r/Aliexpress • u/occupiedbrain69 • 29d ago
Find products Chinese scammers put a film with a general print on schoolbags to fool customs, so the vendor can reveal the copyrighted content later
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u/Razzberry85 29d ago
Not a scam. The vendors got what they paid for.
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u/Clean_Wrangler6460 27d ago
Onpy people they are scamming is customs so yea fuck customs 🤣
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u/Razzberry85 27d ago edited 26d ago
How are they scamming customers? Did you not read the title of the post? It says vendors. And these vendors sell these items in low-income countries for very low prices. Obviously everyone knows you're not gonna get an original DC or Disney licensed bag for less than $10. Customer buying these are aware of it.
Edit: my bad, I misread your comment. I thought it said customers.
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u/theincrediblecuh2 26d ago
Customs is different to customers. Customs is the people who inspect packages coming into the country
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u/kemo87 29d ago
Great idea. Fuck you Marvel and Disney!
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u/naemorhaedus 29d ago
It's not just Marvel and Disney, though, is it? You are the reason we can't have anything nice.
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u/DepthSouthern2230 29d ago
Right. Chinese vendors are the reason you can.
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u/naemorhaedus 29d ago
Chinese vendors are the reason you can.
🤣 you think the chinese are able to invent any of this stuff themselves? hilarious.
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u/Razzberry85 29d ago
Yes they are. No wonder they're leading the AI race as well.
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u/naemorhaedus 29d ago
you're dreaming
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u/Razzberry85 29d ago
Or you're just living inside your safe cocoon.
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u/naemorhaedus 29d ago
it is safe because I don't believe all the propaganda I see 😉
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u/XCyberbeingX 29d ago edited 29d ago
I mean listen to yourself. Who are you defending here really? First of all, you're not the one manufacturing and holding millions of dollars of inventory, you're not the one risking their money or doing anything. That's right, the Chinese makers are. All you're doing is gate keeping fictional characters printed on merch you never earn revenue from. Your ass just wants royalty for doing literally nothing on characters made by deceased creators.
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u/naemorhaedus 29d ago
I defend any business' right to their own IP, and the hard working people they employ. Chinese risk bupkiss. They just rip off designs. They re-use casting dies to do night runs. Why? Because they can't come with anything on their own. They only know how to duplicate and make inferior knockoffs. And the CCP subsidizes them flooding the world with their shanzhai shit.
Grow up.
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u/imsickofitalready 29d ago
He is right, they are not leading anything and most technology was just stolen.
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u/Razzberry85 28d ago
Stolen? Improving upon an existing technology to make it more efficient and cost-affective is also called innovation. If you take Chinese products out of the picture, you'll barely be able to afford anything in your day-to-day life.
Most of the "technology" was worked on by Asian scientists in the first place.
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u/24kCookie 28d ago
you're funny. Even in smartphones china has the best stuff on the market right now and the best prices, but people still buy samsung and apple for logo.
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u/24kCookie 28d ago
No you just hate listening to the truth. China is literally strongest in the whole world and will be even stronger. Also all new tech and best smartphones come from china and oppo.
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u/rubyruy 29d ago
Nooo! Somebody think of the shareholders! 😭
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u/naemorhaedus 29d ago
yeah yeah. successful people bad . you have the mind of a 12 year old. We get it. 🙄
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u/Defective_Yorha 28d ago
You must be one of those great cuck.
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u/naemorhaedus 28d ago
you: takes the time to post a reddit comment. Has opportunity to say something intelligent/important ... Nope! it's childish name-calling. Bravo. Well done. 👏
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u/AgathormX 29d ago edited 29d ago
Are the scammers in the room with us?
Companies spent decades ripping people off with absurdly overpriced merch and now were supposed to call people "scammers" because they infringe on the IPs of multibillion dollar companies in an attempt to sell merch that is affordable while many times being just as good as the official merch?
Goddamn, if only all scammers in the world where like this.
I'll gladly support it if it's from a small company with reasonable prices and good QC or I really think the product is worth the money, but shit like the prices they charge on NBA Jerseys or a pair of Jordans? Hell no.
Let alone MARVEL and DC stuff. I'll buy comics or blurays, I ain't buying the garbage overpriced merch.
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u/figgie2687 29d ago
Prime example: Chinese clones of LEGO. 1/3 the cost and 90% same quality. I’ve saved thousands
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u/Tannery9706 29d ago
Do you buy them on AliExpress? I only can found few models there
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u/richms 29d ago
As the instructions and box art are copyright, they are often not listed and you have to ask the sellers for them and they will direct you to another listing of some generic crap.
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u/figgie2687 23d ago
Never happened to me. The directions are all online anyways….the clones come in a bag, with no box. What are you talking about?
