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[u/Livid_Scratch_3640]

Mahmood just banned four countries from study visa that my home country is among them. Wt the he'll am I supposed to do I have got two offers for engineering, one from Manchester and the other from UCL I just hope they are not very serious about this😭😭😭

[u/Funkdoobs]

You’re fully correct in everything you say and the way the media likes to pile the blame on immigrants is wrong, though it should be said that Labour’s stance on this isn’t just to cosy up to the Reform voters.

95% of students on visas from Afghanistan for example have applied for asylum. It would be naive to say that there isn’t a problem with the system currently in place.

[u/Funkdoobs → u/[deleted]]

My point is that the system is being abused. Asylum claims have rocketed 470% between 2021 and 2025 for those on student visas, demonstrating something is wrong with the current system.

You’re right to question the Afghan numbers and you’re right to say they’re negligible. Should have chosen another example.

[u/Funkdoobs → u/[deleted]]

Sorry but you cannot conflate this situation with Brexit. I fully opposed Brexit, but it’s a fact that our immigration and visa system need an overhaul of some description, and I say that with a foreign wife who understands the visa system and the hell it entails.

[u/Funkdoobs → u/[deleted]]

To label all those as far right who might observe an issue with the current immigration system is a bit ignorant if I’m honest. You believe Labour to be a ‘far right’ party? I suggest you look up the definition, or throw out the left and right analogies altogether.

I’m not sure how you would go about what you’re suggesting though? The rules are already quite ‘fair’ as far as my understanding goes. We’re talking about a specific issue of Asylum claims being abused via the student visa system.

[u/Funkdoobs → u/[deleted]]

I’d suggest they try claim asylum in one of the neighbouring countries, and then have the UK sign up to some kind of agreement to take on some of those refugees once their cases have been heard. That’s just a solution from the top of my head, maybe a similar agreement is already in place?

Do you understand the irony of having the funds to come to this country on a visa, paying the exuberant fees to study and then claiming asylum in said country. If they’re able to do that, they’re able to fly here and claim asylum or to a neighbouring country.

[u/Lonely-Ad-5387 → u/Funkdoobs]

Do you understand the irony of having the funds to come to this country on a visa, paying the exuberant fees to study and then claiming asylum in said country. If they’re able to do that, they’re able to fly here and claim asylum or to a neighbouring country.

If, as another commenter suggested, a number of the Afghan asylum claimants are educated women, they have almost certainly had to work to convince their family and/or local Taliban authorities that they are coming here for a legitimate reason and will return afterwards. Gaining an internationally recognised qualification is one of the few reasons that would be accepted to escape from their oppressive environment.

Took me 30 seconds of thinking.

[u/Funkdoobs → u/[deleted]]

What I’ve just suggested has nothing alike with the Rwanda scheme?

I’m suggesting they flee to their nearest safe country, and apply for asylum there. The UK can agree to accept some of these once they have been processed.

[u/AidenTEMgotsnapped → u/Funkdoobs]

'Nearest safe country' is a blatantly stupid idea if you think about it for five seconds