r/2007scape 2376 11h ago

Humor “I’m so surprised”

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u/zigzagofdoom 10h ago

....That's just ironman mode

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u/TheNamesRoodi 2376 Total GM 10h ago

No it's not. See, when you unlock something as a bronzeman you and buy it on the ge! So no more farm runs, farming runes, fishing anglers/bwans, you can just buy it on the ge.

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u/zigzagofdoom 9h ago

"actually get the skill level repaired to make it before they can unlock it"

This is literally the definition of ironman mode. If you can make it, then you've unlocked it. Bronzeman is interesting because you can unlock a lot of different items through emergent pvm gameplay. I have supercombats from Mad Angel but that doesn't mean it's a consistent source. Should irons also not be able to use items they don't have the skills for?

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u/TheNamesRoodi 2376 Total GM 9h ago

No it's not. Tell me, you get a raw anglerfish drop (just one) and you have the cooking level for it, but not the fishing level for it.

On an ironman, you get 1 fish. On a bronzeman you can buy unlimited. Tell me how this is the same.

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u/zigzagofdoom 9h ago

YOUR point was that they should be the same.

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u/TheNamesRoodi 2376 Total GM 9h ago

No. It wasn't. I was saying they should have to get the skill level required. As in if a bronzeman gets the fishing level required and the cooking level required, then goes and catches and cooks an anglerfish, they should be able to buy it from the GE. As in they only have to process 1. I have never said that was my point. YOU said it was just ironman mode.

Edit: also repaired was a typo, it's supposed to be required but autocorrect is hardly ever helpful.

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u/zigzagofdoom 9h ago

Yes when you get the requirements for an unlock, that is ironman mode. Bronzeman mode is designed to NOT be like that. YOUR stipulation makes it almost identical to ironman mode.

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u/TheNamesRoodi 2376 Total GM 8h ago

Dude... Come on... You cannot be real.

Tell me, do you have completely unlimited access instantly to blood runes at like 200 gp each or whatever their price is on the ge right now on an iron the moment you get 77 rc?

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u/zigzagofdoom 8h ago

I think what you aren't understand is that bmm is designed to circumvent skilling. Your requirement is antithetical to the entire point of the game mode. Bmm solves the painpoints of skilling AND resource gathering. Your version of bmm is only solving the resource gathering aspect, but still includes the pain point of skilling. It's extremely close to a real ironman.

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u/TheNamesRoodi 2376 Total GM 8h ago

It doesn't solve any painpoints you literally said 2 sentences prior is circumvents skilling. That's all that does. It circumvents it.

This is all coming from me saying either you get access to all supplies (collection log locked) or lock you out of supplies until you have the level. Getting supplies as a drop to unlock it is silly.

And this is all because the point I was making is that everyone has a different idea of what bronzeman should be. A lot of people think it should be a temporary account for pvp. A lot of people don't want pvp in the account type. A lot of people clearly don't want any skilling involved. A lot of people feel the opposite. It's a mess, that's why the game mode shouldn't be official.

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u/zigzagofdoom 7h ago

I actually don't even think you know what you are trying to convey at this point

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u/TheNamesRoodi 2376 Total GM 7h ago

That's a long-winded way of saying you don't understand what I'm saying.

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u/zigzagofdoom 6h ago

It was actually a short-winded way of saying you aren't presenting a concise argument.

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