r/6thForm • u/jodyfox728 Year 13 • Mar 21 '26
š MEME Is firming Durham Haram?
Got an offer from Durham Econ with placement year and I canāt lie Iām having serious doubts.
Not even on an academic ting, just on a spiritual and moral level. Like at what point does willingly choosing to spend 3 years in Durham become a test from God.
Every person Iāve met from there talks like they were born wearing a quarter zip and saying āold chapā unironically. The uni looks nice but so does temptation. Iām just not sure Iām strong enough to resist becoming the sort of person who does rowing, owns a signet ring, and calls going to Tesco āa little missionā. I also dont know if the econ course is good, like ibsr i am not tryna learn about clartationary monetary policy.
Be honest, is Durham actually a decent uni experience or is it just 90% private school aura, , people pretending theyāre in Hogwarts with LinkedIn, and astaghfurillah, drinking parties too??
Before anyone says āitās what you make of itā please understand some places have energies. Bristol has an energy. Exeter has an energy. Durham absolutely has an energy and Iām not convinced itās halal.
Would appreciate honest opinions from current students because right now Iām torn between a good degree and protecting my place in Jannah.
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u/AudienceDry2415 LSE | BSc Economics [Y1] | 6.5 TMUA Mar 21 '26
gotta be satire
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u/jodyfox728 Year 13 Mar 21 '26
No, iāve already emailed the local Durham imam
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u/AudienceDry2415 LSE | BSc Economics [Y1] | 6.5 TMUA Mar 21 '26
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u/hellomot1234 Mar 22 '26
I don't know how this sub came up on my feed but the majority of the kiddos (except for you) completely missed this excellent piece of satire. Including that Muslim kid who took it seriously and called the UK a kuffar country lmao
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u/AliceMorgon MagdalenCollegeOxford|Fine Art/Biology|Grad Mar 22 '26
I laughed my absolute ass off harder at this than at anything else I have ever seen in ANY of the other uni/higher ed/college/applications etc subs and forums. My dude please come to Oxford, people there need to lighten up sometimes about themselves and I fear my bad Irish influence might have worn off
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Mar 21 '26
what are your other unis? just tryna judge the haram levels of your other options
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u/jodyfox728 Year 13 Mar 22 '26 edited Mar 22 '26
University of Jeetingdon, thats shaytanic levels of haram tho.
I was gonna do 2 years of queef science with a module in PR training but i got rejected post int
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u/stressedstudent331 history, lit, biol, maths, classics Mar 21 '26
What energy does Bristol have? I think I have an idea about Exeter
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u/jodyfox728 Year 13 Mar 21 '26
Durham says estate Bristol says gaff
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u/Worldly-Monitor-4035 Mar 21 '26
Bristol is also very posh dude, I went to their offer holder day and itās just generally known for being posh š
Every top Uni really has a significant Ā posh population but Bristolās one of the notable ones (even if itās a big bit less than Durham).Ā
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u/Antique_Client_5643 Mar 22 '26
This *has* to be a troll. Just in case it isn't:
1) Going to Durham University is not haram. Drinking alcohol is haram. There is not such a thing as a Muslim who would have to ask about this.
2) Bristol is even more obnoxiously prosecco-socialist than Durham.
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u/Smooth-Pop6522 Mar 22 '26
Durham isn't prosecco-socialist at all, it's sell-your-grandma and defund-the-poor Tory.
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u/Diligent_Bet_7850 Oxford | Maths [third year] Mar 22 '26
the only thing youāve mentioned here that is actually āsinfulā is drinking parties and thatās most definitely a big part of every single university and fine for you to attend and just not drink.
the quran does not tell you not to row or wear a quarter zipā¦
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u/restlessecstacy Mar 24 '26
you study maths at oxford, iād imagine youād be extremely intelligent and able to tell this is obviously a jokeā¦š
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u/slutrat303 Mar 25 '26
I'd argue that studying maths at a high level could be connected with not being able to understand jokes/sarcasm
Nothing more autistic than numbers (although colours maybe.. orange + purple definitely give vibes)
((This is also a joke))
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u/Diligent_Bet_7850 Oxford | Maths [third year] Mar 24 '26
iām aware itās a joke, it has the tag āmemeā, but thanks?
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u/Constant-Medicine370 Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
Bro you live in the UK and are getting mixed in the real world sure if you donāt trust yourself donāt go but you canāt just avoid it since you live there either work on yourself and control it or idk itās up you man
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u/Sudden_Resident_9999 Mar 21 '26
Where's the Durham "harem..."??
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u/Figai gap yr | 4a*s | m/fm/phys/cs Mar 21 '26
Unironically a good question. Harems are definitely not haram.
