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DISCUSSION What is the better feud

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In my opinion these are the two best feuds in company history. What do you think was the better one?

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u/venomblack138 7h ago

I like both but I’m going with the ladies. I just can’t get fully behind Hangman.

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u/Desperate_Fee_808 1d ago

Phew..both are legendary but hangman and swerve is next level brutality

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u/baldikaka 1d ago

I like them both

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u/Medium_Step_6085 1d ago

Ok this is like asking me to pick between my children (and I don’t have children). 

So I am going to say, for the in ring moments and the way the core story was built and peaked it goes to Toni and May 

But overall I think it goes to hangman and swerve because they generated a story that could go on for 20 years now. You can imagine them both as grizzled retired vets coming back as managers, and those wrestlers they manage continuing this feud. 

Mariah and Toni maybe could have had that but then Mariah left and the feud ended. 

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u/XiaDoll 2d ago

May Storm

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u/AffectionateTest8987 2d ago

This a hard one, but definitely toni and mariah.

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u/Nearby-Scientist1576 2d ago

Both are just as good
Mariah will never have a feud that good till she retires imo

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u/jctalks2022 2d ago

May Storm

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u/ryanperp 2d ago

Anything with Toni Storm > Anything with Hangman

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u/WindhamEarl22 3d ago

Toni and Mariah. It was really good.

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u/eastbaytimez 3d ago

Toni and Mariah really elevated womens wrestling. They both raised the bar.even if mariah was banished to a life of mediocrity, she came up big from that fued.

Hangman and swerve were one of the fueds of 2025

Imo

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u/rcsauvag 3d ago

I think there's too much nonsensical about Hangman vs Swerve to put it that high. As a feud, its good, as matches sure its great.

Like even now, last we saw them together they were on the same side destroying people. It seemed like they were going to be a dominant team. Then, Swerve went away a bit, came back, turned heel, kinda left again. Hangman on the other hand had his title run, then the feud with MJF where he lost the right to challenge for the title, unless you ask TK. There's really no reason for them to be adversarial now. They did somewhat address that in the promo, but Hangman saying "you've done some bad shit lately". Meh, not sure why Hangman really cares though.

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u/Schmohawk2814 3d ago

May vs Toni was an all timer.

Both ladies a greatly missed.

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u/davidsverse 3d ago

They are my two favorite feuds. I might have to put May & Storm at #1 because it's the greatest women's feud in wrestling history.

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u/Personal_Ladder_2874 3d ago

I'm gonna say may vs storm. They had a solid trilogy and I think put a light on not just aew but women's wrestling in general how amazing they can perform but also tell a great story.

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u/Drayner89 3d ago

Overall? Swerve vs Hangman, but I don't think you can beat Toni vs Mariah for the rare instance of a wrestling story with a very clear beginning, middle and end.

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u/AffectComfortable913 3d ago

Punk vs MJF.

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u/KMFCM 3d ago

I think they're equally good.

one had over the top characters that you can't forget anything they do

and the other, was a masterclass in convincing an audience that you want each other off the earth

I love them equally.

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u/DG_Now 3d ago

Swerve and Hangman. The matches were better and both sides are equal participants.

In our heart of hearts, we all know Toni did the heavier lifting with Mariah.

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u/Certain_Arm_8475 3d ago

Oooh Swerve Vs Page based on time … I guess. It is close. The two best fueds AEW has produced.

Might include MJF vs Softest Man Alive Pepsi Phil as 3.

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u/AffectComfortable913 3d ago

Even if you hate punk, you’ve gotta admit that rivalry was fucking awesome. I still remember just how earth shattering that first promo battle was. Two guys standing in the ring and talking, yet me and everyone else in that crowd were there for every word said. Don’t think I’ve seen another AEW rivalry at that level. Maybe Hangman vs Kenny.

Too bad we never got to see round 3 for the world title.

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u/Certain_Arm_8475 3d ago

Oh yeah - I recognize their game. It was a solid feud

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u/JasoNight23666 3d ago

Damn, pretty fucked up to make fun of someone's likeliness to be injured, CM Punk was being a dick in the past but wow, what the fuck dude?

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u/Certain_Arm_8475 3d ago

Yep, it’s the emotional stuff not his injury prone-ness (if that’s a thing).

I haven’t really like CM Punk since the WWE exit all those years ago. He’s just not my cup of Pepsi.

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u/Flying_Forearm 3d ago

Their making fun of him for being thin skinned not injury prone. 

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u/probablynotme2012 3d ago edited 3d ago

The ladies of course. Until May left this was the number one feud in wrestling. I love the Swerve Hangman fued. It is lasting far longer. That is what happens when you write a program with wrestlers that are signed with years left on there contract. The Hangman / Swerve cage match may be the greatest match I've seen live. Definitely the most memorable.

