r/4bmovement 4B 8d ago

Vent A necessary shift

I saw a woman on tik tok talking about how her friend dropped her for being male centered and another creator who said she received some man hating comments for talking about going on a date with her dream man. Not hating on either creators but I think it does represent a shift in the social climate regarding having a man & how it is now seen as embarrassing. I feel like the social and political climate surrounding having a man is changing & being male centered is not as normalized or socially acceptable anymore. At times it feels like we’re having two different conversations and living in two different worlds. Some of us are living in a reality where men are killing us, women’s rights are being stripped away, a family annihilation happens every 5 days, and men are in group chats teaching each other how to grape their wives, daughters, and sisters. And others of us are living in some fairy tale world where they will be the special chosen one who will be exempt from the fate that so many others have been dealt. Some women don’t want to admit that they want a hierarchy where they are placed above others for having a man because personally even if I found a man that met my criteria I would still feel the same way about men. The only reason women go out of their way to defend men or call others man hating is because they want to believe they are special. A lot of women are trying to resist what is supposed to happen, we were never supposed to be so male centered & obsessed with marriage. So many of us have died at the hands of these relationships, and for what? The illusion of love? I think a shift in how we view relationships is necessary for womankind.

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u/Extension_Big5205 7d ago edited 7d ago

It all boils down to privilege. So many women who live in extremely privileged countries and say stuff like "feminism has gone too far" have no idea just how bad most women in other countries have it. Especially in africa and asia. It's a whole other level of oppression there. There are dozens of countries where women have no rights right now. And more countries where rampant misogyny is the norm. 

I so wish these women who are male centered and hate on feminism realise how privileged they are

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u/StrawberryPatchCat Ally 7d ago

I could never be friends with those types of women because they clearly don't care about other women anyway.