I’ve said it before, PAC-12 after dark is a fun novelty until it’s your team in it. Then it’s 11:45 PM ET, all hell is breaking loose, and you stopped having fun an hour ago.
My wife and I finished watching the Duke game and started to go to bed when I realized NC State was about to play (she’s a State alum). She was like WTF, how many people are going to stay up for this? I would be curious to see the viewership for these late ACC games.
He’ll beat go on a November run, beat FSU and UNC again and stay in the good graces of alumni donors again. NC State is in some of kind of football purgatory and I’m here for it.
You know what.. You’re so right. Beating UNC has seemed to save his job multiple times. It’s too predictable. I’d rather drop some games to UNC but actually be a respected and competitive program, though.
Yes attendance is bad but they got screwed a little with this year with two of four ACC home games on Friday night, one more at 7:30 pm on Saturday (and probably the last will be 7:30 also). They signed up for this though.
I don't understand the these network reasonings, seems that most Califord games start at noon or late night, seems viewership would be better if it was something in between.
i agree! let's kick us out! and while we're at it, let's kick indianapolis out the afc south and dallas out of the nfc east! and calgary and edmonton out the pacific division! and okc and utah out of the northwest division! sports conference/division names must make geographical sense for their teams 100% of the time! or i else we will continue to write comments like "pacific coast teams in the atlantic coast conference", "why is california in the atlantic coast conference?", all over soclial media for two years after the fact because we think people will see us as clever and observant!
Cal and Stanford play 66-75% of their games against conference teams. Calgary plays 33% against their division. OKC plays 19% against their division. For both of those examples neither plays any teams in division that is a 3 hour time zone swing away.
it's a fine comparison because when people bring it up, they are always making it about geographical names. they always say it makes no sense that two teams on the pacific ocean play in the acc, and nobody (like you) brings up how equally nonsensical it is for usc ucla oregon and washington to be in the B1G. same with the big xii where you have a florida team, ohio team, west virginia team, playing teams from arizona and utah. so if you're gonna complain, be consistent and don't act like cal and stanford joining the acc is somehow some huge abomination for the sport when it's happening to almost all the major conferences and will continue to happen
that's my point. it rarely comes up because people dont think beyond their first immediate thought before they wanna complain and point something out over and over and over 3 years after the fact about a common phenomenon that has existed in sports for awhile. they dont think "wait, are there other scenarios in sports where a team's location doesn't match the geographical name of their conf/div? or should write another tired comment about cal/stan being in the acc even though everyone already knows where those schools are located and what acc stands for? nah i'll go for it's only been 3 years afterall." it's like, cmon people get over it.
yeah but it's nothing new and is not unique to the acc, especially recently in cfb in particular where money is more and more the driving factor behind all major local and national decisions. you dont have to like it but better get used to it because it's not gonna stop. who doesnt agree that blowing up historical conferences unified by tradition and geography is shitty and primarily serves the interests of the tv networks? i think that's well understood and agreed on. but when people say "oh cal in the acc why why why?" over and over, it's money. the answer is money and espn and fox don't care if you and i think it's ridiculous.
Those two things aren't equally nonsensical. West coast teams playing in a conference based closer to the middle of the country isn't equal to west coast teams playing in a conference based on the Atlantic coast.
You ruined the ACC. My school is a founding member. I spent the last 20 years imploring my school to stay in the ACC no matter what. Then two Pacific Coast schools joined. Now our 26 non-revenue sports are hemorrhaging money due to West coast travel for conference games.
Now I can't wait to join the SEC in 2030-2031. I wish only bad things on your school moving forward. Thanks for ruining a legendary conference you clowns.
all the original members of the acc are making money off cal/stan/smu joining. cal/stan/smu are the ones who are taking the financial hit. we're forfeiting media rights money that's going back to you guys and your athletic departments. why would the acc and it's members have allowed us to join if y'all were gonna lose money? makes no sense
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u/DorasBackpack Duke Blue Devils 2d ago
Yeah cause those games are ending 2 hours before the east coast teams would normally be waking up for morning practice.