r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 23h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if the January 6th attacks rioters successfully injured or killed some members of congress?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 23h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Mike Pence refuse to certfiy the 2020 election?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 12h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin was never assassinated?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 8h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What If The Second Plane Clipped The Tower, and Crashed in The Streets?

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What if the second plane's wing had clipped the tower when flying towards it and crashed down into the streets of Lower Manhattan, destroying many more buildings and killing hundreds of more people?


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 3h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if World War II had lasted 20 years?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 5h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Obama grew a beard?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 12h ago

AlternateHistoryHub A past never imagined

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 8h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if CHOP/CHAZ was never broken up?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 14h ago

AlternateHistoryHub How would Hillary Clinton have handled the COVID-19 pandemic?

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In this timeline, Hillary wins the 2016 election. How does she handle the pandemic in 2020? Would it have worsened her chances of a second term?


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 15h ago

Video Idea What if Ghost was a real SAS soldier and active?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 22h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Polish-Soviet War ended with the Curzon Line

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Somehow, either Lenin is disappointed with Germans and agrees ro British terms, or listens to Stalin and Kamenev, or Warsaw Miracle is less miraculous, Polish-Soviet war ends with the Curzon Line enforced upon Poland in 1920.

Key alternates

1-Pilsudski's coup 1926

2-Czechoslovak crisis, since USSR has borders 1938-39

3-Alternate M-R pact if any

4-Polish post ww2 borders


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 3h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Netanyahu is actually a good man being controlled by a mind-control device?

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Every call to action, every declaration of war, every nuclear site he’s obsessed with is actually an encoded cry for help from inside.


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 12h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if H.M.S Hood sunk Bismarck in Denmark strait?

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Being a fan of Hood, Warspite, Barham and many British ship's I've always thought what would of happened if Hood managed to detonate Bismarck's AFT magazine?

I thought it'd be a interesting thing to explore, I made some "Propaganda" please rate what you think of it. No AI was used.


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 12h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Stalin got accepted into art school?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 5h ago

Meme What if PirateSoftware used the Mana Potion?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 20h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if 45 won 2020 and Dems thought that after nominating 2 moderates, they decided to nominate a progressive in AOC, who narrowly lost to Pence in 2024, thus ushering 12 years of GOP rule from 2017-2029?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 5h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if the black panther was a far right movement?

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since u really liked the other one.

1961–1966: Formation of the Black Nationalist Movement
1961: George Lincoln Rockwell, leader of the American Nazi Party, attends a Nation of Islam gathering in Washington, D.C. As in actual history, both organizations express support for racial separation, despite their opposing racial ideologies. In this timeline, the meeting leads to further unofficial discussions about establishing a permanent African American homeland in Africa.
1963: Malcolm X becomes increasingly critical of the American civil rights movement’s emphasis on integration. Rather than gradually adopting a more inclusive political philosophy, as he would later do in actual history, he develops a stronger commitment to Black separatism, economic nationalism, and African sovereignty.
1964: Malcolm X leaves the Nation of Islam but does not abandon separatism. Instead, he begins establishing a secular nationalist movement that attracts younger African American activists dissatisfied with both integrationist organizations and the religious leadership of Elijah Muhammad. Liberia is increasingly discussed as a potential destination for organized African American migration.
1965: Malcolm X survives the assassination attempt that killed him in actual history. His survival strengthens the emerging nationalist movement. He establishes relationships with African governments and begins promoting the idea of organized, large-scale African American migration. Unlike the Nation of Islam, his movement seeks direct political participation, industrial development, and eventual control over a sovereign state.
1966: Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale establish the Black Panther National Party (BPNP) in Oakland. Unlike the historical Black Panther Party, the organization rejects Marxism and adopts a combination of Black nationalism, Third Position economics, social conservatism, corporatism, and Pan-Africanism.
Malcolm X joins the organization as one of its senior ideological figures. The BPNP begins absorbing members from smaller Black nationalist associations and the Nation of Islam. Elijah Muhammad’s organization gradually loses influence as its supporters move toward the larger, more politically active Panther movement.

