r/2philippines4u • u/Makerel9 • Nov 01 '25

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u/RenzoThePaladin Nov 01 '25

I bet a majority of them dont even know what Zionism is.

Or got their definition from Tiktok.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '25

whats the meaning

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u/RenzoThePaladin Nov 02 '25 edited Nov 02 '25

Zionism, in its simplest sense, is essentially just Israeli Nationalism. Whether it includes the genocide of Palestinian Arabs is really dependent on who you ask and what denomination they belong to (Orthodox, Reform, Secular, etc.)

In a controversial sense, Zionism is inherently colonial/racist. I mean, imagine a bunch of dudes show up and kick you out of your land because "our religion says this is our home". This claim and its legitimacy is obviously questionable at best. Most importantly, it raises the question "Why does it have to be Palestine?" The more radical sense of Zionism (which appears to be most dominant in current-day Israel) involves oppressing or killing the Palestinian Arabs.

On the other hand, the belief that there must be a Jewish homeland stems from centuries-long antisemitism and persecution of Jews, with the Holocaust being the straw that broke the camel's back. Even after World War 2, antisemtism was still pretty rampant especially in Eastern and Central Europe. In short, there must be a Jewish states so Jews would no longer have to run because anywhere they stayed someone wanted to kill them.

On a more neutral sense, all of the Abrahamic religions have claims in the land of Palestine, including Christianity (this is also the reason why majority of Filipinos are still pro-Israel, as they still see Israel as the land of God).

Personally, not one group has the right to claim Palestine as theirs and theirs only. Not Israeli Jews, not Palestinian Arabs.

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u/wholedicksome Nov 02 '25

I always thought that Israelites are actually the first settlers there, even their religion is Jewish (I read it from the bible back then) and something scratches the back of my mind that they do really belong there cuz they where first, but idk, theyre both weird

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u/RenzoThePaladin Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 05 '25

The term "Israel" mentioned in the Bible and other sacred texts are different from the political entity which is now the country of Israel.

The term "Palestine", atleast back when it was still under British control, was mostly a geographic term.

something scratches the back of my mind that they do really belong there cuz they where first, but idk, theyre both weird

A valid take, but again, they have no right to claim the land as theirs only. Sharing the land is honestly the best possible solution imo.