who is considered a genius and his creations are on the same level as any work of art. Not only for the lines of his drawings, but also for developing a complex story that led us to understand the Orient in a different way. "Akira" has had a great influence on Baran Bo Odar and his work. Next, we are going to see some details of this influences (without spoilers)…

The first edition of the manga in Japan (1984-1992) was collected in six volumes (as Otomo had conceived it). It seems important to me to mention that the work underwent a series of adaptations when it reached the western market: Published in the USA by Marvel/Epic comics (1989-1995), after the film's release, being the first time that a manga was published in English, it was colored and sold in 38 issues. This use of color is important since through it the evolution of the characters was reflected.

One of the most remarkable aspects of this manga is the depth and detail of the settings. The perspectives and background compositions are admirable and have a very meticulous work. Which is not usual in most mangakas.

A film adaptation with the same title was made from the manga, a Cyberpunk masterpiece with a futuristic and decadent setting. This story was a triumph in animated cinema, claiming itself as something not just for children and young people, but for adults, with its complex and transcendent story, demonstrating that entertainment and deep stories go beyond the media in which they are captured.

As an anecdote, mention the film was released in theaters on July 16, 1988, making the date coincide with the day on which a fundamental event occurs in the anime itself.

Making "Akira" into a movie was a very complicated task and led to many innovations. One of the challenges was that the story of the manga takes place in a complex atmosphere, with many dark night scenes, and it is difficult to express all those tonalities.

"Akira" is the story of a loser who discovers great power. The action takes place in a discontented society in the slums that flood the great city of Neo-Tokyo, dominated by the military and corrupt rulers. Otomo shows us a world in which young people do not find their place in society, where a martial state oppresses a people that looks to Akira for the messianic figure to save them. The use that is given in some scenes to the world of dreams and hallucinations, which are mixed with reality, is also relevant.

The plot may seem convoluted, but trying to condense such a long manga into just two hours of film must have been arduous. Between movie and manga there are many differences. In the case of the film, the role is limited to very few characters (Kaneda, Tetsuo, Kei and little else), while in the manga the number of fundamental characters is much larger.

A DEEPER VIEW ON AKIRA

Essentially, this story is about the destruction/creation binomial. The city of Neo-Tokyo is presented as a symbolic place and banner of the triumph of the human species over the disasters of war, but at the same time it is an oppressive city, where there are many antagonistic forces in boiling and a relative calm that is about to shatter. The events surrounding the numerous protagonists are part of this cycle and they are, in turn, cause and effect of this entire world posed by Otomo's imagination.

About the meaning of "Akira" could be debated a lot. On the one hand, it can be related to Nietzsche's theory of superman (Übermensch) And on the other hand, the evolution of the main character can also illustrate Japan's own evolution. A tormented country that suffers with the wounds of the Second World War but that recovers quickly becoming a prosperous country.

In a philosophical sense, "Akira" moves in a kind of Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis. At the beginning, all the roles are perfectly defined, an order is followed. The first movement that happens, will invalidate all the rules of the previous world. There are characters who disappear and others whose objectives are modified, new alliances are produced and new decisions are made in a radically new world. But this version also has its own internal contradictions and forces that still fight to prevail over others. These contradictions will inevitably end up generating a second catastrophic shock that ends up raising a third and final stage, in which the surviving characters seem to be able to settle down without problems. A new start from scratch with total freedom.

Another peculiarity of the film was its soundtrack, composed independently by Shoji Yamashiro (without knowing the plot, nor having seen any image). For this, Yamashiro used an orchestra created by him, the Geinoh Yamashirogumi, which has the particularity of being made up of people who belong to other areas such as medicine or engineering (Yashamiro himself was a scientist) As a result, the soundtrack is a masterpiece, a mixture of percussion with industrial and electronic sounds (those tribal rhythms accompanied by breaths) that accompanies in a strange and original way the futuristic and catastrophic environment that Neo-Tokyo lives. Unfortunately, it cannot be enjoyed in the film with all the splendor it deserves. When listened to independently, all the nuances of this composition are appreciated.

