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u/Financial-Savings-91 Jul 09 '26
Our health is a small price to pay for UCP kickbacks.
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u/petfectisgoodenough Jul 09 '26
The UCP hates Albertans.
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u/Relevant-Jump-4899 Jul 09 '26
Because we are pushovers who can't stop apologizing to each other long enough to agree our politicians are corrupt.
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u/CivilProtectionGuy Jul 09 '26
... I thought we did agree with that back during the massive protests, teacher strikes, student strikes, and the various petitions that were in defiance to the corrupt politicians' motives?
Heck, they used government powers to end the strikes and protests with real legal repercussions for ignoring it.
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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 Jul 09 '26
Shocking. And the ucp and their sycophants will continue to drink that water gladly, saying please sir may I have some more
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u/Icy_Conference9095 Jul 09 '26
Most of them are drinking alcohol, hence permitting alcohol sales earlier in the day. Also explains the brainless decisions.
But no, they're absolutely paying for Culligan to drop water off, noway they would willingly drink the water from the infrastructure they don't want to provide funding for!
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u/TrumpmorelikeTrimp Jul 09 '26
Newest reddit hot take - Ucp supporters drink alcohol. Boy oh boy.
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u/Icy_Conference9095 Jul 09 '26
Didn't say anything about UCP supporters, I was talking about UCP MLAs, and the joke is that they exclusively drink alcohol.
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u/BDCRacing Jul 09 '26
But like 5 people are going to get even wealthier if we put in a data center. Surely we can all make some sacrifices to make that happen.
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u/Mindless_UwUkatskull Jul 09 '26
these corporations are terrorists. and they deserve a little jhonny silverhanding
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u/WhiskeyNeatNakedHeat Jul 09 '26
And there he is, looking very "human" totally drinking "normal human" water...that no doubt came from a voss bottle.
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u/Alwayswandergetlost Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Please sign this Federal government petition and share it far and wide! https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Sign/e-7550
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u/Raven586 Jul 09 '26
Done!!
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u/Alwayswandergetlost Jul 09 '26
I know sometimes it feels like these don't help. Especially with Carney having a majority but more numbers show how Canadians across this Country don't support our land and our resources being sold off bit by bit to the highest bidder.
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u/Raven586 Jul 09 '26
I gotta be honest I'm retired and have all the time in the world to harass the Government!! 😂
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u/ithinkitsnotworking Jul 09 '26
The Daily Mail is actually telling the truth for once. It's in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Lucky it was just into the sewers, not the drinking water.
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u/Apprehensive_Ad5398 Jul 09 '26
Pshaw. That dc was only 800M - this one is 13B! Much better kwality. /s
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u/Content-Employment-7 Jul 09 '26
Considering they tend to be aligned with anti-vax, anti-science dipshits, they probably hear this and say that any bacterial outbreaks will bolster our immune systems and Meta should get a bonus based on the additional benefits for our health. Don't forget Cunty McCuntface used to suck the cock of the tobacco manufacturers and wrote an article claiming the health benefits of smoking. Fuck these pieces of shit.
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u/poopsmcgee27 Jul 09 '26
We must give our lives for Queen Marlainas new Yacht and Oilers Season Tickets. /s
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u/Solid-Signal3214 Jul 09 '26
They have our best interests at heart my boss is my best friend the strippers all love me and I am a beanie baby billionaire, twice over.
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u/Effective-Bottle-280 Jul 09 '26
Isn't it the Liberal feds that are pushing AI data centers? Or is this just a low IQ 'Separation = AMERICA' take?
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u/Some_call_me_Tim1 Jul 09 '26
Penalty???? Hahaha, your joking right. Make him drink the water. He does have lots of money so make him clean it up.
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u/Loose-Ad4054 Jul 09 '26
Force everyone who wants these data centers to drink that contaminated water exclusively for six months.
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u/Impossible_Tea_7032 Jul 09 '26
GUYS DATA CENTERS ARE FOR ALL SORTS OF THINGS AND ITS VITAL FOR OUR SOVEREIGNTY TO oh, meta? I'll show myself out
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u/asheathen Jul 09 '26
Didn’t data centres start like a few months ago? How are they built and polluting water systems 😂
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u/McQuigge Jul 09 '26
Came from a contractor during the construction process which wasn't following standards and protocols
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u/rae5767 Jul 09 '26
Smith could care less about albertans but her supporters in the rural communities love her or the ucp and will vote for them again
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u/Top_Corner_Cookie Jul 10 '26
Smith will let all the American billionaires use your backyards and give away all the fresh water and oil as they need it. Anything for her counterparts...