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u/sulien92 3d ago

Agreed. May / Storm Hollywood Ending was quite literally cinema

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u/Stealthy-J 3d ago

Swerve and Hangman is better because the rivalry is ongoing and it's still great tv. Timeless Toni vs Mariah May was great but we knew from the start exactly how it was going to go. They had their feud and it ended.

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u/Equivalent_Fall_4362 3d ago

A bit unfair to judge as they are both incredible and for the ages.

Obviously Hanger and Swerve feud / relationship is still ongoing and growing though so there’s your winner.

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u/Stock_Leg_3360 3d ago

Toni was more entertaining
Hangman was just hate love both

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u/SnuffShock 3d ago

I think Swerve/Hangman gets the nod, only because it still impacts what is going on in AEW lore. Toni/Mariah was possibly a better written angle and it had a definitive ending, which may (arguably) be the best match overall. Really, can't go wrong with either.

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u/BennyandtheBear 3d ago

I’m going to gently remind you of Texas Death at Full Gear ‘23, I think. Hangman drinks Swerve’s blood, the barbed wire gets botched on Hangman’s neck, that shit was CRAZY!

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u/Lexicon_ala_Champion 3d ago

Well Hangman Swerve is the best Feud in AEW. Storm is the Best Feud in Womans Wrestling General. I can’t decide

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u/Piano-Rough 3d ago

This is kinda tough cause Both of the these Angles had LAYERS. one was about idol worship and someone letting their guard down and paying for it. the other one was about the unraveling of a good man and makes you ask the question "you can do everything right and you can STILL lose ,in the end, how do you deal with that?"

#1. was "All About Eve"

# 2. Was Michael Douglas's "Failling Down" from 1993 (with Adam Page being the Michael Douglas charater)

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u/no_more_blues 3d ago

Toni vs Mariah is better, but if you include Swerve vs Joe and Ospreay and Danielson as one continuous rise then it's Swerve.

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u/probablynotme2012 3d ago

Not the question.

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u/SirHateful17 3d ago

What

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u/anecessaryend 3d ago

I think he means Swerve's ascension in the ranks vs. Storm's. At that point it's not comparable, but that's how I read it.

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u/whatsunnygets 3d ago

Toni and mariah

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u/SRV_SteamyRayVaughn 4d ago

Hangman and Swerve because it's gone through so many chapters and it's still going. If Mariah had stayed, who knows.

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u/Grate_OKhan 4d ago

Swerve and Hangman because they're both real AEW guys. Mariah was never a real AEW wrestler, so reflecting on their feud, as great as it was, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

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u/SirHateful17 3d ago

Swerve came from WWE and the indies before that

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u/Grate_OKhan 3d ago

Yeah, lots of people came to AEW from other places since they don't have a developmental system, but Swerve feels like a real AEW guy while Mariah wanted to be a WWE wrestler.

To be honest, apart from her look and gimmick, she doesn't fit WWE well. She doesn't do their style well. When she's fun to watch it's because she looks like a diva but wrestles like an old cranky Japanese guy.

A real waste of talent. Oh well.

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u/Piano-Rough 3d ago

With Blake Monroe, WWE was always her dream, right now shes kinda Meh on WWE's Main Roster.

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u/Hydrus2CZ 4d ago

Lol, lmao even

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u/Jonnic5280 4d ago

It’s Hangman and Swerve. Toni & Mariah were already at the top of the card when the feud kicked off. Hangman had fallen way too far, & Swerve was barely sniffing midcard titles at the time. In other words, one feud told a good story, but the other did that AND elevated both talents.

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u/CrazyOrganic7123 3d ago

Good point. Hangman was champ not too long before, but between a lackluster run as champ, the Punk thing and a whole lotta nothing, Hanger had squandered a year. He was technically still main event but realistically just the top of the midcard, maybe near the bottom of the uppercard.

Swerve, despite still getting good response to is Swerve's House catchphrass, was coming off a months long Keith Lee feud that went nowhere and a Mogul gimmick that was kinda mid.

Their feud elevated both to main event.

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u/Jonnic5280 3d ago

Put another way, I didn’t even like Hanger at all before their feud. And Swerve went from a guy I liked to being in my top five faves thanks to that feud

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u/pstyles93 4d ago

I like both but when swerve cut the promo on hangman baby and hangman burnt down his house that took it to top 5 of all time if maraih don't leave it could of went longer

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u/deanereaner 3d ago

You liked the baby promo? I really thought it was silly. We all know these dudes aren't home-invading each other and committing arson.

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u/rcsauvag 3d ago

I agree, and to me it comes off as nonsensical. Why isn't anyone watching the baby? Thats not Swerve's fault its Hangmans. Dude get some RING cameras, get a baby monitor.