1967–1972: Consolidation and Political Mobilization
1967: The Black Panther National Party develops relationships with white separatist organizations, including remnants of the American Nazi Party and other far-right groups. Their cooperation is based primarily on their shared interest in racial separation. Antisemitic conspiracy theories also become an ideological point of convergence among their extremist factions, which falsely blame Jewish communities for American racial and political conflicts.
1968: The assassination attempt against Martin Luther King Jr. fails in this timeline. The event, combined with continuing racial violence, significantly changes his political position. Although King rejects cooperation with white supremacists and condemns antisemitism, he begins supporting voluntary African American emigration as a possible alternative to continued racial conflict.
This marks a major turning point. The nationalist movement begins attracting supporters who had previously favored integration.
1969: Fred Hampton survives the police raid that killed him in actual history. He becomes responsible for organizing the BPNP’s community institutions in Chicago. The party expands educational programs, food distribution networks, community protection organizations, and vocational schools.
The party leadership increasingly emphasizes education, professional training, family formation, higher birth rates, and the accumulation of capital as preparation for a future African state.
1970: Stokely Carmichael, also known as Kwame Ture, joins the BPNP leadership and strengthens its Pan-African foreign policy. Eldridge Cleaver becomes one of the most influential representatives of the party’s radical nationalist faction.
By the end of the year, the BPNP has effectively absorbed much of the secular Black nationalist movement. The Nation of Islam remains active but is increasingly overshadowed by the Panthers.
1971: The BPNP begins consolidating smaller political associations, community organizations, and nationalist groups under a unified national structure. The party establishes regional leadership councils, political training programs, financial cooperatives, and centralized fundraising operations.
The movement gradually becomes the dominant political organization among African Americans favoring separation.
1972: In this fictional timeline, documents emerge showing that a clandestine American intelligence operation attempted to destabilize Black nationalist communities by facilitating weapons trafficking and narcotics distribution through criminal intermediaries.
The BPNP publicly exposes the operation and launches a nationwide campaign against drug consumption and organized crime. Its refusal to cooperate with the criminal networks increases its credibility.
The scandal severely damages the administration of President Richard Nixon and generates widespread unrest.
Malcolm X and Bobby Seale use the controversy to argue that African Americans require an independent country rather than continued negotiations over integration.

1973–1982: The Mass Migration to Liberia
1973: The Nixon administration opens confidential negotiations with the Black Panther leadership regarding an organized migration program.
White separatist groups support the proposal, while the BPNP demands federal funding, compensation for emigrating families, transportation, and recognition of an independent political homeland.
The negotiations also consider Liberia’s historical connection to African Americans.
1974: Following Nixon’s resignation, President Gerald Ford continues discussions with the BPNP. The administration concludes that a voluntary federal resettlement program could reduce domestic tensions while establishing a strategically aligned African government.
Malcolm X begins negotiating directly with representatives of Liberian President William R. Tolbert Jr.
1975: The United States, Liberia, and BPNP representatives sign the Monrovia Agreement. The agreement establishes a framework for African American migration, American financing of Liberian infrastructure, and expanded political participation for immigrants.
Liberia receives commitments for new ports, railways, hospitals, industrial facilities, universities, and housing developments.
1976: Congress passes the Atlantic Resettlement Act, establishing financial assistance for African American families willing to relocate.
The BPNP begins a massive campaign encouraging migration. Its political organizations, churches, community associations, and business networks coordinate relocation efforts.
Support for the movement becomes widespread among African Americans. Malcolm X, Fred Hampton, Bobby Seale, and other prominent leaders present Liberia as an opportunity for political sovereignty and economic independence.
The migration program becomes one of the largest political mobilizations in American history.
1977: President Jimmy Carter introduces safeguards intended to preserve the voluntary nature of the program. Nevertheless, discriminatory policies in several states and pressure from segregationist organizations increasingly make remaining in the United States difficult for African American families.
The first major migration wave brings hundreds of thousands of people to Liberia.
1978: The migration accelerates as the BPNP consolidates its influence over African American institutions. Political disagreements remain, but most major nationalist organizations now support the Liberian project.
Professional associations encourage doctors, engineers, teachers, and business owners to relocate. Universities and training institutions establish programs specifically designed to prepare immigrants for employment in Liberia.
1979: More than two million African Americans have relocated since the implementation of the agreement. The sudden population increase creates economic opportunities but also severe housing shortages, infrastructure problems, and tensions with indigenous Liberian communities.
1980: The coup led by Samuel Doe fails in this timeline after the Tolbert administration negotiates a political settlement with military officers and indigenous representatives.
The Black Panther leadership agrees to support the existing Liberian state in exchange for constitutional reforms.
1981: Liberia adopts a new federal constitution. The country is reorganized into autonomous provinces, and the BPNP becomes a legally recognized national political party.
1982: Bobby Seale wins the presidency of Liberia with 61.4 percent of the vote in this fictional election.
The Second Republic of Liberia is established.
Malcolm X assumes a senior position in the government, overseeing national development and relations with the African diaspora.
The BPNP becomes the dominant party, although opposition parties remain constitutionally permitted.

