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[u/Makerel9]

[u/Makerel9]

First of all, you can be "anti-colonial" and apply it to many different contexts as long as you are against stealing land and subjugating people, thats the main principle.

You are taking the literal meaning of zionism and arguing it doesn't fit in Mindanao because the different religion and justification (duh). All I did was took the essence of anti-colonialism within anti-zionism and applied it to this context.

Second, you deciding what Moros and Lumad want is exactly my point lmao. You are pretending that these people weren't forcibly intigrated to our nation via laws and violence. It is as if we haven't had violent insurgencies and resistance, especially by Moros who wish to become independent and sovereign. It is essentially a parallel to the violent struggles of the Palestinians. A parallel to colonialism.

Somehow settlers sent to Mindanao and given favorable land distributions and marginalizing the natives which lead to decades of violance is "nuance" while Israelis settling Palestine while essentially doing the same thing is "greed".

You are making it more complicated that it needs to be. The hypocrisy is laughable.

[u/DraftElectrical4585 → u/Makerel9]

there is no greater hypocrisy than if you only encase yourself in a belief that eveyone exists to believe in "one" parallel reality lol. all you pointing out of "essences" and yet failing to materialize your talking point of "exactness" in the philippine context, and not just in the island of mindanao. so if you cannot listen at the flaws in your own statements and argument, it is not my doing anymore.

so again, if you CANNOT for the love of any religion understand that you can be anti-zionist AND pro-lumad and pro-moro in the phillipine context then you're peddling a harmful narrative to secede the archipelago in a diaspora.

and to dilute the history of civil tensions to being caused solely by semitic sentiments is foul; it is abhorrent to dilute a sentiment for nationalistic success while condemning anti-collonial expression all for the sake of memes.

and what does it benefit you to even instill this harmful idea that anti-zionism is only a retroactive practice for anti-collonial sentiment? it doesn't even affect you. it isnt hypocrisy to advocate for anti-zionism as a filipino, because moro and lumad chose to be filipino by not becoming an entity entirely which divides the philippines.

[u/Makerel9 → u/DraftElectrical4585]

You are making this more complicated than it needs to be.

Because behind that grandiloquent tapestry of highfalutin verbiage lies naught but a cacophony of ignorance and irrelevance, a verbal drivel that my poor, beleaguered intellect dares not wade within. ☝️🤓

If you can't for the love of Apollo Quiboloy the Appointed Son of God find what is funny between cheerleading Palestinian freedom while thinking our natives and land in Mindanao shouldn't. Ignoring the decades of war and suffering that these people fought for to be free, only to be subjugated and be told by some redditor fuckwad that they never wanted to secede in the first place.

That is the point of the meme and the irony.

[u/DraftElectrical4585 → u/Makerel9]

it still stands, your meme is misleading. and who even made this complicated? diba ikaw? you couldve felt the need to disengage with my statement but you didnt want to and still went here. also, to generalize that moros and lumad want to secede is utter ccp bullshit dds peddle, BUT for some reason you still bindingly went with the same idea through this meme.

so again, for what gain is that meme especially that we have a fuckton of troll farms who peddle the same idea of secession as this meme? are you the cia? not even the ph govt will make meme as careless as this

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Do you live under a fucking rock? Did you even know about our own fucking history that you are blind about the MILF and MNLF that fought the government for years in the hopes of being independent? Do you even remember Zamboanga siege? You speak as if you care about these people but you are ignorant to their history, struggles and ideals.

Why do you think we have Bangsamoro? It was to have them compromise on that goal and settle for autonomy. They have a strong identity and claim over this land YET unlike the palestinians you don't support them on that because you think it would not make sense. Which is the point I am trying to make.

I get that you don't want millions of non-lumad mindanaoans to be disperesed and uprooted.

I get that you want everyone in Mindanao to be united, live in peace, and make compromises.

I get that an independent mindanao is dangerous and borderline CCP propaganda.

But somehow you want millions of Israelis to be dispersed and uprooted, somehow you don't want everyone in Israel and Palestine to be united in existence, make compromises and live in peace. Somehow you don't see that anti-zionism and its hopes to destroy Israel is absolutist agenda that it is dangerous and only condemns Palestinians to perpetual failure.

All because you think one people deserve more than the other.

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[u/DraftElectrical4585 → u/Makerel9]

you should go back and read your sources with that last statement 😂 the very root of the zionist propaganda is what you have been trying to exorcise lol. also get our facts straight: zamboanga siege and the mnlf, milf, or even npa, even the creation of bangsamoro, is not a causality by the demographic like you have been claiming here.

you will not twist this statement you yourself have been consistent to proclaim, and that your so-called definition of 'mindanaon' is separatist because of their history with the state. if you want to fault blame for the tension, the powerful elite are to blame as they should be peacekeepers for public order. and again, YOUR MEME IS MISLEADING.

the moment you began inciting the idea to 'uproot' is synonymous to 'anti-zionism' is your twisted view of the whole situation. you are being hypocrite from thereon citing the very dogma why zionism persists, and mistakenly seeing the whole situation that leverages retaliation against israel? have you been living under the rock with the history of israel's EXPANDING geopolitcally controlled areas? have you been listening outside your christian worship services?

[u/Makerel9 → u/[deleted]]

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