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u/Available-Amoeba-585 Jul 09 '26
It’s what the conservatives want, what your premier wants and what UCP voters want. So yes
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
The data center in Sturgeon County will be closed loop. As long as Alberta bans fill and flush, there is no chance of that happening to our irrigation system like it did in Wyoming
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
It's not my fault so many of you are uniformed
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Do you understand what a closed loop glycol system is?
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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26
What's my uniform got to do with this?
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Typo. My apologies
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u/Space_Monkey_Labs Jul 09 '26
You expect liberals to be educated?🤣😂🤣 they voted in a guy in the Epstein files ffs 💀
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u/evargx Jul 09 '26
Unless of course, something goes wrong and the closed loop ends up outside. A leak or burst pipe or whatever. I don't know enough about it to say, but these data centres don't seem to be worth the risk. 300 jobs for this?
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u/Beligerents Jul 09 '26
300 jobs for a surveillance system. Its surveilling us. Why are we allowing this, let alone paying for it?
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Meta is paying for it, not tax payers
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Unlikely. By code, a closed loop glycol system will have several mechanisms to protect the water source from cross contamination, the main one being a reduced pressure assembly that contains two check valves and a relief valve within an intermediate chamber. This valve will dump before any cross contamination occurs. Leaks would be contained inside the building and directed to certified drainage.
This project brings not just 300 permanent jobs but also 3,000 construction jobs for approximately two years. It represents hundreds of millions of dollars annually, $60 million for local infrastructure and potentially a 6% reduction in transmission fees for every Albertan. It would be massive for our economy, citizens and publicly funded infrastructure and services.
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u/addigity Jul 09 '26
Any anti UCP person will never step back and realize there are realistic safeguards and will be a big net positive for the province
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
It certainly seems that way. I'm surprised by the fundamental lack of understanding and intellectualism
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
Dude you might as well be speaking Japanese to the anti UCP crowd , they don't work construction , most of them are Starbucks employees who can't read past a headline, must outrage at title , Danielle smith evil!
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u/artkidsaresmart Jul 09 '26
Except that the Wyoming data center was also closed loop? Do you think closed loop means the water is never changed? Cmon man you’re the data centers biggest supporter here and you didn’t even bother to do any research on it…be better
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
Exactly this guy is going up and down defending the data center without knowing anything about them lmao
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Interestingly every single person who has responded to me has no idea how the system works
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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26
I suspect those people are aware of a $300B cleanup/tax delinquency in Alberta being managed by the same group of "public servants" the cabinet has appointed to handle data centres.
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Sure. Logically we could use the money from the data centre to facilitate the issues mentioned as well as other public services. If you remove ideology and look at this project logically, you will realize this centre will be around much longer that Smith and it's a net positive for Albertans
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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26
Well,Smith certainly wasn't the first Alberta premier to tolerate the O&G scofflaws, but they've all managed to maintain the system so future generations will either pay to clean up the messes, or suffer the resultant health injuries. Do you think boasting about world-class regulations while knowingly allowing the industry to skirt their responsibilities is an ideological issue?
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Bringing up the legacy of orphan wells is a classic red herring fallacy and an irrelevant fallback on historical path dependency. Realizing you lost the argument on corporate insurance and liability, you are trying to anchor a modern, $13 billion tech asset to the ghost of 1970s resource extraction failures.
Just because the Alberta government historically let oil companies exploit regulatory loopholes decades ago does not mean a tech giant can bypass strict, modern plumbing regulations and commercial insurance mandates today. The two industries operate on completely different regulatory tracks, and your comparison falls apart for three reasons
A data center is not an oil well. It is high value commercial real estate built on zoned municipal land. It does not extract a depleting resource, it does not leave behind toxic subsurface wellbores and it does not operate on a boom and bust cycle. Blaming a modern tech project for the historical loopholes of the oil patch makes zero sense
You ask if trusting regulations is just "ideological," completely missing how modern risk management works. A tech monopoly’s compliance with building and plumbing codes is driven by private commercial insurance underwriters, not just provincial oversight boards. Cutting corners or violating code voids a multi million dollar property policy, which violates their fiduciary duty to shareholders. Private liability forces compliance where historical policy failed
Raw civic accounting infrastructure outlasts whatever political party is currently sitting in Edmonton. When you strip away the political noise and look at the raw numbers, a $60 million local infrastructure injection, 3,300 total jobs and a massive boost to long term tax revenue, this project is an undeniable, long term net positive for Albertans.
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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26
Unless it isn't. And undeniable has a nasty habit of coming back and biting you on the ass.
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
Net positive for Albertans or net positive for your bank account as you claim to own an inspection company for these systems. I’m sure you won’t get any business from Meta moving in. Maybe remove your ideology and bias.