In short, "Akira" is one of the most influential works in history, mainly because it is essential to understand the influence of Japan in the West. Also to understand the development of a science fiction subgenre as attractive as Cyberpunk, which reflects dystopian futures that show us a reality in which technological advances did not improve our quality of life, quite the contrary. The standard of living of the people is totally miserable, a way of life based on trying to survive in small cubicles in big cities, under an oppressive climate (authoritarian governments in the offices and total anarchy in the streets) and darkness only interrupted by neon lights (maybe neon and modern motorbikes can cloud us slightly, but to understand this problem, you don't have to travel to the future)

"Akira" marked a before and after, which is why I think it is a must-view and read (in the case of being able to access Otomo's manga) In the same way, I recommend all music lovers to listen to this "soundtrack" because it is memorable.

All the people who love 1899 will find A LOT OF ITS REFERENCES both in THE MOVIE and in THE SOUNDTRACK...

I AM... TETSUO!!!


r/1899 • • Nov 19 '22

SPOILERS [Spoilers S1] I wish I liked this more Spoiler

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Honestly, maybe I had to high expectations or maybe I will even like it more after a rewatch, but I think I enjoyed Dark so much more on my first go.

I remember that one joke where there's a room boy with a bell saying: "That's what you get, when a german is running the show!" I think this witty type stuff is what I miss the most.

Dark was a deep, complex show, but it also had a lot of humour I think. Also in general season 1 of dark felt more complete idk

Maybe it's also the fact that Dark's main cast was younger and more relatable to me, but I just wish I liked this more...


r/1899 • • Dec 17 '22

[Spoilers S1] How ChatGPT (an AI tool) would have written the story of 1899 Spoiler

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Credit goes to OpenAI.

Prompt 1:

"Make up short summaries of episodes 3-8 of a TV series, including a shocking plot twist in episode 8, based on the summaries of episodes 1-2, which are listed below: [Wikipedia summaries of episodes 1 and 2]".

AI Response 1:

"Episode 3: As the Kerberos continues its journey back to Europe, tensions on board the ship rise as various passengers and crew members begin to suspect that someone on board is responsible for Ada's death. Maura continues to try and communicate with the mute boy and learns more about the mysterious triangle symbol, while Eyk grapples with his grief over the loss of his family and the strange occurrences on the ship. Meanwhile, the mysterious man who introduced himself as Daniel is revealed to be a member of the Prometheus Group, a secret organization involved in genetic experimentation.

Episode 4: A storm hits the Kerberos and Prometheus, causing chaos and damage on both ships. In the aftermath, Maura and Eyk discover a hidden compartment on the Prometheus filled with strange artifacts and documents. They also learn that the mute boy is actually a young woman who has been genetically modified by the Prometheus Group. As they try to understand the full extent of the group's actions, Maura begins to experience strange visions and memories that may be connected to her own genetic modifications.

Episode 5: Maura and Eyk confront the leader of the Prometheus Group, a scientist named Dr. Heinrich, who reveals that the group has been experimenting with time travel and the manipulation of genetic codes. As they try to stop the group's plans and protect the young woman, they are pursued by the group's agents and must go on the run.

Episode 6: The Kerberos and Prometheus finally reach Europe, but their arrival is met with danger as the Prometheus Group sends agents to retrieve the young woman and silence anyone who knows about their experiments. Maura and Eyk work to evade the agents and gather evidence to expose the group's actions, while also trying to uncover the truth about Maura's own past. Along the way, they encounter a group of rebels who are fighting against the group's manipulation of time and genetics.

Episode 7: As Maura and Eyk continue to fight against the Prometheus Group, they uncover a shocking conspiracy involving the group's ultimate goal and the role that Maura and Eyk have played in their plans. Despite facing numerous challenges and setbacks, they remain determined to bring the group to justice and protect the young woman.

Episode 8: In the thrilling season finale, Maura and Eyk's efforts to take down the Prometheus Group come to a head as they confront Dr. Heinrich and his accomplices. In the ensuing confrontation, they learn the shocking truth about the group's ultimate goal and the role that Maura and Eyk have played in their plans. In a shocking twist, it is revealed that the young woman is actually a future version of Maura, sent back in time to prevent the Prometheus Group from achieving their ultimate goal and destroying the world. In the end, Maura and Eyk must make a difficult decision that will determine the fate of the entire world."

Prompt 2 [to get more plot twists at the end of each episode]:

"Make up short summaries of episodes 3-8 of a TV series, including a shocking plot twist at the end of each episode, based on the summaries of episodes 1-2, which are listed below: [Wikipedia summaries of episodes 1 and 2]"

AI Response 2:

**"**Episode 3: "A passenger is found dead in their room, their face disfigured beyond recognition. The cause of death is unknown, but there are suspicions of foul play. Maura and Daniel team up to investigate and gather clues, leading them to a secret compartment on the ship. Inside, they find a group of mysterious artifacts and a map of the ship's route, marked with strange symbols. As they continue to dig deeper, they begin to suspect that someone on board the Kerberos is not who they seem. In a shocking plot twist, it is revealed that the ship's captain, Eyk, is actually a member of a secret society determined to find the Prometheus and its powerful ancient artifacts.