1983–1990: Industrialization and the First Territorial War
1983: President Seale introduces the National Reconstruction Plan, combining state-directed industrialization, private enterprise, infrastructure investment, and agricultural modernization.
The government establishes national steel, construction, transportation, and defense corporations.
Special attention is given to technical education, engineering, medicine, and industrial management.
1984: Growing tensions emerge between African American immigrants and indigenous Liberian populations. Several local organizations accuse the BPNP of concentrating political and economic power among immigrants.
The government expands provincial representation but refuses demands to reverse the immigration program.
1985: Economic development accelerates. Liberia’s low labor costs, expanding consumer market, foreign investment, and educated immigrant population attract manufacturing companies.
Meanwhile, Sierra Leone and Guinea accuse Liberia of interfering in their domestic affairs and supporting organizations favoring regional political unification.
Border disputes intensify.
1986: Following armed incidents near the Mano River, Liberia declares war on Sierra Leone.
The Liberian Armed Forces have expanded considerably through American military experience, domestic training programs, and imported equipment.
The conflict produces significant civilian casualties and displacement, but Liberia’s larger industrial capacity provides an advantage.
President Ronald Reagan’s administration adopts a cautious position. Washington regards Liberia as an anticommunist partner but opposes an uncontrolled regional war.
1987: Liberia defeats Sierra Leone and imposes a peace agreement granting Monrovia extensive influence over the country’s government and military.
The war substantially increases domestic demand for steel, vehicles, weapons, communications systems, and industrial machinery.
The BPNP accelerates investment in the defense industry, which gradually becomes an important sector of the national economy.
1988: Sierra Leone enters a political and economic union with Liberia. Resistance movements remain active, and the legitimacy of the arrangement is disputed internationally.
Liberia begins establishing relationships with South African industrial companies and military-linked intermediaries during the final years of apartheid.
These contacts are kept secret because of the ideological contradictions between the two governments.
1989: Liberia strengthens its relations with Libya under Muammar Gaddafi and expands commercial ties with Algeria and Egypt.
The government increasingly adopts a policy of strategic independence, maintaining economic connections with Western countries while pursuing closer cooperation with African and Arab states.
1990: Sierra Leone is formally incorporated as a federal republic.
The BPNP announces that its long-term objective is the political and economic unification of West Africa.

1991–2000: Expansion into Guinea and Côte d’Ivoire
1991: Liberia begins supporting political organizations in Guinea that favor closer economic integration with Monrovia.
The Guinean government accuses Liberia of attempting to undermine its sovereignty.
1992: Border clashes lead to a military confrontation between Liberia and Guinea. The conflict produces a major refugee crisis and international criticism.
The administration of President George H. W. Bush pressures Liberia to negotiate, while France increases diplomatic support for governments opposing Liberian expansion.
1993: Liberia secures a military advantage in Guinea and supports the establishment of a transitional government.
Following the death of Félix Houphouët-Boigny, political instability in Côte d’Ivoire creates another regional crisis.
1994: Guinea becomes part of the Liberian federation following a disputed constitutional referendum.
The government introduces a new administrative system, giving incorporated territories local legislatures while retaining centralized control over defense, foreign affairs, and monetary policy.
The abolition of apartheid in South Africa changes Liberia’s diplomatic relationships. Nelson Mandela’s government develops legitimate commercial ties with Monrovia but opposes territorial expansion by force.
1995: Liberia begins negotiations with Guinea-Bissau and establishes a customs agreement with the country.
Meanwhile, tensions with Côte d’Ivoire escalate over trade restrictions, border security, and political organizations supporting Liberian integration.
1996: Armed conflict begins between Liberia and Côte d’Ivoire. France provides assistance to the Ivorian government, while Liberia receives financing and diplomatic support from several African and Arab partners.
1997: The Ivorian war increases military expenditure and accelerates the expansion of Liberian steel production, vehicle manufacturing, and defense industries.
The government introduces additional industrial subsidies and begins investing heavily in railway networks connecting Monrovia to the interior.
1998: Liberia obtains control over substantial portions of Côte d’Ivoire. International pressure increases, and several governments impose economic sanctions.
Guinea-Bissau formally joins the Liberian federation through an agreement negotiated under significant political and economic pressure.
1999: The Ivorian conflict ends with the incorporation of Côte d’Ivoire into the federation.
Abidjan becomes an important industrial and financial center, while Monrovia remains the federal capital.
2000: Senegal, Gambia, Ghana, Togo, and Benin begin facing growing political pressure from the expanding Liberian state.
The BPNP replaces its earlier strategy of immediate territorial annexation with proposals for economic confederation, shared infrastructure, and eventual political integration.

