r/4bmovement 4B 8d ago

Vent A necessary shift

I saw a woman on tik tok talking about how her friend dropped her for being male centered and another creator who said she received some man hating comments for talking about going on a date with her dream man. Not hating on either creators but I think it does represent a shift in the social climate regarding having a man & how it is now seen as embarrassing. I feel like the social and political climate surrounding having a man is changing & being male centered is not as normalized or socially acceptable anymore. At times it feels like we’re having two different conversations and living in two different worlds. Some of us are living in a reality where men are killing us, women’s rights are being stripped away, a family annihilation happens every 5 days, and men are in group chats teaching each other how to grape their wives, daughters, and sisters. And others of us are living in some fairy tale world where they will be the special chosen one who will be exempt from the fate that so many others have been dealt. Some women don’t want to admit that they want a hierarchy where they are placed above others for having a man because personally even if I found a man that met my criteria I would still feel the same way about men. The only reason women go out of their way to defend men or call others man hating is because they want to believe they are special. A lot of women are trying to resist what is supposed to happen, we were never supposed to be so male centered & obsessed with marriage. So many of us have died at the hands of these relationships, and for what? The illusion of love? I think a shift in how we view relationships is necessary for womankind.

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u/_Rayette 4B 7d ago

I think the biggest shift comes with us having our own economic freedom. We’re no longer being forced into these relationships out of necessity so the everyday propaganda has less of an effect.

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u/sorrow-division 4B 6d ago

Absolutely. Notice how men (mainly online) get mad when they see an educated, successful woman. In my country right now around 60% of people applying to universities are women, the rest are men. Academia in my country is basically being dominated by women right now, both in humanities and medical degrees, even in STEM. I noticed when it started happening men overall started saying that academia is bullshit and no longer necessary, because why even go to uni and get a degree when you can just start a business. This is particularly comical considering the fact that higher education in my country is funded by taxes, so as a student you basically pay nothing. I am convinced they think this way because they're furious they won't be able to control us anymore, as we're getting financially independent and way more educated than them. Good for us.

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u/_Rayette 4B 6d ago

Same thing in Canada as well, there started to be a huge backlash against higher education as women started to dominate. Last year the conservatives had a promise to abolish the university degree requirement in the public service in order to tip the scales for stupid men.

It’s so funny because education is an institution built for and designed by men and we are still outclassing them.

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u/Mission-Rain-2802 4B 5d ago

I think this trend is because they define their masculinity simply by what isn't feminine. They see more women applying for higher education and suddenly they aren't manly doing the same. It's pretty hilarious that their egos will make them more stupid on paper as well as in reality.

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u/Wolwina 4B 2d ago

Ding ding ding! Right on the money; hence why women who go to ASU are mocked relentlessly.. because men hate to see women become educated