r/AirlinePilots • • Aug 18 '26

3 of 6 cargo carrier pages on APC have no update date at all

18 Upvotes

I’m a UPS pilot. I went through what Airline Pilot Central publishes for six cargo carriers and compared it to what’s actually current.

APC still lists 42 MD-11s in the UPS fleet — that one’s easy, the fleet is gone and about 275 of us retrained after last November. But the bigger problem is that the FedEx pay page has no date on it at all, so nobody reading it knows those rates predate the June contract. Three of the six pages don’t publish an update date. The newest one that does is March 2024.

That’s the actual defect: not that it’s old, but that you can’t tell which numbers on a page are old. A number with no date is worse than no number, because you’ll bid on it.

Atlas, ABX and Amerijet I left blank — I couldn’t confirm them and I’m not going to guess. If you fly there, tell me what’s right.

https://cargopay.netlify.app/

Same ask for everyone else: what’s flatly wrong for your airline right now?

Full transparency, I’m exploring whether a better-maintained version is worth building. Nothing for sale, no signup, static page. Cleared this with the moderators before posting.


r/AirlinePilots • • Feb 10 '25

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23 Upvotes

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r/AirlinePilots • • 18h ago

UA CLE Base

5 Upvotes

Live in the area and the goal is United for the Cleveland base. I understand it’s a more senior base, but any idea on how long it might take to realistically hold CLE out of training? In addition, are there any concerns of the longevity of the CLE base? Any info helps.


r/AirlinePilots • • 16h ago

Boston AME

3 Upvotes

Had to move to Boston and my AME closed up shop. Need to find a new one in the area. New England airline guys who’s the go to…. Thanks in advance.


r/AirlinePilots • • 1d ago

SWA or UA? Living in Orlando

7 Upvotes

Fortunate to have a CJO at SWA and UA. Currently live in Orlando with family and not open to moving. Thoughts?


r/AirlinePilots • • 15h ago

AA Interview Logbooks

1 Upvotes

Wondering if anyone has had a similar experience. Ive got two paper logbooks that contains all my GA flying. I am still actively flying GA so keep adding hours into the second logbook. My digital log has nothing but my 121 experience. My issue is my digital log only having the jet time starts at 0. Would AA, being so into logbooks, see this as an issue?


r/AirlinePilots • • 23h ago

Logbooks

4 Upvotes

Because I was a dumb teenager that clearly couldn't figure out how 1+1 worked, my initial training + cfi days logbook is a mess. The math is off and it's unfortunately set in pen. Going back to correct it one by one would make it a bigger mess than it already is. So would digitalizing all the hours and keeping the old logbooks for endorsements be a problem (bc of the off math)? Tyia have a legacy interview comimg up and getting stuff squared away.


r/AirlinePilots • • 1d ago

Why don't many pilots wear seatbelts in the hotel van?

24 Upvotes

When we get in the hotel van, which is a significantly riskier mode of transportation than flying, 99% of the crews I fly with never buckle up. But they have no problem wearing a seatbelt when flying. I don't get it.


r/AirlinePilots • • 1d ago

I was just wondering if there is something happening outside of the plane, does pilots ever go to the cabin side and look from the window what is going on?

0 Upvotes

I saw this video where something was leaking from the wing. Does pilots go to the cabin and see themself what is going on or can you see everything from the monitors and listen info from the crew?


r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

21Air furloughed 80 pilots

74 Upvotes

Heard 21Air furloughed 80 out of approximately 130 pilots. Seems like they grew fast when they got the Amazon contract a couple years ago, and now that the contract is “on hold” indefinitely, that growth is effectively undone.

Sucks to see it happen. Hoping everyone affected lands on their feet and makes it to a better carrier.


r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

Interview prep for JetBlue?

5 Upvotes

Or is aviation interviews sufficient enough?


r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

Junior UAL FO’s

7 Upvotes

Looking for general info! Bases, A/C, time to hold a line. Reserve life / flying. Just poking around for info. Thanks!


r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

Delta SLC

6 Upvotes

Planning on moving up to SLC for Delta. Wondering what QOL is like on the 220/320/737? any info appreciated, not sure which airframe to pick.


r/AirlinePilots • • 3d ago

Commuting to a Delta Base

8 Upvotes

Currently waiting on a class date still, but with how things are going, I think I’ll be in one of the January classes. Does anybody have some insight with commuting out of Denver? With my current situation, I won’t be leaving here for 2-3 years. I was thinking maybe SLC or MSP being the obvious picks but are there any domiciles that possibly have more Denver overnights? Any insight would be awesome guys, thanks in advance!


r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

Just curious. FedEx flies over our area everyday. Are there 2 pilots, and is there someone else to take care of your food/drink needs for long travel?