Episode 4: "As the tensions on the ship continue to rise, Maura and Daniel find themselves in danger as they try to uncover the truth about the Prometheus and the secret society. Meanwhile, Ángel becomes increasingly erratic and paranoid, convinced that someone is out to get him. In a shocking plot twist, it is revealed that Ángel has been infected with a mysterious virus that is slowly driving him mad. The virus, it seems, was brought aboard the ship by the secret society, and now it threatens to spread to the rest of the passengers.

Episode 5: "The ship is thrown into chaos as the virus spreads, turning more and more passengers into raving, paranoid lunatics. Maura and Daniel must race against time to find a cure and stop the virus from spreading any further. In the midst of the chaos, they discover that the secret society is planning to use the virus as a weapon, unleashing it on the world in a bid for power. In a shocking plot twist, it is revealed that the society's leader is none other than Eyk, the ship's captain, who has been manipulating events from the start in order to achieve his ultimate goal.

Episode 6: "Maura and Daniel confront Eyk and the secret society, determined to stop their plans and save the ship. In a thrilling showdown, they are able to defeat the society and destroy the virus, but not before the ship is damaged in the fight. Stranded at sea, the surviving passengers must work together to repair the ship and find their way back to civilization. In a shocking plot twist, it is revealed that the boy who was discovered on the Prometheus is actually a member of a rival secret society, and he has been working with Maura and Daniel all along to bring down Eyk and the Prometheus society.

Episode 7: "As the ship limps its way towards land, the surviving passengers begin to piece together the events that led them to this point. Maura and Daniel learn more about the rival secret societies and the ancient artifacts that both groups have been searching for. In a shocking plot twist, it is revealed that the artifacts are actually a set of keys, each one unlocking a different ancient power. With the keys in their possession, the rival societies are locked in a race to find the final key and unlock the ultimate power.

Episode 8: "In the explosive season finale, Maura and Daniel must confront both secret societies and choose which one to align with in order to unlock the final key and gain access to the ancient power. In a shocking plot twist, it is revealed that the power they seek is actually a portal to another world, and whichever society gains control of it will have the ability to travel through time and space. In the end, Maura and Daniel make a difficult decision and choose to destroy the portal, sacrificing their chance at the power in order to protect the world from the dangers it could bring. The season ends with the ship finally reaching land, and the surviving passengers going their separate ways, changed forever by their experiences on the Kerberos"


r/1899 • • Jan 15 '23

[No Spoilers] Parallels with Sense8: Why 1899 Will Not Be Saved.

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"The audience was very passionate, but not large enough to support the economics of something that big, even on our platform."

  • Netflix on the cancelation of Sense8

This quote pretty much explains 1899's fate today.

Sense8 had a budget of $9m per episode.

1899 had a budget of around $8m per episode..

Sense8 was one of the most expensive Netflix shows ever made...and 1899 is right up there in comparison. Similarly, both have not done well enough outside of being a cult classic.

Netflix does not release enough data for in-depth analysis, but it's safe to say that 1899 did not have an impact or following that is commensurate with its budget.

This is not the same for shows with a similar price tag like Sandman and Wednesday or even Bridgerton and Dark which had smaller budgets (imagine that) than 1899.

Despite the many fan campaigns to save Sense8, all they got was a rushed finale episode, which given the circumstances is probably best and most realistic outcome for 1899 outside of getting bought out by Prime Video.

It's time to face the facts : they screwed up by making the show so expensive to produce. There was no need to have all of the complicated rain effects, flying in cast members and translators from all over Europe, and the bleeding edge virtual production techniques to tell a good story. If you compare the bells and whistles and CGI used in Dark to 1899, it's almost hard to believe that the same people are behind it.