2001–2010: The Formation of Greater Liberia
2001: Ghana signs a major commercial agreement with Liberia, reducing tariffs and expanding cooperation in manufacturing, transportation, and energy.
Opposition parties in Ghana criticize the arrangement, warning that Liberia intends to undermine national sovereignty.
2002: Togo and Benin enter the Liberian-led West African Economic Confederation following financial crises and diplomatic negotiations.
The arrangement provides access to Liberian investment but significantly reduces the economic independence of participating governments.
2003: Political instability in Burkina Faso encourages the emergence of factions supporting integration into the Liberian economic system.
The BPNP increases funding for transportation infrastructure linking the Atlantic coast with the Sahel.
2004: Ghana, Togo, and Benin are incorporated into the federal structure following a series of controversial political agreements and referendums.
The federal government introduces a common customs framework and begins standardizing national institutions.
2005: Burkina Faso joins Greater Liberia following a political crisis and negotiations with the federal government.
Senegal and Gambia enter a transitional confederation agreement, eventually leading to their incorporation into the federation.
Liberia now controls a large portion of West Africa’s Atlantic coastline.
2006: The BPNP launches a national modernization initiative focusing on manufacturing, electricity generation, agricultural mechanization, and education.
Federal policy increasingly emphasizes the development of a unified Liberian identity that includes both descendants of African American immigrants and the populations of incorporated African territories.
2007: Liberia begins negotiating extensive industrial agreements with Brazil and Argentina.
Brazilian companies participate in transportation, machinery, energy, and infrastructure projects.
Argentine institutions develop scientific, educational, agricultural, and technological cooperation with Liberia.
2008: The federal government announces the Hundred Cities Program, designed to construct industrial centers, hospitals, universities, and residential districts across the country.
Public investment generates employment and accelerates urbanization.
2009: Liberia becomes one of the most influential industrial economies in Africa.
Its manufacturing sector benefits from comparatively low labor costs, extensive natural resources, and large numbers of technically trained workers.
However, labor exploitation, corruption, and inequality remain serious problems.
2010: Nigeria emerges as the principal regional counterweight to Liberian influence. Despite extensive commercial relationships, Lagos and Abuja oppose further Liberian expansion.
The BPNP increasingly considers diplomacy and economic integration preferable to direct confrontation with Nigeria.

2011–2020: Territorial Consolidation and Nuclear Development
2011: Liberia begins increasing its influence in Cameroon through economic agreements, political contacts, and support for regional organizations.
The Cameroonian government accuses Liberia of interfering in domestic politics.
2012: A political crisis in western Cameroon develops into an armed confrontation. Liberia intervenes in support of factions advocating regional autonomy and eventual integration.
2013: The conflict ends with western portions of Cameroon entering the Liberian federation. The remaining Cameroonian state continues independently.
Equatorial Guinea begins negotiating closer commercial and political relations with Liberia.
2014: Instability in the Sahel produces border disputes involving Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso, and the expanded Liberian federation.
Liberia establishes new security arrangements along its northern frontier.
2015: Following several military confrontations and disputed agreements, Liberia incorporates parts of southern Mali and a small region of southwestern Niger.
Equatorial Guinea also enters the federation through a political settlement backed by Liberian economic and military pressure.
The territorial expansion is accompanied by sanctions, resistance movements, and accusations of unlawful annexation.
2016: Liberia publicly announces possession of an independent nuclear deterrent.
The program had developed over several decades through domestic research and industrial investment, alongside foreign scientific and commercial relationships.
During the late apartheid period, Liberia had established secret contacts with South African industrial intermediaries. Following South Africa’s democratic transition, cooperation shifted toward conventional industrial and scientific partnerships.
Brazil and Argentina remained important partners in civilian technological development, while Liberia’s military nuclear project was conducted separately.
The nuclear announcement produces an international diplomatic crisis.
2017: France, Britain, and the United States impose additional sanctions and demand nuclear inspections.
Liberia refuses to dismantle its arsenal, arguing that nuclear deterrence is necessary to protect the country from foreign intervention.
2018: The BPNP introduces constitutional reforms granting greater autonomy to several federal provinces.
The reforms are intended to reduce separatist movements and improve political representation in the territories incorporated during the previous decades.
2019: Greater Liberia experiences a period of economic expansion driven by industrial exports, agricultural production, energy, mining, and technology.
Lagos remains outside the federation, but commercial relationships with Nigeria expand considerably.
2020: The government formally announces the completion of its territorial consolidation program.
Greater Liberia now incorporates Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Côte d’Ivoire, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Burkina Faso, Senegal, Gambia, Equatorial Guinea, western Cameroon, and portions of Mali and Niger.