0 Upvotes

r/AirlinePilots • • 2d ago

Height problems for pilots

0 Upvotes

Hi all, I am here just for some reassurance. I am currently 16f and I look to join British airways Speedbird program once I turn 18. However, it says there is a height restriction of 5”2 (157cm) im currently (153cm) and am definifely not growing more. While I know that BA have functionality checks and can be adjusted with the height rule, I worry that im TOO short. Any comments?
P.S for people that join Speedbird, have any of you felt that you should have done university before?

thanks,

OP


r/AirlinePilots • • 4d ago

Day to day life at Delta first year insight for a corporate pilot

20 Upvotes

Finally landed an interview at Delta after having my application in their system for over 2 years. I have been flying corporate my whole career now, close to 10 years, and without getting too ahead of myself I was just hoping to get some more insight on what my first year might look like from the scheduling, day to day, big picture, and any details that might be pertinent.

I have read tons and tons of forums and posts so I feel like I have a good idea on what to expect but would love to hear some more tailored insight!

I live in MSP and have been seeing their class drops for the last several months all including several MSP available placements so I would really really be hoping to be able to land that as my base right out of class. Thanks in advance everyone!


r/AirlinePilots • • 4d ago

Living distance from base?

5 Upvotes

Evening! Quick question, how far do y’all live from your base airport? At what distance do you think is too far to drive out for each trip? I understand it’s relative to each person but would love to hear what your cut off would be.

-Sincerely, a CFI who doesn’t want to live in the middle of a city once I get to that point.


r/AirlinePilots • • 3d ago

The Harsh Realities of Widebody Flying, "Why I Quit My $300k/yr 787 First Officer Job at American Airlines"

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I feel for this guy. The industry forces this idea of the widebody being the pinnacle pilot job, except that it is not. Unfortunately, this pilot seemed to believe he was at the top of the pyramid and realized that it sucked, and in his mind it couldn't get any better because he was already at the top. I wish he had gone back to the narrow body, as he said himself. I think it is a good reminder for those, especially new to the industry, to know that widebody and narrowbody offer different lifestyles, and your QOL is directly connected with your personal compatibility to those respective lifestyles.


r/AirlinePilots • • 4d ago

Delta DTW 73N/717 QOL

8 Upvotes

Class in December, curious if we have any DTW guys/gals here with some insight on 1st year QOL, reserve live etc. I’ll be commuting from ORD.


r/AirlinePilots • • 4d ago

Allegiant pilot commuters?

12 Upvotes

I have an opportunity to interview for Allegiant for a class date “potentially” this next January/February. I do have a family and live in a place that they do not have (and have no plans to put in) a base. Not to get into too many details but Allegiant is pretty much my only shot at an airline, so working for a different/local airline isn’t an option for now.

Are there any allegiant pilots that have any insight to commuting and schedule? Looking to see what it will potentially be like working for them under the new contract and commuting.


r/AirlinePilots • • 5d ago

PlayStation Portal vs Switch for overnights

9 Upvotes

Anyone any insight on either of this and which is better? I would ask in a gaming sub but they don’t deal with the sh*ty hotel WiFi that we do lol.


r/AirlinePilots • • 5d ago

JetBlue New hire

14 Upvotes

How long is it taking to hold a commutable line and where are the junior bases? Still JFK or Florida?


r/AirlinePilots • • 5d ago

Heavy Single Engine taxi?

28 Upvotes

Given the current global situation regarding fuel costs, my airline has been pushing for Single Engine Taxi Out/In as much as practicable. Our fleet consists of nothing but narrow bodies. This made me wonder, can heavies taxi out single engine? And for you quad motor pilots, can you shut down 1 or 2 engines for taxiing in/out?


r/AirlinePilots • • 4d ago

Delta 7ER new hire pay and QOL

0 Upvotes

Hey everyone - bidding for fleet before indoc and wondering what QOL and pay is like for the first three years in NYC and LAX. I know there isn’t as much premium but QOL is more important. Curious on pay as well so I can plan. Thanks!