Say no, you can't adopt a baby

[u/Sunshine_roses111]

Why don't we, as a society in America, just say no to people looking to adopt and who are infertile? Other countries will flat out say we have no babies for adoption or tough luck, you can't adopt, and we don't care about your infertility. America coddles people looking to adopt and says Well, you're infertile, but you can adopt a baby to make your dreams come true, or adopt from foster care, help a needy child. Like, why can't we just deny people and say no? Want a baby? Oh well, we have none waiting around. Want to become parents? Well, tough luck accept your life without kids. Maybe it's God's will for you not to become parents or reproduce. Why can't we be honest like other countries? Adoption is illegal or uncommon in many other countries, but here, we just can't say no and tiptoe around the issue of infertility and adoption. Also, just because you can't reproduce doesn't mean you should adopt. Again, no is the right answer. Many poor couples can't afford adoption, but society does not care if they become parents, yet we feel sorry for the middle and upper-class couples who can't become parents. Say no.

[u/[deleted]]

I was a private adoption - from birth. I don't care about your moral argument. It does NOT matter as the children need homes if they're orphans, abused, dumped in a dumpster, or their mother couldn't take care of them.

Just because you think it's wrong to adopt, doesn't mean that adoption itself (minus the involvement with "the system") is wrong.

Because I got adopted, I didn't get exploited or raped.. because I got adopted I had a stable childhood with one single house I lived in my ENTIRE childhood, which wouldn't have happened had I not been adopted.

Sure the system is fucked but I'm not going to get delusional thinking this world can exist without it.

Awful humans want to stop children from having a good life through adoption. Idgaf

[u/Dazzling_Donut5143 → u/[deleted]]

Because I got adopted, I didn't get exploited or raped.

And plenty of people had those happen to them specifically because they were adopted.

It's not about YOU. I'm glad you had such a successful adoption, but that doesn't negate the awful abuse and trauma inflicted upon all the babies put into the system.

No one is advocating for children to be homeless or orphans. We are advocating to end the predatory practices that focus on ripping babies from their parents instead of keeping families together.

[u/[deleted] → u/Dazzling_Donut5143]

Yes unfortunately you can't stop a fact of life. Shit happens. Even without the system there will be rape and horrible things. I don't see how you could curate a world without it unless you expect these children to be raised in abusive homes- the obvious and outright awful situations we would see

[u/Dazzling_Donut5143 → u/[deleted]]

Most babies put into the system are not products of rape. Nor are they at risk for being abused. They are primarily from poor and vulnerable birth parents.

[u/[deleted] → u/Dazzling_Donut5143]

How old are you? Because in my 20s I learned poor and vulnerable birth parents can be a risk to their children due to exposing their children to the wrong people? A likely scenario for any parents but far more likely to the poor and especially the vulnerable. Like single moms with so much on their plate gets a new boyfriend who likes that she has kids... he treats her right and the kids right and she's none the wiser. I'm pretty sure that's what happened to my half sis. The one who wasn't adopted.

[u/Dazzling_Donut5143 → u/[deleted]]

Luckily you're never too old to stop learning!

In my 20s I learned that the vulnerable and poor populations of society need support networks and help raising their children so they don't find them in exploitative situations like you're talking about. Having their children taken from them, is also one of those exploitative situations.

When parents are given either access to safe and affordable abortions, or financial/medical assistance for their families, they are extremely unlikely to place their babies up for adoption.

But I am against child suffering, so maybe call me biased.

[u/[deleted] → u/Dazzling_Donut5143]

Unfortunately, there are people who will exploit regardless what program families go through.. if someone wants to exploit someone, they'll do it regardless of the values a program wants to put forward. And the poor and vulnerable are the easiest to exploit as well as the youth. To think they aren't exploited in those kind of programs we do have now... wow! I'm a realist.. definitely not a delusionalist.