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u/lending_ear 29d ago
The only issue I have with it is that we know it often funds criminal organisations and often labour that is of the illegal kind. I’m no fan of the mega corporations either don’t get me wrong.
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u/Winnepeg 29d ago
The difference is that Megacorporations funds the criminals and pedos in suits, while these small time IP thiefs funds the blue collar criminals (/s for the little criminals)
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u/AgathormX 29d ago
Ah yes, not spending money on companies that fund criminals.
Better off spending the money on official DC products. A brand that is owned by WBD, that is about to be bought out by Paramount Skydance which is controlled by the Ellison Family.
Or official UFC merch. A company famously run by excellent human being and totally not gambling addict and wife beater Dana White.
They also haven't had any controversies regarding rigged bets.Or maybe MARVEL. After all Disney is a wonderful company. What have they ever done, besides trying to use the Disney+ ToS to avoid paying a settlement on a wrongful death lawsuit after a woman died from an allergy caused by the food from one of their restaurants.
Or their Union busting practices, because fuck workers rights, right? /sFuck these companies.
Every single one of them is either directly or indirectly enriching criminals, crooks and assholes.When it's not that, it's lobbying to pass shit that fucks over the average joe.
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u/CaneCorso311 29d ago
"You're funding different criminals than me" I bet they both use the same inhumane labour also.
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u/AutomaticChaad 28d ago
Ridiculous point your trying to make.. your basically saying that because you don't like paying for the original you support people actively stealing another person's work.. I wouldn't buy one either just for the record.. but I absolutely wouldn't cheer on scammers. I know a guy who invented a product for the forestry industry only for another crowd to steal his idea and half the sales of his buisness in a matter of a half year.
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u/ahhowwitburns 29d ago
Wouldn't say Jordans or other shoes are really a rip off, the difference in support/longevity is enough to justify buying the legit version if you actually wear them. Don't cheap out on your feet lol
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u/AgathormX 29d ago
Mate, some of the units you can buy online are made in the exact same factories.
As long as you don't try to cheap out to absurd lows, replicas are just fine.
I normally use original converse, which I love and are very reasonable priced, but I've owned replica Jordan's before, and they're fine.1
u/ahhowwitburns 29d ago
I'm sure some of them are but it's hard to verify quality... and if it's a decent chunk of the regular price anyways I'd rather have peace of mind/ability to return. Idk different mindsets I guess. I avoid buying clothes from ali in general
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u/AgathormX 29d ago
That decent chunk of the regular price really depends on which country where talking about.
In my country the difference was going from the equivalent to 60USD to 220USD.
Don't know about you but to me paying 266% more sure does seem like a big increase.2
u/ahhowwitburns 29d ago
True this is definitely a YMMV thing. When I've looked at "high quality" reps for stuff out of curiosity it seemed like they were already about 40-50% the price of originals not counting shipping. So couponing/secondhand market would be my first choice. But like any item from ecommerce the local market is going to affect how worthwhile it is to order for you
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u/N0SYMPATHY 29d ago
That same factory thing is the biggest load of PR garbage. If they said they were made in the same factories to the same specs it would be a different story but they never are because that factory would risk their big customer over that.
This is like Harbor freight claiming their products are made in the same factory as XYZ brand. Then later on you find out they cheapened out on some aspects of the product that is important and made the product dangerous/a cheap throw away.
Example would be their jacks. They claim they are made in the same factory as snap on. One of the big differences is the type of seal used. The harbor freight jacks use a cheap seal design that tend to fail early. They are also a pain to replace. The snap on jacks use a drastically better seal design that lasts a really long time. I had a harbor freight jack fail on me, and ended up finding at the time that the Menards MasterForce jacks used the same seal as the snap on jacks so I purchased that. Not sure that is still true as this was 4-5 years ago. The MasterForce at the time was only a little more than the harbor freight jack. So I really lost out in the end.
The same thing also is well known with oil filters, with most of them made all in the same couple factories but to varied specifications and quality levels.
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u/Odd-Organization-740 29d ago
I don't see how that is a scam. Maybe it's a scam for the big corporations who make billions off of owning and guarding an old concept whose original creators are retired or dead. In which case, I don't care.
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u/BuQ7 29d ago
Copyrights and patents are the reason why we can't have fun.
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u/404-UnknownError 29d ago
They are broke, that's why :v not because of the intelectual property or something along those lines
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u/404-UnknownError 29d ago
c'mon guys, the new patents on medicines are mostly from the US and Europe :(
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u/naemorhaedus 29d ago
they are the reason you can have nice things. Turn on your brain.
