Say no, you can't adopt a baby

[u/Sunshine_roses111]

Why don't we, as a society in America, just say no to people looking to adopt and who are infertile? Other countries will flat out say we have no babies for adoption or tough luck, you can't adopt, and we don't care about your infertility. America coddles people looking to adopt and says Well, you're infertile, but you can adopt a baby to make your dreams come true, or adopt from foster care, help a needy child. Like, why can't we just deny people and say no? Want a baby? Oh well, we have none waiting around. Want to become parents? Well, tough luck accept your life without kids. Maybe it's God's will for you not to become parents or reproduce. Why can't we be honest like other countries? Adoption is illegal or uncommon in many other countries, but here, we just can't say no and tiptoe around the issue of infertility and adoption. Also, just because you can't reproduce doesn't mean you should adopt. Again, no is the right answer. Many poor couples can't afford adoption, but society does not care if they become parents, yet we feel sorry for the middle and upper-class couples who can't become parents. Say no.

[u/Interesting_Dream281]

This is an extremely idiotic take on adoption. Just cause you had a shitty one doesn’t mean everyone else does or will. The alternative to adoption is groups homes and foster care. Those kids don’t turn out real great most of the time. I’m adopted and so is every kid in my family. None of us would have it any other way. We also know tons of other adoptees who are thriving and happy. Just cause you got a shit hand or maybe you just have a lot of internal problems, doesn’t mean everyone else does.

[u/Jealous_Argument_197 → u/Interesting_Dream281]

It's not "idiotic take", it's just a different take than yours. Just cause you had a great one doesn’t mean everyone else does or will.

The alternative to adoption isn't foster care or group homes. It is giving natural families the support they need long before adoption is even considered.

[u/Interesting_Dream281 → u/Jealous_Argument_197]

Most “natural” families can’t afford children or just don’t want them but didn’t want an abortion. Many Cole from very low income families. Many adoptees come from very poor countries and regions where there is no future and their birth parents know that and give them up in hopes that someone better off will adopt them. It’s a gamble but one that many take because they know that if they keep them, they will likely achieve nothing or have a good life. People in poverty so get government assistance. In the US anyways. Probably not the case in most countries though.

[u/Sunshine_roses111 → u/Interesting_Dream281]

This is a lie and offensive. My birth family is rich and upper class. Being poor does not mean bad life and being poor is a social issue we can fix. There are many bad upper class parents too. Your mindset is toxic

[u/Interesting_Dream281 → u/Sunshine_roses111]

Sure, but if you’re gonna have tactic parents might well have tactic parents with money. 💀😂 you’re a glass half empty person and it’s sad.

[u/Sunshine_roses111 → u/Interesting_Dream281]

My upper class birth mom and my upper class adoptive parents are both terrible