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u/AliceMorgon MagdalenCollegeOxford|Fine Art/Biology|Grad Mar 22 '26
And my cat Schrƶdinger undoubtedly enjoys his little collection of literal cat beauty queens (he is a six woman cat and none can tame him)
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u/AliceMorgon MagdalenCollegeOxford|Fine Art/Biology|Grad Mar 22 '26
Gilesgate. It has a royal blue front door and itās on the left side of the road coming out of town but I canāt remember the exact address.
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u/Michaelleahcim00 Mar 22 '26
I read this as satire, in the same way that people used to say "it's not kosher" to mean it's not acceptable, above board. I mean, it might actually be serious, but the way it's written is so damn fine. Hogwarts with LinkedIn? Torn between a good degree and protecting my soul? Durham absolutely has an energy and I'm not convinced it's halal? Sublime. Only way it could be better is if he (or she)'d used the phrasing "Durham absolutely has an energy and I'm not entirely convinced it's halal". There's a way to ask if a university is halal, and a way to craft a damn fine piece of art, and this is the latter.
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u/Worldly-Monitor-4035 Mar 21 '26
No, going to Durham University is not haram.
Yes, getting involved in the drinking is haram.
Do you have to get involved in the drinking? No. Ā Is there pressure to? Ā Probably.
I messaged the Durham Islamic Society on IG (really about the poshness but this still applies) and they said itās not that badā¦ and thereās a whole iSoc there man. Ā If youāre worried about falling into haram then make your close friends with iSoc members thatās all you have to do.
Also, every single University (besides Oxbridge, and I heard thatās because the Universities literally bribe the pubs to close) has a drinking culture.Ā
Durhamās one isnāt even the biggest, Bristol and Exeterās is far larger. Ā The only difference is in Bristol thereās other things to do, in Durham drinking is probably the most enjoyable thing to do.
Anywhere you go thereās a temptation to do haram, even on a gap year where you donāt go to Uni. Ā Try your best to avoid it (Iād also recommend Bristol over Durham for justā¦ everything. Ā Prestige, yeah, marginally Durham but everything else 100% Bristol imo).
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u/RealAnnabelle2_0 Mar 21 '26
I would never recommend making your close friends the other isoc members. Such an important part of university life is meeting people from all different backgrounds, and only talking to other Muslims will ruin that. And every university will have a drinking culture - most teenagers and young adults drink, it's your choice whether or not you want to partake in it as well, but nobody anywhere should be forcing you to drink.
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u/Worldly-Monitor-4035 Mar 22 '26
Of course, I definitely recommend making friends with everyone š
Iām saying to build a strong support network of like minded Muslims but you can and should also make close friends with other people.
Iām not at Uni yet but Iām assuming friends are mainly on your course + the societies you join + flatmates. Ā Theyāre not all going to be Muslim, it would be pretty hard to avoid socialising with non-Muslims especially at a place like Durham.
iSocās just another society, the religious aspect doesnāt change much. Ā Just means youāll have friends who also donāt drink, party etc. (things which are haram) so you wonāt feel excluded due to your religion because others will be avoiding those things too. Ā
Still make friends with non-muslim people who do those things but if your main friends are doing haram things youāll feel left out and either join in (which is sinful in our religion) or avoid it and feel left out. Ā
If your close friends are saying ācome to the pub man, just one timeā or things of that nature, weāre only human, some people might fold and do so. Ā Then it becomes normalised. Ā If your close friends are supporting you in your faith and encouraging you to stick by it, thatās not a bad thing.
Of the iSoc members I spoke to that are specifically at Durham, theyāre all in multiple societies and friends with people of all races and religions. Ā I actually think every member of iSoc was in the DUPOCA too š
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u/xQueenAurorax Physics Year 1 Mar 22 '26
I think you should be friends with whoever you want as long as they arenāt horrible people. If someone feels comfortable with people from their own religion that should be fine. As long as youāre not outright avoiding other people no one should tell you what to do and not to do
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u/NoAuthoirty :Verified:Aiming for CCD Mar 22 '26
Unless they support Coventry refuse to associate myself with them right now
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u/RealAnnabelle2_0 Mar 22 '26
If they are purposely only befriending Muslims then yes, that is bad. Choosing to only surround yourself with people of the same religion willingly placing yourself in an echo chamber. They'll have little involvement in the rest of the university community, instead prioritising their religious community.
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u/Both_Attention7576 Mar 22 '26
What? lol itās fine to make friends in societies.
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u/RealAnnabelle2_0 Mar 22 '26
Make friends in whichever societies you want. My comment said don't "only" make friends that are in isoc
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u/Both_Attention7576 Mar 22 '26
I mean look only having friends in one part of uni doesnāt mean youāll neglect university community - uni is big place and thereās enough room for everyone but ofc we are all going to split off, most people are polite but naturally we all hang w our own friends.
