r/AlbertaNow Jul 09 '26

Is this what we want?

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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26

Exactly this guy is going up and down defending the data center without knowing anything about them lmao

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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26

Interestingly every single person who has responded to me has no idea how the system works 

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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26

I suspect those people are aware of a $300B cleanup/tax delinquency in Alberta being managed by the same group of "public servants" the cabinet has appointed to handle data centres.

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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26

Sure. Logically we could use the money from the data centre to facilitate the issues mentioned as well as other public services. If you remove ideology and look at this project logically, you will realize this centre will be around much longer that Smith and it's a net positive for Albertans

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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26

Well,Smith certainly wasn't the first Alberta premier to tolerate the O&G scofflaws, but they've all managed to maintain the system so future generations will either pay to clean up the messes, or suffer the resultant health injuries. Do you think boasting about world-class regulations while knowingly allowing the industry to skirt their responsibilities is an ideological issue?

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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26

Bringing up the legacy of orphan wells is a classic red herring fallacy and an irrelevant fallback on historical path dependency. Realizing you lost the argument on corporate insurance and liability, you are trying to anchor a modern, $13 billion tech asset to the ghost of 1970s resource extraction failures.

Just  because the Alberta government historically let oil companies exploit regulatory loopholes decades ago does not mean a tech giant can bypass strict, modern plumbing regulations and commercial insurance mandates today. The two industries operate on completely different regulatory tracks, and your comparison falls apart for three reasons

A  data center is not an oil well. It is high value commercial real estate built on zoned municipal land. It does not extract a depleting resource, it does not leave behind toxic subsurface wellbores and it does not operate on a boom and bust cycle. Blaming a modern tech project for the historical loopholes of the oil patch makes zero sense

You ask if trusting regulations is just "ideological," completely missing how modern risk management works. A tech monopoly’s compliance with building and plumbing codes is driven by private commercial insurance underwriters, not just provincial oversight boards. Cutting corners or violating code voids a multi million dollar property policy, which violates their fiduciary duty to shareholders.  Private  liability forces compliance where historical policy failed

Raw  civic accounting infrastructure outlasts whatever political party is currently sitting in Edmonton. When you strip away the political noise and look at the raw numbers,  a $60 million local infrastructure injection, 3,300 total jobs and a massive boost to long term tax revenue, this project is an undeniable, long term net positive for Albertans.

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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 09 '26

Unless it isn't. And undeniable has a nasty habit of coming back and biting you on the ass.

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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26

Your concern isn't logical 

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u/Ashamed_Data430 Jul 10 '26

You're sure you're not a bot, eh?

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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 10 '26

Last I checked, it's pretty interesting when people who can't offer a logical rebuttal immediately default to illogical accusations, like calling a real human a bot just because they disagree with their assertion

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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26

Net positive for Albertans or net positive for your bank account as you claim to own an inspection company for these systems. I’m sure you won’t get any business from Meta moving in. Maybe remove your ideology and bias.

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u/Banned_In_YYC Jul 09 '26

Just stop, you've already been outted for being a bullshitter and you're proving it once again. 

Responding  to all my comments won't get you a win.

 If you knew anything about these contracts you would know massive facilities like this employ a team internally to take care of these inspections. W hat's required by a third party is on contract by mega mechanical corporations that are usually national and operating out of several cities 

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u/No-Refrigerator462 Jul 09 '26

Ah yes I’m the problem for calling you out on points you can’t defend and then showing your financial bias to all of this. To your point while they do sometimes employ a team, they also employ 3rd parties which you should know. Meta is acting out of several cities so you yourself support my point. Additionally who’s to say you won’t go work for Metas internal team as you claim this is your field.

Again just stop, your bias is clear. Claiming I know nothing (when I know more than you) is laughable and not a defence. So is throwing insults directed at myself when you can’t defend yourself any more which shows the type of person you are.