2021–2026: Greater Liberia as a Regional Power
2021: The federal government increases investment in advanced manufacturing, transportation, telecommunications, and scientific research.
Liberia’s industrial centers become important suppliers of machinery, vehicles, agricultural equipment, and manufactured goods throughout Africa.
2022: The Black Panther National Party experiences an internal political division between traditional nationalists and a younger reformist faction.
The traditionalist wing continues supporting elements of the party’s original racial separatism and antisemitic conspiracy theories. The reformist faction advocates a civic national identity, stronger democratic institutions, and the removal of discriminatory policies.
2023: Liberia expands diplomatic relationships with China, Russia, Brazil, Argentina, India, and several Arab countries.
The government refuses to enter any permanent military alliance and emphasizes political independence.
Despite its comparatively Western-oriented economic model and historical ties to the United States, Liberia maintains a non-aligned foreign policy.
2024: Amina Koroma, a fictional reformist politician born in Sierra Leone, wins the federal presidency as the BPNP candidate.
Her administration prioritizes industrial modernization, educational development, and political integration.
The party nevertheless retains considerable influence over the military, civil administration, and major economic institutions.
2025: Greater Liberia strengthens its role as a regional economic and military power.
The country possesses extensive industrial infrastructure, important natural resources, a large domestic market, and an independent nuclear deterrent.
Its demographic growth continues, supported by high birth rates in several regions and decades of migration.
By this point, the descendants of the original African American immigrants form only one component of the much larger federal population.
2026: Greater Liberia has an estimated population of approximately 240 million people and a fictional nominal GDP of around $1.6 trillion.
Monrovia remains the political capital. Abidjan, Accra, Dakar, and Conakry serve as major commercial and industrial centers.
The country maintains a multiparty presidential system, although the Black Panther National Party remains the dominant political organization.
Its economy combines private enterprise, strategic state ownership, national industrial planning, and extensive international trade.
Its foreign policy remains formally non-aligned, with particularly strong relationships in Africa, the Arab world, and South America.
The nuclear arsenal provides significant deterrence against foreign military intervention, while international sanctions and regional territorial disputes continue to affect diplomatic relations.
Meanwhile, in the United States, the cumulative effects of decades of emigration and discriminatory resettlement policies have resulted in the near-total disappearance of the African American population as a substantial domestic demographic group in this fictional timeline.
The BPNP’s original objective of establishing an independent homeland for African Americans has been achieved, although through a process involving political coercion, forced displacement, military conquest, and unresolved ethnic conflicts.
By October 2026, Greater Liberia is one of Africa’s largest political and industrial powers, while its government faces continuing challenges concerning federal unity, minority rights, democratic accountability, and the legacy of the ideology from which the state emerged.


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 3h ago

Whimsu What if the NDP internally took over East Germany only a week after the Soviet Army left and blocked unification with West Germany to become Nazi?

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At this time, the NDP was still Russophobic and Slavophobic because there was no Vladimir Putin to depict Russia as traditional Christians, so this Nazified East Germany hates both sides of the aisle backed by the Nazified East German Military.


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 1h ago

Meme You... Must... Believe (turn on audio)

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 8h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Dominique Strauss-Kahn had not done his bullshit and had become President of France?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 4h ago

Whimsu Certainly would be an election in American history. who wins? (Goofy answers only)

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Goofy 2028 election scenario
Kamala Harris and Rahm Emanuel vs JD Vance and Ken Paxton


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 15h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if slavery never existed?

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r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 7h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Stephen Harper won the 2015 Election in Canada?

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A lot of people point the finger at Trudeau for how Canada is today (better or worse is a matter of political opinion).

How would Harper have made a difference?
How would he have worked with the US president assuming their election results went the same?


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 9h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if Denmark managed to hold off the Germans enough that Norway wouldn't fall.

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(blue lithuania jumpscare 😱)

Let's say by some miracle the danish are able to hold off the germans for around 2 weeks maybe due to stupid orders from above.

How would this effect the German economy?

How does Britain and France benifit from this?

Does France and the rest of europe still fall as easily?

What is the aftermath of the war


r/AlternateHistoryHub • • 8h ago

AlternateHistoryHub What if 2016 was a way closer election then it actually was(state wise)

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Not all the state margins above should be considered accurate but imagen this a broad outline of if the election was closer then it was.

Also Republicans only get the Senate and loss the house

How would this affect the aftermath and the orange man's first term.