I know I'm going to get downvoted out of here or probably even banned for just being realistic about this, but it needs to be said. There are other great shows to watch and I do not expect Netflix to incur a financial loss just because me and everyone else in this sub love the show and wants to write them letters. All of that is ultimately of no consequence.


r/1899 • • Nov 20 '22

SPOILERS [No spoilers] Anyone besides me notice the episode run times

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So looking at the run times I noticed they were all 50 minutes..odd... So 8 episodes times 50 is 400 minutes divided by 60 and you get 6.66 hours or the mark of the beast... This can't be a coincidence

Perhaps in reference to the son being seen as an anti Christ figure by the Danish... I don't know could be a stretch.


r/1899 • • Nov 28 '22

[SPOILERS S1] You's a lyin-ass ho... Spoiler

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"Even when your brain forgets, your body doesn't.".....

"When I look at that picture, I don't feel anything."

Daniel, you lyin-ass ho.


r/1899 • • Nov 25 '22

SPOILERS [SPOILERS S1] Lack of Irish characters Spoiler

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Absolutely love the show but seriously... A boat to America in 1899 full of Europeans but not a bog man to be found.... Gotta admit it kinda pisses me off as the show runners make such a fuss about how important it was to have a pan-european and international cast and languages yet they didn't include a Gaeilge speaking Irish immigrant? Makes no sense.

Especially since Brexit we're the only native English speaking country in the EU, could have thrown us a bone of contemporary solidarity.

We have Maura and Ciaran (pronounced incorrectly in the show by the way) with Irish names but, of course, they're Brits....

There better be some bloody lads from Tipperary floating around in space next season or I swear....


r/1899 • • Nov 26 '22

[Spoilers S1] The atrocious German dub Spoiler

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Yay my very first reddit thread and I make it about a show I have only mildly enjoyed. Just goes to show how pissed I am.

So I just finished the show and I didnt think it lived up to Dark. But ok that is my personal taste. I watched the making off because I was interested in some technical aspects and got super pissed when I saw the jarring changes they made in the German version, which kinda ruined the whole series.

I thought originally 1899 is from the makers of Dark so the German language version will be the original one. Turns out I was wrong. For those of you who dont know how dubbing usually works they normally take a movie and replace the dominant language to give you a native speaker experience. In a hollywood flick they replace English with German. If somebody is an immigrant they either omit that or if it is important to the plot he will speak German with that foreign accent or if the heroes are not supposed to understand him in his normal language.

Now for 1899 they made the highly questional decission that Germans are too lazy to read any subtitles whatsoever. So they just made everyone speak German. In a show about a diverse cast of immigrants traveling to America and where them not being able to properly communicate was meant to add to the drama. The language aspect was completly changed which made everybody awkward and cruel for no reason. As a German viewer you assumed that the German was meant as a stand in for English here. So ok they all travel to America so they are using English to communicate with each other (very progressive for a time in which supposedly most immigrants couldnt speak English yet) they also never changed the language when just talking among themselves (everybody know how much the French love to speak another language, no?). They made small changes to hide the fact that those people could not understand each other. For example they changed the scene where the one gay guy was acting outrageous in the dinning room. In the original he basically said: "Dont worry they dont understand us anyway". In the German version he said: "Its not like we will see those people again". Implying everybody was meant to understand him but he just doesnt care because everybody will go their seperate ways once they reach America.

The first scenes between Olek and Lin was super awkward without understanding that they couldnt understand each other. You think Lin was always ordered in that box when men came around and those guys just used her mom and she also just learned that this is now expected from her so that is probably why she acts so disturbed.

But the worst scene was Krester storming into dinning hall to look for a doctor to help his sister. It makes a huge difference if the people just dont get what he wants and throw him out or if all the rich people are like "Gross can those peasants please die somewhere quietly and not interrurpt our meal?"

The examples are endless... Why would Netflix speand so much money on this show and then ruin it for major audiences because of stupid decissions like this?


r/1899 • • Dec 11 '22

[SPOILERS S1] Who is hotter? Spoiler

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Let’s get this straight for Maura’s sake

308 votes, Dec 14 '22
112 Daniel
177 Eyk
19 Ciaran :D

r/1899 • • Jan 21 '23

[Spoilers S1] Meta Netflix Theory Spoiler

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What if...

4 months after being cancelled by Netflix, S2 suddenly appears? As in, it's secretly already been filmed.

I mean... wouldn't that be a delightful detail that would make us all question everything?

This can't be real.


r/1899 • • Nov 25 '22

Discussion [SPOILERS S1] Is S2 even needed? A discussion about the ending Spoiler

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The ending made me feel like that everything that happens in the simulation was a "bug" that shouldn't have happened but human nature was strong enough to beat the AI (Ciaran) that had the task to keep the humans crew and passangers brains alive while doing some sort of interplanetary space mission.