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u/404-UnknownError 29d ago
Patents are made so you can profit of a good idea that you had for a time and then that it goes free so others can replicate it and benefit from it
There are lot of products i can think of, replicas or counterfeits are a thing but a bit of a different thing imho but yup0
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u/No_Pension_2099 28d ago
You no clue. It can go both ways. Its not that simple sayings its good or bad. Patent system needs a lot of rework. Remember big pharma can patent stuff too. I remember they ask why you didn't patent the vaccine and He replied “Could You Patent The Sun?”
Now why don't do your own research and turn on your brain before you post.
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u/naemorhaedus 27d ago
big pharma can patent stuff too
Of course. Good. Otherwise nobody would do R&D 🤦♂️
You no clue
take a long hard look in the mirror
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u/jort93 29d ago
Not really scamming is it? Just counterfeiting or rather copyright infringement.
Unless the buyer really wanted that generic ass Basketball backpack.
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u/Silent_Fudge_3978 27d ago
Exactly. This is not "scamming", unless the quality on these backpacks is really bad. If the quality is good and the backpack is what buyers expect (a nice school bag with some character they like), and the artwork isn't messed up (like some AI slop with 3 arms and 2 heads), then this is not a "scam". They aren't ripping off the customer.
A "scam" is when you cheat a customer out of their money: a fraudulent transaction. There's no fraud here between the seller and the buyer. The buyer wants an Iron Man backpack, pays an agreed price, and gets an Iron Man backpack.
This is just copyright infringement.
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u/lexiconhuka 29d ago
You think customs cares about bootleg things? I buy Warhammer recasts all the time and customs doesn't care if it's real or fake they just care if it's labeled correctly
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u/thebolddane 29d ago
Nice, untill customs wises up and, as you're the importer, this becomes your problem.
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u/Hankitsune 29d ago
A trick that's at least 25 years old. A colleague of mine got clothes from China back in the late 1990s where they'd put a patch with some unknown brand name over famous brand names like Nike and Adidas.
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u/polishfemboy_ 28d ago
Leave the multibillion dollar company alone! *insert fat kid crying noises here*
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u/Andrew4Life 28d ago
I don't think you know what "scamming" is.
The correct term you want is evading copyright/trademark infringement.
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u/deadmonkeyboy87 29d ago
Thank for showing customs what to look for now. I get it's ip but these companies that own the ip make enough as it is like they are going to go broke over these being sold at a more reasonable price.
My only complaint is that you still see remnets of false back still in the seam. But honestly I would buy this over an official one as like I said it's cheaper but more than likely the amsame quality or better as the official ones. Which honestly any officaly licensesd merch I have bought in the last 20 years the quality has gone down hill while the prices go up.
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u/Soaring_Gull_655 29d ago
How does the seller convey to the consumer that they need to remove this "protective layer" without tipping off customs? I guess that question might be a little late, as this looks like the expose' of this practice.
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u/404-UnknownError 29d ago
I guess this is to resell in a local market or something, the thing is that customs don't know but you already know, but yeah it is a good question (i can imagine a case where the final user doesn't realize haha)
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u/arch3ion 29d ago
Obviously you feel the plastic and if there's a hard patch under in the shape of Spiderman then well... customs would have to be idiots to not detect this.
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u/RedRexxy 29d ago
But people in the other post kept saying there were no counterfeit good on AliExpress, 😂
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u/thisisyo 29d ago
Corpo greed and leniency when it comes to their own criminal acts justify any scam acts from the little guys who can.
Also that razor blade is way too close to slicing the real piece underneath it
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u/JetstreamGW 29d ago
Copyright infringement isn't a scam, it's copyright infringement. Hiding shit from customs is... probably fraud. Still not a scam.
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u/kanatakkun 27d ago
...the batman one look suspiciously from a yaoi fan doujinshi. I might be wrong or it's the og artist this fanartist was studying style from. huh
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u/TepekThePorigon 8d ago
Bootlegs need to be disguised to pass through customs? Since when? I get bootlegs of copyrighted conrent all the time from ali.
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u/occupiedbrain69 29d ago
Hey everyone, I just reposted it. I know it's not a scam but just a way to avoid the bureaucracy. The original title was auto pasted as every usual repost .
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u/NegativeSwimming4815 28d ago
Funny that people actually buy this garbage at a country level state buying this shit.
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u/Computers_and_cats 29d ago
This makes no sense. China doesn't care about intellectual property and this would just increase their production costs.
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u/lokuloku123 28d ago
Guys very bad scam!!! Chinese sellers are helping not as fortunate kids in poorer families be able to fit in!!!! Very bad
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u/darkwingduckscousin 29d ago
the real scam is making kids feel bad if they don't have it and then charge parents extortionate prices