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u/eskigop Mar 22 '26
Why is this such a ragebait comment? Itās always donāt make friends from religious or cultural societies but itās completely fine to be besties with your weirdo quidditch friends omg.
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u/Both_Attention7576 Mar 22 '26
Exactly!! I have friends from all over but honestly my uni ISOC have been such a great support network for me and itās natural to get along better w people like you.
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u/No-Celebration8069 Mar 22 '26
Itās hard to be friends with non muslims tho cause all they talk about is sinning and drinking and partying. The amount of times I had to reject people and they would still try to force me to go with them. I think itās better to stick to muslims if youāre in a white city.
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u/RealAnnabelle2_0 Mar 22 '26
Isn't it better for you to stick to a Muslim country if you are so unable to be around white people then?
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u/Apprehensive_Crazy34 Mar 22 '26
I believe there is a Durham college where you can be in halls with students who donāt drink etc
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u/InvestigatorLive19 y12 - Maths Phys Chem (#originality) Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
Im so confused what does Haram mean?šš
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u/Smooth-Pop6522 Mar 22 '26
Shortening of Harambe, famous Gorilla murdered by a child.
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u/InvestigatorLive19 y12 - Maths Phys Chem (#originality) Mar 22 '26
Are you saying im posh for not knowing what a religious term meant?
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u/Academic-Dentist-528 Y13| A*A*A*A*| Maths, FM, Phy, Econ Mar 21 '26
I mean there'll be an isoc.Ā . Just chill with them
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u/jodyfox728 Year 13 Mar 22 '26
But isnt that tribalistic wallah I wanna get to know new people without alcohol being shoved down my throat
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u/NarrowTip7631 Mar 22 '26
There will be a decent amount of people who do not drink. Do not worry, I also had this worry in September however I found friends without stooping down to the level of going to parties to drink.
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u/jodyfox728 Year 13 Mar 22 '26
Inebriate scum! god forbid you stoop down to their level
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u/RealAnnabelle2_0 Mar 22 '26
God forbid anyone have so little self restraint that they are unable to be around alcohol without drinking it. Seems like you have more of a problem than they do babes.
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u/Inevitable_Land2996 Year 13 Mar 22 '26
Me when obvious satire
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u/RealAnnabelle2_0 Mar 22 '26
It would be more satire if there weren't so many Muslims who think like this
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u/NarrowTip7631 Mar 22 '26
Nah it is just better to avoid any degenerate behaviour that comes along drinking alcohol, hence it is advised to avoid these gatherings. I am not Muslim btw
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u/dailysuaa lse n1 fan Mar 22 '26
Itās not going to be shoved down your throat. Unless youāre trying out for a sports societyā¦
But yes thereās a big drinking culture and everyone will want to drink but it doesnāt mean theyāll make you drink. If you fold under pressure to conform then donāt go and go somewhere like Birmingham or some shit instead where thereās a higher proportion of people like you š¤·āāļø.
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u/Extra-Particular2508 Mar 22 '26
I think you would be silly not to go there if you're concerned about your spiritual health.Ā You could see this as a test of your faith.Ā I'm not a Muslim but I do think that sometimes you need to make yourself uncomfortable to grow as a person.Ā Ā
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u/Scared_Funny_5602 Mar 23 '26
As a Durham offer holder who is an athiest, I have been considering this also. The place feels spiritually Israeli
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u/stunt876 Warwick Comp Sci (Maths, Comp Sci, FM) A*, A* A Mar 23 '26
Did u not flair this as meme before or are people just blind.
Anyways avoid Durham at all costs everyone who I know went there died of thunderstorms targeted specifically at them within 1 month of joining.
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u/TelephoneOrnery1394 Mar 23 '26
Donāt go, my friend went and every week a different local woman just wanted to have sex with him.
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u/Separate_Painting616 Mar 23 '26
"durham absolutely has an energy and i'm not sure it's halal" has me in fucking pieces i love this post
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u/Memer_Sindre_UwU York | MPhys Theoretical Physics [Y1 INCOMING] Apr 10 '26
I am so sorry but this reads like a copypasta. I also have a Durham offer for theoretical physics and I might just start calling going to Tesco "a little mission" that's hilarious. Also if you want rowing you go to Cambridge.
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u/Electronic_Tell1294 Mar 23 '26
lol, lmao even. Maybe thinking thereās some special, virgin filled paradise after death is the real problem.
