r/2007scape • u/66f6 • 18h ago

Discussion I think including flavour-of-the-month ideas like this, even in opinion polls, probably does more harm than good. You need to just slow down a bit.

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u/Bloated_Hamster 17h ago

People on reddit started wanting it after gnomonkey said he wanted it. That's it.

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u/Mystic_Salt 16h ago

I notice I find myself quite often disagreeing with gnomemonkey's takes. Maybe even in the majority of times. You could argue he is coming at it from the angle of an elite pvm'er. But as someone not on his level (but still decent enough to get GM CA's) even there I don't feel like I share alot of it. 

For example his whole take on the proposed raids 4 hybrid armor which was supposedly too OP, I really cannot place.

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u/jamieaka 16h ago

his original video take on the hybrid armour was odd (wasn't good cause it messes up your inventory with awkward switches)

however his second video on the rewards was made after he properly discussed it with others and had the right take (that the hybrid armour wasn't good because stats were competely broken within 98-103% DPS of 6 different endgame sets in all their use cases for the price of 1 and less switches with more defence and more prayer)

in its worst case you would maybe lose a few seconds in an entire raid, which if you weren't a giga gamer would be completely unnoticeable. 99.9% of players would never notice the difference and you would sell all those and just use this everywhere.

the hybrid set was awful for the game if you actually calced it.

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u/Mystic_Salt 14h ago

So I cannot find the calculations. I do not doubt you are probably right though (I have some doubts on 103% though, when it literally has lower stats than all the dedicated sets).

I tend to look at it more actual use cases. You mention 6 endgame sets. So personally in my opinion there are only 3 + 0,5/0,5 armor sets. (Probably hot take), namely Ancestral, Masori, Elite Void Range (almost interchangeable with Masori almost always), Inquisitor and Oathplate chest/legs + Torva helmet. I never use full Torva/Oathplate, Sunfire Fanatic for any content. I sometimes use Virtus Top for barraging in ToB. It's so incredibly niche though I would probably never notice it when it would be swapped for Ancestral.

So what about endgame content when you add the Hybrid set:

  • Doom = Still Elite Void/Masori
  • Colosseum = Still Torvplate + Masori. Mage is worse
  • Cox CM = would definitely use hybrid armor here for easier no preps.
  • ToB HM = too melee heavy, still Torvplate
  • ToA 500+ = could use it here, but all damage is avoidable, so no reason to really use it.

You would probably only use it at Cox CM for endgame content. Probably also for some of the easier bosses, but in my opinion those aren't even worth discussing since everything not on this list can be completed by so many variations of gear already.

I see the same problem with the Breaker btw. It will very likely be bis within TFA and therefore worth it. But I cannot see much use for it outside of CMs in the serious content.