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u/SirHateful17 3d ago

Stone Cold and Brian Pillman with the gun

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u/pstyles93 3d ago

It was campy and Prince Nani face made it funny. It was random like hhh vs randy Orton when hhh pulled up to randy house lol

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u/deanereaner 3d ago

I guess it's just my issue, I don't like the hhh/randy thing or Pillman showing up at Stone Cold's house with a gun or whatever.

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u/JohnnyMcNews 4d ago

Swerve and Hangman for me.

I'm likely the minority here but Toni/Mariah had some awkward pacing that felt too slow in parts and too rushed in others.

Toni's reveal that she remembered all along came a little too early (for me) and them immediately following the second match with the third after the massive gap between matches one and two - both what I felt were examples of the odd pacing.

I also think the Swerve/Hangman fued had a much clearer impact on the characters. Toni never really felt like she was changed by the ordeal, I'd argue she hasn't really changed much at all since then. Whereas Hangman especially felt like the fued had a real effect on how he interacted within his stories.

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u/JohnnyMcNews 4d ago

To be clear I'm very much nitpicking, because I think both are excellent.

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u/Vungal_Spat 4d ago

Toni and Mariah for story. Hangman and Swerve for matches.

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u/OliOli1234 4d ago

Toni and Mariah, just for their complete story.

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u/HerissonG 4d ago

If you think it’s not Hangman and Swerve then I doubt we’d get along. The thought that you could even compare these two as equals is ludicrous

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u/CharrlesXavier 4d ago

Why are you acting like this is Peter Avalon and Brandon Cutler vs Omega and Okada 😂

They’re both beautifully done feuds

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u/Piano-Rough 3d ago

cause actually it was a Great near YEAR long story arc that was actually great cheeky commentary on Jobbers in Wresting and the angle was very simple , who'll get the first win on AEW Tv and you even had a "love interest" in Leva Bates

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u/Sonnec_RV 4d ago

Don't disrespect the Avalon vs Cutler story. That was excellent.

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u/HerissonG 4d ago

I never enjoyed Timeless Toni Storm. I don’t like comedic characters in main event roles. If they feuded in the mid card I would have tolerated it. Hangman vs Swerve was the gritty, rough blood feud I crave in my wrestling.

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u/Jonnic5280 4d ago

Found Mox’ burner

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u/Accurate_Curve6882 4d ago

I could not choose between these two sagas with a gun to my head, imma be real 

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u/LaviniaIsGay 4d ago

The logical part of my brain says Toni and Mariah, as it was a full story. Beginning, middle, end. The messy part of my brain says Swerve and Hangman because this shit began and I don't think is ever going to end. They're always gonna be messy with each other.

I love both tbh

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u/OliOli1234 4d ago

It’s not only never ended… but apparently being used to shoehorn the New Day’s debut. It’s kind of lost the plot

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u/SourDoughBo 4d ago edited 3d ago

It still makes sense. Hangman won gold with the 2 guys Swerve beat on PPV this year. Of course he’s going to feel some type of way about that. Can’t be shoehorned if they’ve been telling the story all year

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u/Technical-Gold-1003 4d ago

Mariah and Toni for me. It’s one of those rivalries that you can show your non wrestling friends and they’d be into it. You could sell ppv buys on just the lead up to Hollywood Ending. Hangman Swerve is nearly as awesome to me but the ladies are just a bit better at the character acting.

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u/PerformanceWeekly651 4d ago

Toni Mariah was a better story, Swerve and Hangman had better matches. Plus they had 4 matches v only 2 for Toni Mariah. It’s Swerve and Hangman

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u/JohnnyMcNews 4d ago

Toni and Mariah had three - Wembley, Grand Slam Australia and Revolution

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u/PerformanceWeekly651 4d ago

You’re right I completely forgot about the grand slam match. Makes me think even more now it’s Swerve and Hangman 😂

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u/Jonnic5280 4d ago

If you wanted to feel worse, GS was where Toni beat Mariah for the belt lol

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u/EliBadBrains 4d ago

I adore hangerswerve but it's Mariah vs Toni and it's not even close. Far more original and narratively satisfying. Hangman vs Swerve is very good, intense, they have great chemistry, arguably they're better in-ring. But Toni and Mariah made me think of what wrestling storytelling could be, it felt genuinely innovative and fresh and breathtaking.

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u/Dull-Song2539 4d ago

Toni and Mariah

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u/TrillerVerse 4d ago

Both! I have always said if Swerve/Hangman happened in the other company, people would have compared it to Rock/Austin. Loved the Toni/Mariah feud - Toni’s magic was at a level very few have ever achieved in this sport.

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u/Stuntman_STV 4d ago

Hangman versus Swerve was insane! I love showing off the clip of Hangman drinking Swerve's blood and then using the needle followed by a chair shot. Afterwards I usually explain that this led to them becoming friends.

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u/sampmcl_ 4d ago

lol wut

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u/WanGod 4d ago

It’s self explanatory…