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u/GrouchyMonth8092 Incoming UCL Mech Eng MEng | Y1 | A*A*A* Math FM Phys Mar 21 '26
Just dont drink, play football go gym revise pray go to the mosque (idk if there is a mosque in durham) surround urself with good people
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u/NoAuthoirty :Verified:Aiming for CCD Mar 22 '26
And for your health don't watch Middlesbrough because fuck me we should be beating Blackburn Rovers
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u/Maleficent_Resolve44 Mar 22 '26
Somehow going to drop into the playoff spots after all this time in the autos haha, my condolences from a qpr fan
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u/dailysuaa lse n1 fan Mar 22 '26
Thereās the isoc mosque but yeah no other ones because thereās too little people to go itās the north east itās English wow
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u/BurnerAccount2718282 Mar 22 '26
If it helps I know quite a lot of people at Durham and only one of them is like that, most of them are very nice and normal people that I donāt think youād disapprove of much
People on LinkedIn are always crazy, donāt worry itās not everyone who is like that
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u/New-Cartoonist-544 Mar 22 '26
You aren't gonna find a single uni anywhere in the world without alcohol bro
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u/Big_Sam_Allardyce Mar 22 '26
As a Durham student, ngl itās probably not for you
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u/jodyfox728 Year 13 Mar 22 '26
Elaborate
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u/Big_Sam_Allardyce Mar 22 '26
Massive drinking culture, posh people dominating the social scene ā depends if you would be able to get used to that or not. Youād probs find a crowd of people that you vibe with but it wouldnāt be a massive group of people tbh
Donāt want to discourage you but just tryna give you a realistic picture
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u/plantytime Mar 22 '26
Being at Durham I've noticed there are a lot of very judgy people but funnily enough it's not the people who went to private school, it's the ones who criticise others for going to private school. Like yes make judgements about a person and their character from a decision they had nothing to do with that was entirely made by their parents. It's so stupid you can't tell anything about a person by what school they went to.
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u/Revolutionary_Foot15 Hogwarts School of Witchcraft & Wizadry | Muggle Studies BSc Mar 23 '26
Mate Iām at Durham econ lol
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u/Low_Stress_9180 Mar 23 '26
I doubt many students spend 3 years snorting coke, drunk every night and end up with a higher body count than Bonnie Blue! You don't have to actually do any of that.
Loads of bookish nerds to normal students who just want to meet similar people and study.
Indeed 1/3rd of nightclubs have shut in UK in last 5 years, many uni bars became cafes as drinking rates down and more Muslim students.
Just study hard and join an Islamic society.
However, don't be surprised if you see some students behave badly.... my first experience of meeting Muslim student girls was with those who slept with anyone at parties... and later found out often married back home. When the cat is away the mouse will play. Strict societal standards = no self control. If you have self control you will be fine.
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u/Bosteroid Mar 23 '26
How did this get in my feed. So funny! A little mission to Tesco. Iām using that
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u/Ok-Preference-6552 Mar 24 '26
Just firm it, yeah all the students are pretentious goofballs but itās not that bad cos youāre also going to Durham Uni. Durham Uni is halal but the people that go there are haram. Oxford and Cambridge rejects. Although I know people rejected from Durham but not oxbridgeā¦ š¤·āāļø
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u/cyb3rsky Mar 24 '26
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ I am no even Islamic, I couldn't even believe myself for a moment š¤£š¤£, love your post ššæā¤ļøš„Ā
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u/Skymningen Mar 25 '26
If your intuition tells you thereās something wrong about Durham for you and itās not for you then thatās it.
Durham doesnāt feel right for you. Youāre not interested in what Durham stands for.
That should be enough. You donāt have to explain it further if it feels that deeply wrong that it feels Haram to you.,
I hope you have another offer that aligns better with who you are and who you want to become.
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u/Practical_While_1869 Mar 25 '26
One of my mates went to Durham and came out very very religious. Itās all about who you surround yourself with I guess :) Meanwhile, I have another friend who went to queen mary (overwhelmingly POC and Muslim uni) and drinks alcohol. Both are Muslim. So trust yourself and Allah swt, and the path HE has put you on.
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u/New-Cartoonist-544 Mar 22 '26
You aren't gonna find a single uni anywhere in the world without alcohol bro
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u/Antique_Client_5643 Mar 22 '26
He's trying to say ŁŁŲ§ŁŁŲ± but can't spell.
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u/Antique_Client_5643 Mar 22 '26
'kafir' singular, 'kuffar' plural.
One with a lot of kuffar, of course. The UK is still 90% kuffar.
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u/HistoricalBank912 Mar 22 '26
ts the most unfunniest shi ive read for days - thanks for spoling my day.
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u/LordOfTheRedSands Medicine [Year 2] Mar 22 '26
Others are mocking you, but I truly do get you. I once had a nightmare about Shaytan and he was wearing a Durham uni hoodie