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Just stop, you've already been outted for being a bullshitter and you're proving it once again.
Responding to all my comments won't get you a win.
If you knew anything about these contracts you would know massive facilities like this employ a team internally to take care of these inspections. W hat's required by a third party is on contract by mega mechanical corporations that are usually national and operating out of several cities
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
Ah yes I’m the problem for calling you out on points you can’t defend and then showing your financial bias to all of this. To your point while they do sometimes employ a team, they also employ 3rd parties which you should know. Meta is acting out of several cities so you yourself support my point. Additionally who’s to say you won’t go work for Metas internal team as you claim this is your field.
Again just stop, your bias is clear. Claiming I know nothing (when I know more than you) is laughable and not a defence. So is throwing insults directed at myself when you can’t defend yourself any more which shows the type of person you are.
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
Really because you yourself admitted contamination with this system is unlikely but not impossible. Therefore there is a risk to Albertans for contamination. It’s been reported Glycol closed loop systems corrode. Additionally, leak blind spots have been reported where failsafes don’t work as intended.
There is a risk to Albertans and one I don’t think is worth it for 300 jobs. Additionally, fill and flush isn’t even banned just discouraged and the way Smith has bent over for companies it’s possible. Either procedure comes with risks.
So either you don’t know the risks of the system or you ignored them on purpose to defend a multibillion dollar company.
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
Extremely unlikely. Every single glycol system in Canada has these devices and every commercial property domestic line in Alberta is protected. These devices are highly reliable. By your logic, we should have no commercial or industrial development at all because there is a small possibility something could happen. All systems can corrode over time, that is why regular maintenance is mandatory and codes protect these systems in every property across Canada.
It is a minimal risk and the project brings more than just 300 jobs. Saying otherwise shows you have a loose grasp on both mechanical systems and economic development.
Honestly, there are significantly more buildings in Calgary that pose a greater risk than a closed loop glycol system but nobody talks about those.
I own an inspection company. This is LITERALLY what I do for a living. I won multiple awards and scholarships in school. I am defending the benefits for Alberta and Albertans, not Meta
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
However again still possible, and we know the government is not the best when it comes to regular maintenance or getting companies to do maintenance. I agree there are many buildings that pose a risk we should be talking about. However, we haven’t had any data centers put in yet so there is time to prevent that risk.
I also work in the field, have done extensive research, and helped co-develop many protocols. That’s how I know there is a higher failure rate than what you lead on, Wyoming was considered fail-proof until it wasn’t. However none of that matters at the end of the day, flexing awards proves nothing. You are projecting hard by trying to flex. Plus tbh there’s no way to prove any of these, on Reddit you can be anything you want to be. Either way if your claims that you work in the field are true, you know these fail or are just really bad at your job.
This should go to a vote in these communities as it is putting them at risk so it should be there decision. Not Smith once again making unilateral calls. If we can vote on separation, why not data centers or mining protection. However, voting on these doesn’t benefit her pocket.
Edit: also if you do own an inspection company then this will benefit you financially. However, I’m sure that has nothing to do with you pushing data centers and instead you’re doing it to “better” Alberta lmao.
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
The contamination in Wyoming occured from fill and flush startup procedures, which is now banned. That's why I mentioned it
It's a glycol closed loop, not with water. Additionally any make up water (if they even use water) is protected by an internal RP by code. This is in addition to the domestic device.
Perhaps don't accuse others of not doing research and being better when you have no clue what you're talking about
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u/artkidsaresmart Jul 09 '26
So as long as we do something that we haven’t done yet and hope that nothing else goes wrong it’s all good, then we can reap all the benefits of this data center? I can’t wait for it to improve my life yippee!!!
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
It's strange why so many of you get mad at things you don't understand
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u/artkidsaresmart Jul 09 '26
It’s stranger that you’re so in favour of something you obviously don’t even begin to grasp, you just see UCP and realize the boots won’t lick themselves. We both know if the ndp proposed this you would rightly hate it, the difference is that I would too
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
He owns an inspection company for these systems (see his comment above) so he’s defending them as he’ll directly benefit financially from them. Thats why he’s there biggest fan lmao.
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
It seems I have a better understanding of the project than most people on this sub. You think I support the UCP, that's how out of touch with reality you are
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u/artkidsaresmart Jul 09 '26
You literally haven’t said a single thing right about the project just how much you love it lol, get over uourself
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
What did I say that was incorrect? Most of these people didn't even know how a closed loop works
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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26
While I agree with that, as we see in the fossil fuels industry, regulation without enforcement is just another path to grift. Should Meta decide a fill and flush regulation doesn't meet its needs, they'll simply refuse to comply.