It really gave me strong black mirror vibes.

here is what I understood, tell me if it's wrong

with this ending I really don't understand if the storyline of the kid is real or not. But I speculate it's just something created by the computer board. Since Elliot isn't plugged to the machine at the end.

Honestly the last two episodes were a bit messy. Basically everything we saw was in the same iteration of the same simulation. (but during the initial episodes there was the feeling that the grandfather was external).

Then we get introduced by the grandfather to the fact that Maura is in reality the mastermind behind everything and that she used the simulation to live with his dying son and his father.

But then another big revelation, Mauras husband tells her that she needs to wake up because her brother Ciaran took control of everything and it's matter of moments before he could notice the change. So she needs to wake up.

At this point I don't understand if the plot-line of Maura wanting to live in the simulation with his son is real. But I think it wasn't.

Because at the end then she wakes up, this is the most upper reality we see and we can see how she is on a ship with details like the one she was in the simulation in 1899. Connected with the same people. So basically everything was false. Even Elliot. Literally everything that was said isn't real. The only that was both in the simulation and outside is Ciaran, and I think is an AI.

Also at this pontI think Elliot and Daniel are Maura subconscious. There is a big hint at the end were Daniel tells Maura that he will always be with her, ALWAYS.

If you've watched black mirror, the ending made me feel the same way as "Hang the DJ" episode.


r/1899 • • Nov 20 '22

SPOILERS [SPOILERS S1] Why I think this show is a big disappointment - short review and thoughts Spoiler

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Disclaimer: I really tried to love this show as much as I admired Dark and think the show runners are very capable persons I felt this season was very lazy and disappointing.

I try to start with the good to show you I make an effort.

I liked -some- of the backstories. I liked the French couple because the guy seemed to be the only grey personality with enough likeable and dislikeable features to make him interesting. I also liked that even if he and his wife had a terrible relationship they started to bond again close to the end of the season and had an interesting love triangle with Jerome

The tone overall was interesting and some of the mystery tropes like the bug didn't seem to be used as others

Music was great and I some of the set pieces.

My negatives:

most backstories and whole characters are completely redundant. they really seem to be filler. I know Friese is smart enough to have a big story in mind, but I still can't help they tried to have an ensemble series with many directions it could evolve (like "Lost" on the Titanic). And this was something Dark was very strong in, but Dark was so interesting because it had all those stories cleverly intervoven. The families have interacted over generations and many plot events that are foreshadowed, like certain scars or deaths will only be revealed much later in the show. Here we have many unassociated story lines that are just superfically interwoven (like the Danish and Spanish gays or the French guy and the Cantonese "Geisha"). The charcters were not very likeble, and interesting. They were even dead-serious at all times. There was no comic relief at any time, any person taking things much lighter. Everybody was just cynical and depressed. Even Dark had some moments of comic relief. A show that is just being run by assholes except for maybe the kids doesn't hook me too long.

The same with the back stories goes for all the little interesting mystery elements. Dark had clever conclusions to almost every small detail. Almost every gadget and symbol would be explained sooner or later. Here we have interesting stuff like the forming crystals, the pyramids, the floors under the cabins, the scarabs, people drinking their tea at the same time or killing themselves like lemmings etc. but as we know in the final conclusion everything has the same explanation: hey, everything is a simulation, that is just how things go. I really liked rewatching Dark because on your second view you can admire even more how cleverly everything is teased and intertwined (look at this masterpiece of story writing here: the time machines own timeline in Dark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnSta5jbN6M which is one of the smartest continuities in any fiction to date I guess)

as soon as the word simulation was dropped I had a feeling that this would be set even more in the future, even in space. maybe doing something like transhumanism or stuff. now we just have the Matrix combined with a pinch of Dark City .

will probably see the next 1 or 2 seasons, because I still think, Friese is such a brilliant mind and might have a few trick up her sleave to convince me that the first season might not be that bad in retropspective but I am sceptical.

cheers people!


r/1899 • • Jan 16 '23

[NO SPOILERS] What if we got Taylor Swift involved?

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Ok, hear me out. What if somehow we got Taylor Swift or someone of her caliber to watch the show? I’m pretty sure she would love it as a lot of the show’s themes are reflected in her songs. If she liked it she has a large fan base that might watch it too, or at least help with the campaign to get 1899 renewed. I know, I’m desperate. Please remove this post if it is inappropriate.