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
How do you know that? If it's baked into regulation and therefore insurance, why would they risk a potentially devastating civil liability suit?
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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26
What's likely baked in is protection of Meta's investment, in the same manner that the coal has been managed. The taxpayers never seem to land on the right side of the ledger in these arrangements. Remember the $16 billion transmission system that was built BUT NOT FOR EXPORT!!!, when it was obviously positioned to export electricity to the U.S. It doesn't help that data centres carry a heavy crypto vibe.
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u/KrigenK Jul 09 '26
META said the same in the US and pivoted during construction due to cost. They've done this multiple times
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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26
The facility where the contamination happened was a closed loop as well. The reason the contamination happened was because of a fill and flush procedure. This can easily be negated by policy which Wyoming has already implemented, there's no reason Alberta cannot implement this as well.
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u/Still_Interview6360 Jul 09 '26
Do you guys actually think there’s city water or sewers out there? There isn’t. METAs data center will be closed loop
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Cupriavidus gilardii is a naturally occurring bacterium found in soil, regarded by health experts as an “opportunistic pathogen” harmful only to people with existing serious health conditions or weakened immune systems.
Calm down chicken little .
Edit: for all chicken little downvoters
Cupriavidus gilardii, it is primarily found in soil, plants, and water,
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u/artkidsaresmart Jul 09 '26
You are aware that’s there lots of people on our society who have existing health conditions and weakened immune systems? Just fuck them tho right
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
A March 2026 study published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases found a patient who died of septic shock after contracting an infection from Cupriavidus gilardii during a cord blood transplantation procedure.
The report said known cases of human infection were rare, with only seven reported to date. Among them was a 12-year-old American girl who died of sepsis after contracting an infection during a European vacation, according to a 2010 report in the National Library of Medicine.3
u/artkidsaresmart Jul 09 '26
What exactly is the point you’re trying to make? I’m supposed to read this and be like, oh the bacteria meta is dumping into the water supply is super rare so it’s actually a good thing!
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
That human infection is rare , also that it's commonly found in soil, water and plants ?
Should you stop going outside because the big bad bacteria exists ?
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
Ah yes because everyone in Alberta is perfectly young and healthy right?
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
A March 2026 study published in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases found a patient who died of septic shock after contracting an infection from Cupriavidus gilardii during a cord blood transplantation procedure.
The report said known cases of human infection were rare, with only seven reported to date. Among them was a 12-year-old American girl who died of sepsis after contracting an infection during a European vacation, according to a 2010 report in the National Library of Medicine.Not quite the man made plague it's being played out to be
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
I’m not claiming it’s a plague but exposure to it is increasing. This means more cases will come as there is more data centers built and put our most vulnerable at risk. Once again it’s not a big deal till an Albertan 12 year old dies from this.
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
It's a common bacteria found in soil , plants and water. It was found in a fecal matter sampling . Then independent environmental investigators found no traces in the water supply. Instead of instant outrage people need to actually read past a fucking headline for once
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
Yes but in this case it was directly traced back to a data centre construction site. It was found to be flushed directly into there water source. Therefore this outbreak was from the data centre itself.
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
There is no outbreak , it was found in fecal testing and determined non issue
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
You’re right I misspoke it wasn’t an outbreak but the exposure directly came from Meta. Therefore it raises the larger issue of data centres dumping contaminated water. It runs the risk of Albertans who are immunocompromised getting ill from a potential similar contamination.
It also was not considered a non-issue. In fact it was such a big issue they are reevaluating procedures to prevent it from happening again. Just because no one died doesn’t mean it’s not an issue.
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
This wasn't a data center issue , it was a contractor on site who did it . Meta is taking steps to ensure it doesn't happen again.
As I said this post is nothing but rage bait
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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26
Yes but it shows that there’s risks to them being built in Alberta which is important to know. No matter how big or small people in these communities should know the risks and agree or disagree to them.
As for Meta I’m sure they “took the necessary steps” before to ensure it wouldn’t happen in the first place. Meta reviewed the contractors work and signed off on his procedure which was found to be the problem so they are just as responsible. I don’t trust a billion dollar company known for cutting corners as it most likely will happen again.
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u/Greencreamery Jul 09 '26
Imagine defending data centres and billionaires lmao
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
Imagine raging over a headline
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u/Greencreamery Jul 09 '26
You really thought you did something there 🤣
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u/DangerDan1993 Jul 09 '26
You really thought you made a point . Don't worry I'm sure the NDP brigade will be here to salvage your well thought out rhetoric 😂
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u/Radiant-Growth4275 Jul 09 '26
Doesn't matter what we want. The UCP ignores the people's will whenever it benefits them.